Mishimoto rad neck leak common? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

chingon · 07-02-2016, 10:16 PM

I've got a 240sx w/an overheating issue and what appears to be some seeping around the radiator neck (could be cap I suppose). I noticed that these neck seem to be press fit/brazed on and not welded.

Anyone have similar issues w/these rads or their China equivalents?

kruked · 07-02-2016, 10:55 PM

Could be you overflow hose if there isn't a good seal on it.

Other than that, just trolling. I don't have a Mishi. I am using a Koyo.

*brndck* · 07-02-2016, 11:00 PM

One of my friends had the same issue with mishimoto. His water neck nipple to the overflow tank broke off. It's not attached properly like it was just threaded into the neck and it's poor quality. Mishimoto warranties it for him though.

Ilya · 07-02-2016, 11:04 PM

I have the exact same issue with my Mishimoto Radiator for my S13.

Unfortunatly my car is a DD and I dont have the down time to wait for a replacement. I did remove that tiny barb fitting and seal it with some teflon tape. Seems to leak less but I the problem is still there. Who ever drilled and tapped the neck, did an awful job and it leaks like a river.

The radiator also doesnt keep the coolant cold because the neck was drilled such way that the radiator cap cannot seal it so no pressure ever is built in the cooling system.

What's funny is that someone said that Mishimoto sucks, and had it been a year earlier, and I would have disagreed. Seeing a $300 dollar radiator with that quality of work really made me not want to get anything else from Mishimoto and I recommend you do the same.

chingon · 07-03-2016, 12:10 AM

Didn't think to check the overflow barb. I'm talking more about the neck going into the tank.

I heard koyo had issues w/their hose pipes being overly thin and crushing over time as well. I've had a cx racing in the past w/no issues. And koyo brass OEM that was a solid unit.

red240 · 07-03-2016, 05:20 AM

My koyo did that, was very thin around the neck , I bougth a billet neck and had it welded on, never leaked again lol

chingon · 07-03-2016, 01:57 PM

turns out the pooling was from the cap. I bent the holding tabs so it's tighter now and that fixed the leaking. I've still got vapor coming off the bottom of the rad now. I thought it was just spillover but I may have a pin hole/bad solder on one or multiple tubes.

Now whether it's worth the fix at a rad shop or cut my losses.

Whats the usual rate to fix a rad tube leak?

kruked · 07-03-2016, 02:30 PM

Glad that the cap was the main issue. I'd recommend before going to a shop, pull the radiator and wash the outside down w/ soap and water and a soft bristle brush. It's a possibility that the steam is residue from the coolant. When you're done doing that, plug the inlet and outlet, let the radiator dry off pretty good and fill the radiator up w/ water. If there are any pin holes, the water will drip out. You can buy a pressure tester from Harbour Freight for a few bucks. It'll do you justice for determining if there's a pin hole or not w/ water in the system.

chingon · 07-03-2016, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kruked

Glad that the cap was the main issue. I'd recommend before going to a shop, pull the radiator and wash the outside down w/ soap and water and a soft bristle brush. It's a possibility that the steam is residue from the coolant. When you're done doing that, plug the inlet and outlet, let the radiator dry off pretty good and fill the radiator up w/ water. If there are any pin holes, the water will drip out. You can buy a pressure tester from Harbour Freight for a few bucks. It'll do you justice for determining if there's a pin hole or not w/ water in the system.

yeah, I'll probably go to autozone and borrow their pressure tester before I do anything hasty. Hope I don't pop a leak under the dash or something

kruked · 07-03-2016, 03:52 PM

You won't pop a leak under the dash if you pull the radiator and pressure test just it.

chingon · 07-03-2016, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kruked

You won't pop a leak under the dash if you pull the radiator and pressure test just it.

Didn't want to have to drain system and find plugs....i guess off to lowes to find some 1-1/4'' nipples and caps....or maybe just not go crazy w/the pumping

corby_baby · 07-03-2016, 06:17 PM

Glad I wasn't the only one with this same issue. Just pitch it in the trash and get a Koyo, you won't regret it!

jedi03 · 07-03-2016, 06:44 PM

I have used all three of the mentioned...just throw some bars stop leak in and call it good! one was rabbit put hole in it(hit at 75mph), one was me overtightening the drain, snapped off and leaked, current one holding with no issues! but bar s in there, just be careful I have heard it can clog heater core...

chingon · 07-06-2016, 03:17 PM

well, just moved the car into the garage this afternoon and the radiator was pressurized cold. Fuk...

anyone know the ball park to do an ls1 HG job?

*brndck* · 07-06-2016, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chingon

Didn't want to have to drain system and find plugs....i guess off to lowes to find some 1-1/4'' nipples and caps....or maybe just not go crazy w/the pumping

You only need 18-20psi. Stock cap is like 13.

chingon · 07-06-2016, 07:22 PM

cant even do that because mishimoto uses another type of neck not 240sx (import pressure adapter too loose)

chingon · 07-08-2016, 03:56 PM

ok; just did an exhaust in coolant test and seems like HG is doing a-ok. I'll just get another rad and fan setup.

