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supersayianjim · 10-11-2018, 12:16 PM

holy shit, that is fkn mint!!! yes that front diff/subframe is a bitch to work around.

RVAE34 · 10-11-2018, 12:21 PM

Thanks! Took me like a year of daily searching to find it. Bought 3.5 years ago w 65k miles. Just rolled over 85k. I did the 87 pathfinder front end swap. Bought last NOS grill in country!

Looks like custom oil pick up and exhaust manifolds would be biggest challenge for the na z32 vg swap. Would look so good and perform so much better. But turbo ka would be easiest if I just bought a 4cyl junker as a base.

supersayianjim · 10-11-2018, 12:25 PM

yes now on the ka route, remember I had a 4 cylinder 5 speed the z24 trans fits the ka engine. iirc I think the v6 5 speed is different. if you want to make ur life much easier you should source a 4wd d22 5 speed ka motor as their oil pickup and pan is for 4x4. now those are hard to find in the junkyards, and I went with this 240sx motor is because it was free-99 after I sold the tranny it came with.

RVAE34 · 10-11-2018, 12:34 PM

Ha! What's funny is that I bought a supercharged VG Frontier manual 4x4 as a donor for a swap. At the time, I had too many projects going on and just sold the truck at a small loss. Really wish I hadn't now but what can you do.. I just love the look of the Z32 VG which is why I would really love to make it work. But in reality, it seems like a bit overly optimistic especially after spending so much money on the Z31.

Good tip on the KA D22!

supersayianjim · 10-11-2018, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVAE34

Ha! What's funny is that I bought a supercharged VG Frontier manual 4x4 as a donor for a swap. At the time, I had too many projects going on and just sold the truck at a small loss. Really wish I hadn't now but what can you do.. I just love the look of the Z32 VG which is why I would really love to make it work. But in reality, it seems like a bit overly optimistic especially after spending so much money on the Z31.

Good tip on the KA D22!

no problem, you CAN make it work on a d21, just not THAT d21. there are people putting rb engines in these, but they can only do it on 2wd ones.

RVAE34 · 10-12-2018, 11:09 AM

2 identical renders. One with trim and one without. I am leaning towards keeping the trim with these more accurate renders. Before, the original didn't have trim shown elsewhere nor the T tops. This is how the final car will look. I just won the JDM side markers on yahoo japan.

These also show a shortened rear bumper.

RVAE34 · 10-17-2018, 06:44 PM

Decided on the Haltech 2500 ECU since I am using a crank trigger wheel in addition to the cam sensor.

Trying to decide on an oil pump now and it's between an N1 R34 GTR pump with billet Spool gears, Nitto high flow with Nitto billet external oil drain or the Tomei with an external oil drain. Leaning towards the Nitto.

supersayianjim · 10-17-2018, 06:54 PM

pic of said nitto?

RVAE34 · 10-18-2018, 08:03 AM

You can google image search it. I am on my phone so can't post pics. It's a beast and priced accordingly but not sure it's necessary for my build.

RVAE34 · 10-18-2018, 10:50 AM

Decided on the N1 pump with Spool gears.

supersayianjim · 10-18-2018, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVAE34

Decided on the N1 pump with Spool gears.

the cheaper/proven route.

supersayianjim · 10-18-2018, 04:36 PM

is that collar extended?

RVAE34 · 10-18-2018, 05:18 PM

Yeah, I have the Nitto stroker crank.

RVAE34 · 10-22-2018, 01:52 PM

Exterior body work is almost done. I ordered the Haltech 2500 stand alone ECU and the R34 N1 oil pump with the upgraded Spool gears.

RVAE34 · 10-26-2018, 08:09 PM

Machinist is currently working on the engine this eve and said the piston mold should be done tomorrow or Sunday.

Stopped by the body shop to drop off some parts and took some photos of my own. It looks fantastic! The next updates should be good stuff!

BryanS14 · 10-29-2018, 08:14 AM

Looks awesome. Jealous of such a straight body to start with.

RVAE34 · 11-01-2018, 07:06 PM

Thanks!

CP overnighted new mold kits to my machinist so hoping to pick the mold up this weekend. The shelf life is pretty short apparently.

Body guy is priming the car tomorrow!

RVAE34 · 11-02-2018, 03:39 PM

Correct, RB combustion chambers are far from ideal which is why my machinist is doing so much work to my head.

The car isn't primed yet. He was trying to wrap up another car that's just about done. I will have primed pics next week.

