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Old 09-06-2017, 02:31 PM   #10621
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Oof! That was fast...lol
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God Nissan... put this thing out of it's misery already. Who is even still buying enough of these for them to stay profitable?
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ple-more-years

Edit: This is just painful to look at...
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Old 09-06-2017, 03:13 PM   #10623
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I wonder when Nissan is gonna make a "We Give Up Edition" of the Z...?

Least they could do is take the car out to the cornfield and put a bullet between its eyes like you would do with ANY farm animal no longer pulling its weight due to old age or sickness.
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Damn 370 already has 8 model years, that's an eternity for a car.

But this is Nissan we're talking about here, the Titan had MY's from 2004-2015!
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God Nissan... put this thing out of it's misery already. Who is even still buying enough of these for them to stay profitable?
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ple-more-years

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Painful is the right word. Embarrassing comes to mind too. The Camaro and mustang have had two generations in that time and a mid cycle refresh.
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Painful is the right word. Embarrassing comes to mind too. The Camaro and mustang have had two generations in that time and a mid cycle refresh.
And they got the nerve to continue pricing it at $29,990 for brand new.
They need to be like $25k at this point. There is zero reason to pay over $4k more than an entry level Mustang or Camaro for the Z, IMO.
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Oh hell yes. All of this shit. Expect we won't be getting it.


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^^^See? Now thats why I keep posting all the Kia stuff. We know they're gonna drop an FR coupe at some point... It's just a question of when and for how much?

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^^^See? Now thats why I keep posting all the Kia stuff. We know they're gonna drop an FR coupe at some point... It's just a question of when and for how much?

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^^^Oh. I thought it was a coupe in the other picture. Kia tryna bring back station wagons? lol
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^^^Oh. I thought it was a coupe in the other picture. Kia tryna bring back station wagons? lol
Wagons are making a strong comeback right now actually. The reason CUVs are booming is because people want the utility. Wagons offer that with a lower profile. I'm genuinely considering the new Regal wagon. I'm waiting for them to hit dealers so I can see one in the flesh.
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^^^I had to go & google what that looked like... Its not bad. I'm all onboard with a wagon resurgence if they follow Telsa's lead on how to fit 7 passengers in something about the size of the Model S.
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Sooo the Kia stinger is a Charger, and shooting brake is the new Magnum, got it.

I hope the Z4 will looks just like the concept, have a 3rd pedal, and more importantly... I hope I can afford it. [emoji23]
I don't have high hopes for the new Supra appearance.

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Shit bro... can you afford the current Z4? They'll probably be similar in price & they aren't exactly inexpensive. I'm not above waiting a few years (more like 10+)...lol
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Sooo the Kia stinger is a Charger, and shooting brake is the new Magnum, got it.

I hope the Z4 will looks just like the concept, have a 3rd pedal, and more importantly... I hope I can afford it. [emoji23]
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Pretty sure they confirmed it will have a third pedal.

And I've stated previously why I think the Supra will have one as well.
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^^^I had to go & google what that looked like... Its not bad. I'm all onboard with a wagon resurgence if they follow Telsa's lead on how to fit 7 passengers in something about the size of the Model S.
I wish companies would go back to the reverse seating third row wagon. It makes so much sense.
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I wish companies would go back to the reverse seating third row wagon. It makes so much sense.
I would guess its a safety issue. I would not want to see what would happen to those kids in the above pic if a Suv hit it doing 45mph.
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^^^They got a rear crash safety rating of GOOD... but yeah, I agree. I wouldn't want to confirm that with my family. Looks dicey.

But I'd welcome other manufacturers to figure out a way to further increase safety reinforcement. That means more weight, I guess...lol
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Shit bro... can you afford the current Z4? They'll probably be similar in price & they aren't exactly inexpensive. I'm not above waiting a few years (more like 10+)...lol
Not really... but I did't say I'd buy it at zero miles off the lot. Lol

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Not to mention all the akward eye contact in stop and go traffic. Haha

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I'll be curious to see how Tessa holds up in a year or so after all the dope EV's that got announced last night start rolling out from BMW, MB, Jaguar, and Honda. IMO they are going to suddenly not look so special and it's growing pains will
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It should be interesting indeed. I think their growing pains might become more apparent with the rollout of the Model 3. Hopefully they can have lessons learned from it before they rollout the crossover Model Y. I also like the recent news that Telsa is looking at rolling out supercharger stations in dense urban areas.
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Right. Now that the big name car makers are throwing serious development dollars at EVs, Tesla will have a hard time keeping up with their quality, IMO. At least initially. But Tesla has already made a big name for themselves in this field. We'll see if that can sustain them up against this competition until their actual merit speaks for itself.

Speaking of the other guys, you guys seen the new Honda EV concept? Probably won't be RWD, but still pretty retro cool looking...


Looks like the 1st gen Civic...
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Right. Now that the big name car makers are throwing serious development dollars at EVs, Tesla will have a hard time keeping up with their quality, IMO. At least initially. But Tesla has already made a big name for themselves in this field. We'll see if that can sustain them up against this competition until their actual merit speaks for itself.

Speaking of the other guys, you guys seen the new Honda EV concept? Probably won't be RWD, but still pretty retro cool looking...


Looks like the 1st gen Civic...
I literally came in here to post some of these cars, that Honda being one of them.







There's just no WAY I'd consider a Model 3 over that Honda or MB, A Model S over that BMW or a model X over the Audi. They are too shoddily made and designed.
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Old 09-14-2017, 03:39 PM   #10648
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That Honda looks sweeeeet!! I would totally rock one of those. As well as the previously stated Kia wagon.
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Old 09-14-2017, 04:56 PM   #10649
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Unlike Nissan the Honda is slated for production. Sure it won't have alllllll the retro cues of the concept (certainly not the wheels) but there's enough character there for that thing to be a hit.

As much as I LOVED the IDX I'm not sure I'd buy an EV version. Not sure exactly why I can't fully get on board the EV wagon.
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Old 09-14-2017, 05:03 PM   #10650
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So the Genesis G70 looks interesting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLub-H6sPPw





http://jalopnik.com/im-really-diggin...g70-1811062649
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