*anti tyler* · 07-10-2016, 01:45 AM

You sure you don't want to just have the neck touched up instead of getting a whole new setup?

supersayianjim · 07-10-2016, 08:03 AM

I brought a cx racing radiator for my rb and my 1jz.

the rb lasted 2 years and the overflow barb broke off so I scrapped that radiator and I'm waiting to get a replacement.

on the sc/1jz my neck was leaking so I got crafty and had my buddy weld the neck to the rest of the rad.

before

after

chingon · 07-10-2016, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anti tyler

You sure you don't want to just have the neck touched up instead of getting a whole new setup?

Turned out the leak at the neck was the pressure cap (i adjusted the pressure tabs and that stopped the leak). However I have leak a the bottom end tank where the tubes are brazed/welded. I don't have much confidence a shop can fix that type of leak (maybe reflux/flow solder?).

In any case, 100 bux later I ordered an ebay/mishimoto/cx racing clone shipped to my door...guessing rad shop would charge 30$ to even attempt a fix. I'll run a 16 psi cap instead of the 19 psi cap on the previous mishimoto just for safety.

My biggest fear was leaky HG pressurizing the system and causing all these leaks (I thought I had pressure when cold), but a HG test kit showed no reaction from exhaust gases. I did finally manage to get the pressure tester on there and it climbed to ~14 psi and dropped to as low as 5 psi when thermostat opened and fan came on. Does 5 psi sound normal at idle for coolant pressure (seems kind of low)?

chingon · 07-10-2016, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersayianjim

I brought a cx racing radiator for my rb and my 1jz.

the rb lasted 2 years and the overflow barb broke off so I scrapped that radiator and I'm waiting to get a replacement.

on the sc/1jz my neck was leaking so I got crafty and had my buddy weld the neck to the rest of the rad.

before

after

I feared that was the problem w/mine...turned out to be the mishimoto cap

*anti tyler* · 07-10-2016, 09:15 PM

Read up on this, it's very informative.
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=132967

Stock pressure cap is generally 7 psi, so figure you're running at 5psi you're safely under the threshold for opening the cap.

Now he's using pictures for an RB so I think it's as close as it gets to your situation.

Rb26kouki · 07-14-2016, 09:08 PM

Same thing with my mishimoto
-_-

chingon · 07-15-2016, 10:53 PM

china clone came in, identical to the mishi but it seems like they counter measured the pressed/soldered neck by welding it now. Will update as the other stuff arrives.

mishimoto · 07-21-2016, 02:53 PM

Hello Everyone,

Thank you for the post.

I would like to apologize if you are having any issues with our products. That being said we do have a great warranty and the process is painless. We can actually send you a radiator without you having to remove your factory one.

For any additional questions please feel free to contact us directly at [email protected]

kruked · 07-21-2016, 03:21 PM

Of course the radiator would have to have been purchased from a dealer and there would need to be proof of purchase.

Most things around here are at least second hand, so I'm assuming that Mishimoto won't warranty something that was purchased second hand? W/o a receipt?

Rb26kouki · 07-21-2016, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kruked

Of course the radiator would have to have been purchased from a dealer and there would need to be proof of purchase.

Most things around here are at least second hand, so I'm assuming that Mishimoto won't warranty something that was purchased second hand? W/o a receipt?

I got mine brand new second hand, dude was suppose to forward me receipt for warranty he never got around it nor I ever thought I was have such issue now seems like I'm out of luck smh

07-02-2016, 10:16 PM	#1
chingon Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: el paso tx Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Mishimoto rad neck leak common? I've got a 240sx w/an overheating issue and what appears to be some seeping around the radiator neck (could be cap I suppose). I noticed that these neck seem to be press fit/brazed on and not welded. Anyone have similar issues w/these rads or their China equivalents?

07-02-2016, 10:55 PM	#2
kruked Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: someone's sisters' pants Posts: 2,288 Trader Rating: (37) Feedback Score: 37 reviews	Could be you overflow hose if there isn't a good seal on it. Other than that, just trolling. I don't have a Mishi. I am using a Koyo. __________________ I like my bikes how I like my b¡tches...naked! 2014 Triumph Street Triple

07-03-2016, 02:30 PM	#8
kruked Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: someone's sisters' pants Posts: 2,288 Trader Rating: (37) Feedback Score: 37 reviews	Glad that the cap was the main issue. I'd recommend before going to a shop, pull the radiator and wash the outside down w/ soap and water and a soft bristle brush. It's a possibility that the steam is residue from the coolant. When you're done doing that, plug the inlet and outlet, let the radiator dry off pretty good and fill the radiator up w/ water. If there are any pin holes, the water will drip out. You can buy a pressure tester from Harbour Freight for a few bucks. It'll do you justice for determining if there's a pin hole or not w/ water in the system. __________________ I like my bikes how I like my b¡tches...naked! 2014 Triumph Street Triple