Piston mold is done and ready to send off to CP. He finished doing the port and polish on the intake manifold to match the head and over bored RB26 ITB's. Lastly, I got the N1 R34 GTR oil pump, Spool gears and the Haltech 2500 ECU. Today I also ordered Tomei adjustable cam gears.

RVAE34 · 11-03-2018, 02:22 PM

Fenders were rolled and he pushed them out 3mm for extra tire clearance while keeping the flat edge! Primer is tomorrow!

PoorMans180SX · 11-04-2018, 08:08 PM

This thing looks extremely well done man. Good choices on the Feal suspension and the s-chassis subframe swap.

RVAE34 · 11-05-2018, 11:15 AM

Thank you!

Epoxy and filler prime.

RVAE34 · 11-08-2018, 02:49 PM

Custom pistons ordered from CP. 12:1 compression, oversized with rings and wrist pins. I paid the extra for 2-3 week expedited delivery and to have each piston completely ceramic coated to reduce friction and heat. Can't wait!

bardabe · 11-08-2018, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVAE34

Custom pistons ordered from CP. 12:1 compression, oversized with rings and wrist pins. I paid the extra for 2-3 week expedited delivery and to have each piston completely ceramic coated to reduce friction and heat. Can't wait!

have you ever experienced WPC treatment? or heard of it?

RVAE34 · 11-08-2018, 06:53 PM

I have not and although I said ceramic coated, it is possible CP will suggest some other coating. I just opted to have the dome and side skirts coated in whatever they suggest. I want to let them do it because they input the thickness of material into the overall size of the custom pistons apparently.

RVAE34 · 11-08-2018, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bardabe

have you ever experienced WPC treatment? or heard of it?

Just read about it. Very cool stuff and just so happens that CP's site says they offer it as a treatment so I will look into the pricing tomorrow.

bardabe · 11-08-2018, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVAE34

Just read about it. Very cool stuff and just so happens that CP's site says they offer it as a treatment so I will look into the pricing tomorrow.

yeah WPC is the best stuff i've ever used. doesn't rub off like coating will over time. good stuff, I'd highly suggest it.

RVAE34 · 11-16-2018, 05:24 AM

In talking with CP, I am going ceramic dome and WPC on the rest of the piston.

Engine bay shaving well under way.

Good before and after of the passenger side firewall.

RVAE34 · 11-16-2018, 03:08 PM

RVAE34 · 11-27-2018, 08:23 AM

Thanks, gentlemen!!

Machinist orders shims for the valve springs so he can assemble the head and then it will be ready for the short block. Pistons should be done in 2 weeks.

Finally got the upper lenses back and am amazed how good the tail lights look after sanding, polishing and Xpel clear wrap.

Also, more work on the engine bay. Almost all holes gone now.

RVAE34 · 11-29-2018, 05:24 PM

Passenger side access holes now all welded up. Looks like he decided to just cut out the uneven sections on the driver.

10-11-2018, 12:16 PM	#211
supersayianjim Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: location X Posts: 1,815 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	holy shit, that is fkn mint!!! yes that front diff/subframe is a bitch to work around. __________________ http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/rb...ject-s-rb.html

10-11-2018, 12:25 PM	#213
supersayianjim Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: location X Posts: 1,815 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	yes now on the ka route, remember I had a 4 cylinder 5 speed the z24 trans fits the ka engine. iirc I think the v6 5 speed is different. if you want to make ur life much easier you should source a 4wd d22 5 speed ka motor as their oil pickup and pan is for 4x4. now those are hard to find in the junkyards, and I went with this 240sx motor is because it was free-99 after I sold the tranny it came with. __________________ http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/rb...ject-s-rb.html

10-17-2018, 06:54 PM	#218
supersayianjim Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: location X Posts: 1,815 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	pic of said nitto? __________________ http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/rb...ject-s-rb.html

10-18-2018, 04:36 PM	#222
supersayianjim Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: location X Posts: 1,815 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	is that collar extended? __________________ http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/rb...ject-s-rb.html

10-29-2018, 08:14 AM	#226
BryanS14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 149 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Looks awesome. Jealous of such a straight body to start with. __________________ 2011 F150 DD, 1992 Mercedes 190e 2.6 Toy, 1997 240sx-sold

10-11-2018, 12:21 PM	#212
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks! Took me like a year of daily searching to find it. Bought 3.5 years ago w 65k miles. Just rolled over 85k. I did the 87 pathfinder front end swap. Bought last NOS grill in country! Looks like custom oil pick up and exhaust manifolds would be biggest challenge for the na z32 vg swap. Would look so good and perform so much better. But turbo ka would be easiest if I just bought a 4cyl junker as a base.

