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Old 11-29-2017, 12:14 PM   #10921
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In light of future rwd coupe developments, take a glance back on this thread.
Just re-read the first ten pages. And some of the guesses/assumptions/ theory’s came to life.

The humor, and the sadness of 10yrs in hopes of a new s-chassis traded for a mustang.... lol
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I have found that some people are very enamored by the idea of electric cars, that they fail to see all of the crutches used to prop them up. Advocates seem to turn a blind eye to the origins of the power stored in the batteries, the origins/environmental toll the manufacturing of the batteries, the absurdity of the overheating/limp mode problems, fit and finish, management follies, huge .gov subsidies, spontaneous combustion, I mean I could go on.

Sounds like a great idea, in practice its not as attractive.

ahhhh the power of marketing and public perception

electricity is so clean it doesn't even make any smoke
Ever seen a big new expensive (as shit) diesel truck in limp mode? Or just turn off until you pay a dealer thousands of dollars? Sometimes you gotta limp.

Saying it's not environmental on a car forum hardly does much to argue against electric cars, as far as I can see. It's just another form of stored energy - pretty sure it's use in cars predates that of internal combustion.

Cars having fit and finish problems? Management follies and reliability problems and subsidies in a car company? Say it ain't so...
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Old 11-29-2017, 03:31 PM   #10923
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THIS!!! I look for the silver lining in EV cars taking over, but I would have MUCH preferred if Hydrogen power became the dominant technology. Much smaller environmental footprint.
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Old 11-29-2017, 08:23 PM   #10924
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Yes, the sedan market is DRY. And that goes for long time staples like the Accord, Camry, 3 Series, etc. Luxury and sport sedans are being hit even harder. Ford JUST released the Fusion Sport and you can get them for $10k off. At $35k the thing was already one of the bang for your bucks on the market. EVERYONE is buying CUVs in all shapes and sizes.

So point being, this Stinger GT should be pretty cheap soon and another great deal.
Annnnnnnd I fucking called it. My quote from July. That was quicker than I thought though.

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Old 11-30-2017, 12:13 AM   #10925
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Looks like Nissan is shitting out another rolling pile of disappointment for 2018...the Kicks cuv.

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Old 11-30-2017, 05:46 AM   #10926
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One that’s going to print money though.

On a side note the LA Auto Show is happening and...Mazda is the only manufacturer that debuted a car. Other than the 6 there have ONLY (ok fine, a new CLS and a Vette debuted but...) been CUVs debut. Wow. At the LA AUTO show! No sports car at all.
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Yea, the LA auto show has been kind of a snorefest. Mazda's new sled looks slick, Nissan's star wars hype wagons are goofy.

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Iím actually going to be there next week and thought ďhey maybe Iíll swing in and check it out.Ē. But man Iím not sure I really want to see anything other than the 6. And even thatís not worth the hassle of me getting there and the price of admission.

I thought the LA show would be THE show the Supra would debut. Very surprised actually. Especially since it didnít debut in Tokyo. Detroit maaaaybe. Even though Chicago is getting bigger I just donít see that being the place to debut such an important car. After that the big big shows are done. I CANT imagine them waiting another 9 months. Do they just whip the thing out out of nowhere in the middle of Summer?

Very surprised indeed.
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BTW, I appreciate you not posting a picture about it. I really don't want to see it...lol
It's just as boring as the rest of their lineup, so nothing lost.

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Old 12-03-2017, 03:22 PM   #10931
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I’m not particularly motivated to visit the LA auto show.

The Chevy booth would be the only thing I’m more interested in, esp the ZR1 is on display. Aside from lukewarm interest in the Civic Type R, I find the Japanese offerings dreadfully depressing.

Yes it would have been nice to see the Supra. Sad we may have just missed it.
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Yeah super cool. The leak a few weeks ago says it’s going to debut in 1 month at the Detroit Auto Show. Sure how so. Last years Show was truly awful.
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Annnnnnnd I fucking called it. My quote from July. That was quicker than I thought though.

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So I just built a Stinger GT and it came out to $41,250. With the $6800 in incentives the car is a goddamn performance STEAL.

Calling the Kia dealer tomorrow.
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looks like kia stinger imitated audi a7 design esp. the rear. the frontend just dont flow/blend with the rest of the body.

i prefer the giulia 2.0 turbo at this price range.
although, stinger does have a awd option on the 2.0 which is pretty cool
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looks like kia stinger imitated audi a7 design esp. the rear. the frontend just dont flow/blend with the rest of the body.

i prefer the giulia 2.0 turbo at this price range.
although, stinger does have a awd option on the 2.0 which is pretty cool
Well everyone is doing the ďcoupeĒ kinda roofline.

I like the fact that the Stinger is a pretty spacious hatch to boot.
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I actually don't hate it, even though I constantly hate on Kia, but it kills me that their first legitimate entry into the sports car market doesn't offer a manual transmission.


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Yeah and thatís really what made me not even consider it. But hell, I need a second car. Bad. It has to be able to fit 3 booster seats in the back seat and fit a ton of camera equipment for shoots so any kind of coupe is out. That leaves me with some kind of sport sedan and non of them are offered in stick. The ATS was really the best bet. But if I comprise on the transmission the Stinger is a hell of a car for the $.
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I don't see anything...

But here's the pre-production C7 ZR1 though...
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That’s definitely Detroit area. You just see that shit there. Some odd years ago we saw a unreleased C7 ZO6 pulling out of a residential driveway and onto a flatbed about 40 min west of Detroit in the middle of the day. I also saw (and have a photo) of the C7R being loaded into a enclosed trailer in the middle of downtown Ann Arbor. I thought it was a fucking Harley. Nope, just a full blown LeMans GT car. Lol
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Honda really needs to take note... if youre gonna add a shit ton of ugly giant vents to the car, MAKE THEM WORK!!!
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Kia Stinger engine and the new Nissan 3.0t named to Wards top 10 engines.
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Too bad Nissan has given us a decent car for it to be in.
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