07-03-2016, 03:52 PM	#10
kruked Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: someone's sisters' pants Posts: 2,288 Trader Rating: (37) Feedback Score: 37 reviews	You won't pop a leak under the dash if you pull the radiator and pressure test just it. __________________ I like my bikes how I like my b¡tches...naked! 2014 Triumph Street Triple

07-10-2016, 08:03 AM	#19
supersayianjim Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: location X Posts: 1,815 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I brought a cx racing radiator for my rb and my 1jz. the rb lasted 2 years and the overflow barb broke off so I scrapped that radiator and I'm waiting to get a replacement. on the sc/1jz my neck was leaking so I got crafty and had my buddy weld the neck to the rest of the rad. before after __________________ http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/rb...ject-s-rb.html

07-02-2016, 11:04 PM	#4
Ilya Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Diego Age: 34 Posts: 712 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I have the exact same issue with my Mishimoto Radiator for my S13. Unfortunatly my car is a DD and I dont have the down time to wait for a replacement. I did remove that tiny barb fitting and seal it with some teflon tape. Seems to leak less but I the problem is still there. Who ever drilled and tapped the neck, did an awful job and it leaks like a river. The radiator also doesnt keep the coolant cold because the neck was drilled such way that the radiator cap cannot seal it so no pressure ever is built in the cooling system. What's funny is that someone said that Mishimoto sucks, and had it been a year earlier, and I would have disagreed. Seeing a $300 dollar radiator with that quality of work really made me not want to get anything else from Mishimoto and I recommend you do the same.

07-03-2016, 12:10 AM	#5
chingon Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: el paso tx Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Didn't think to check the overflow barb. I'm talking more about the neck going into the tank. I heard koyo had issues w/their hose pipes being overly thin and crushing over time as well. I've had a cx racing in the past w/no issues. And koyo brass OEM that was a solid unit.

07-03-2016, 05:20 AM	#6
red240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 432 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	My koyo did that, was very thin around the neck , I bougth a billet neck and had it welded on, never leaked again lol

07-03-2016, 01:57 PM	#7
chingon Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: el paso tx Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	turns out the pooling was from the cap. I bent the holding tabs so it's tighter now and that fixed the leaking. I've still got vapor coming off the bottom of the rad now. I thought it was just spillover but I may have a pin hole/bad solder on one or multiple tubes. Now whether it's worth the fix at a rad shop or cut my losses. Whats the usual rate to fix a rad tube leak?

07-03-2016, 06:17 PM	#12
corby_baby Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 346 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Glad I wasn't the only one with this same issue. Just pitch it in the trash and get a Koyo, you won't regret it!

07-03-2016, 06:44 PM	#13
jedi03 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: albuquerque Posts: 1,836 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I have used all three of the mentioned...just throw some bars stop leak in and call it good! one was rabbit put hole in it(hit at 75mph), one was me overtightening the drain, snapped off and leaked, current one holding with no issues! but bar s in there, just be careful I have heard it can clog heater core...

07-06-2016, 03:17 PM	#14
chingon Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: el paso tx Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	well, just moved the car into the garage this afternoon and the radiator was pressurized cold. Fuk... anyone know the ball park to do an ls1 HG job?

07-06-2016, 07:22 PM	#16
chingon Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: el paso tx Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	cant even do that because mishimoto uses another type of neck not 240sx (import pressure adapter too loose)

07-08-2016, 03:56 PM	#17
chingon Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: el paso tx Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ok; just did an exhaust in coolant test and seems like HG is doing a-ok. I'll just get another rad and fan setup.

07-14-2016, 09:08 PM	#23
Rb26kouki Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Commerce Age: 32 Posts: 1,473 Trader Rating: (62) Feedback Score: 62 reviews	Same thing with my mishimoto -_-

07-15-2016, 10:53 PM	#24
chingon Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: el paso tx Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	china clone came in, identical to the mishi but it seems like they counter measured the pressed/soldered neck by welding it now. Will update as the other stuff arrives.

07-21-2016, 02:53 PM	#25
mishimoto Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Delaware Posts: 618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hello Everyone, Thank you for the post. I would like to apologize if you are having any issues with our products. That being said we do have a great warranty and the process is painless. We can actually send you a radiator without you having to remove your factory one. For any additional questions please feel free to contact us directly at [email protected] __________________ Mishimoto Automotive

07-21-2016, 03:21 PM	#26
kruked Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: someone's sisters' pants Posts: 2,288 Trader Rating: (37) Feedback Score: 37 reviews	Of course the radiator would have to have been purchased from a dealer and there would need to be proof of purchase. Most things around here are at least second hand, so I'm assuming that Mishimoto won't warranty something that was purchased second hand? W/o a receipt? __________________ I like my bikes how I like my b¡tches...naked! 2014 Triumph Street Triple