10-11-2018, 12:34 PM	#214
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ha! What's funny is that I bought a supercharged VG Frontier manual 4x4 as a donor for a swap. At the time, I had too many projects going on and just sold the truck at a small loss. Really wish I hadn't now but what can you do.. I just love the look of the Z32 VG which is why I would really love to make it work. But in reality, it seems like a bit overly optimistic especially after spending so much money on the Z31. Good tip on the KA D22!

10-12-2018, 11:09 AM	#216
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	2 identical renders. One with trim and one without. I am leaning towards keeping the trim with these more accurate renders. Before, the original didn't have trim shown elsewhere nor the T tops. This is how the final car will look. I just won the JDM side markers on yahoo japan. These also show a shortened rear bumper.

10-17-2018, 06:44 PM	#217
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Decided on the Haltech 2500 ECU since I am using a crank trigger wheel in addition to the cam sensor. Trying to decide on an oil pump now and it's between an N1 R34 GTR pump with billet Spool gears, Nitto high flow with Nitto billet external oil drain or the Tomei with an external oil drain. Leaning towards the Nitto.

10-18-2018, 08:03 AM	#219
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You can google image search it. I am on my phone so can't post pics. It's a beast and priced accordingly but not sure it's necessary for my build.

10-18-2018, 10:50 AM	#220
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Decided on the N1 pump with Spool gears.

10-18-2018, 05:18 PM	#223
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, I have the Nitto stroker crank.

10-22-2018, 01:52 PM	#224
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Exterior body work is almost done. I ordered the Haltech 2500 stand alone ECU and the R34 N1 oil pump with the upgraded Spool gears.

10-26-2018, 08:09 PM	#225
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Machinist is currently working on the engine this eve and said the piston mold should be done tomorrow or Sunday. Stopped by the body shop to drop off some parts and took some photos of my own. It looks fantastic! The next updates should be good stuff!

11-01-2018, 07:06 PM	#227
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks! CP overnighted new mold kits to my machinist so hoping to pick the mold up this weekend. The shelf life is pretty short apparently. Body guy is priming the car tomorrow!

11-02-2018, 03:39 PM	#228
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Correct, RB combustion chambers are far from ideal which is why my machinist is doing so much work to my head. The car isn't primed yet. He was trying to wrap up another car that's just about done. I will have primed pics next week. Piston mold is done and ready to send off to CP. He finished doing the port and polish on the intake manifold to match the head and over bored RB26 ITB's. Lastly, I got the N1 R34 GTR oil pump, Spool gears and the Haltech 2500 ECU. Today I also ordered Tomei adjustable cam gears.

11-03-2018, 02:22 PM	#229
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Fenders were rolled and he pushed them out 3mm for extra tire clearance while keeping the flat edge! Primer is tomorrow!

11-04-2018, 08:08 PM	#230
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	This thing looks extremely well done man. Good choices on the Feal suspension and the s-chassis subframe swap. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

11-05-2018, 11:15 AM	#231
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thank you! Epoxy and filler prime.

11-08-2018, 02:49 PM	#232
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Custom pistons ordered from CP. 12:1 compression, oversized with rings and wrist pins. I paid the extra for 2-3 week expedited delivery and to have each piston completely ceramic coated to reduce friction and heat. Can't wait!

11-08-2018, 06:53 PM	#234
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have not and although I said ceramic coated, it is possible CP will suggest some other coating. I just opted to have the dome and side skirts coated in whatever they suggest. I want to let them do it because they input the thickness of material into the overall size of the custom pistons apparently.

11-16-2018, 05:24 AM	#237
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	In talking with CP, I am going ceramic dome and WPC on the rest of the piston. Engine bay shaving well under way. Good before and after of the passenger side firewall.

11-16-2018, 03:08 PM	#238
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews

11-27-2018, 08:23 AM	#239
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks, gentlemen!! Machinist orders shims for the valve springs so he can assemble the head and then it will be ready for the short block. Pistons should be done in 2 weeks. Finally got the upper lenses back and am amazed how good the tail lights look after sanding, polishing and Xpel clear wrap. Also, more work on the engine bay. Almost all holes gone now.

11-29-2018, 05:24 PM	#240
RVAE34 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Passenger side access holes now all welded up. Looks like he decided to just cut out the uneven sections on the driver.