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Devens240 · 10-12-2008, 08:52 PM

quick question. how would the fzigen fn's 17X10 +12 fit on the back of an S13, stock body?

EDIT: i plan on running 275/40/17, would i be better off with a higher offset?

JRas · 10-12-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Devens240

quick question. how would the fzigen fn's 17X10 +12 fit on the back of an S13, stock body?

EDIT: i plan on running 275/40/17, would i be better off with a higher offset?

I run 17x10 +18 with 275's

you'd be extended out 6mm ( 0.23in ) more than me

my fenders and pulled as you cans see from the pictures

I think it can be done ( with pulled fenders of course )

Devens240 · 10-13-2008, 08:57 AM

ok thankyou. how much camber are you running?

JRas · 10-13-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Devens240

ok thankyou. how much camber are you running?

-3 in the front

-2 in the rear

mondojackal · 10-13-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by racepar1

The 595-SS is the drifter favorite. The 595-RS is feddy's version of the rt-615. It is not quite as sticky, but it is really cheap. Feddy is also coming out with a 595-RSR which is supposed to at least match the azenis if not beat them.

ah, thanks for the clarification.

in you guys' opinion(s), what are some of the best of the inexpensive grippy tires. i want to put something pretty sticky on my daily, but i dont want anything with a really low treadwear rating, and i'd rather not spend a couple hundred on each tire, either.

Devens240 · 10-13-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JRas

-3 in the front

-2 in the rear

ok. would i be better off going with a higher offset? like 17X10 +25? will i rub the coils? (stance gr+ pros) and plan to auto-x and want to have 275's in the back and 255's on a 9 up front

RPS13-604 · 10-13-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Devens240

ok. would i be better off going with a higher offset? like 17X10 +25? will i rub the coils? (stance gr+ pros) and plan to auto-x and want to have 275's in the back and 255's on a 9 up front

255's up front you wont clear ur gonna be rubbing like crazy

mondojackal · 10-13-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RPS13-604

255's up front you wont clear ur gonna be rubbing like crazy

depends on the offset and ride height and camber settings.

to Devens240, though..
17x10+25's will NOT clear the coils on an s13 (front) without a rather large spacer. at least 15mm. they will fit on the back though, for sure.

Devens240 · 10-13-2008, 10:53 PM

yes i know sorry i didnt specify, i meant 17X10 +25 rear. probably 17X9 +20 or so up front

moses · 10-21-2008, 02:33 PM

Hey guys im in Devens240' boat. I really dont want to get overfenders for the front.
Would 17x8.5 with I guess a bigger offset than +20 with an azenis 615 255/40/17 with a 5 or 10mm spacer work on the front with a little camber. Or does the size of the rim not matter that much?
And sorry for the newbie question but what does it mean to pull your fenders?

golfer17 · 10-21-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer17

YOUR CHASSIS: s14,

WHEELS: Work Emotion CR-Kai, 17x8 +25-f, 17x9 +38-r

TIRES: yokohama avs es100 235/40/17-f, dunlop direzza 255/40/17-r

MISC DETAILS: approx. 350whp, j30 diff. approx. 3100lbs with driver. these tires will hook the power in first gear but only on the best of roads and usually only on a good, hot day. the traction in cool to cold weather is terrible, but they really do well when the temp is above 80 or so and the roads have been heated by the sun.

I have 275/40/17 avon m-tech's and 245/40/17 falken fk450's waiting to go on, and by my measurements the rears should easily fit and the fronts will be as close as i want to get. the suspension is currently tein s-techs and tokico blue struts, but I also have stance gr+ coilovers waiting to go on that I am hoping will give even more tire clearance for future wheel and tire choices.

PURPOSE OF CAR: street, all-around performance

PICTURES: www.cardomain.com/id/golfer17

The coilovers and 275/40/17 rears are now on and at the last second I went with 245/45/17 potenza re760's for the front.

Glad i did the tires with the coilovers, as I think these front tires are a little bit too tall and too wide for a spring and strut combo. Currently the front left rubs in the middle of the plastic when it hits a bump on a fast corner and when I first had them at -2 camber(-1.5 now), there was only a finger width clearance (good enough) between them and the coilover spring. Next time around, I think I will sacrifice some ride quality to go with the low profile 245/40's.

For the rears, they fit quite well, with only slight rubbing around the edge on one side because the suspension is now so low that the subframe is actually leaning slightly to one side or the other depending on how the toe is set (It tends to lean to whichever side the toe is off, or the toe is probably off because of whichever side it leans too; have toe arms ready to install to get more adjustment). I am hoping to help fix this a little with some subframe spacers (just something I've had laying around I need to install) to stiffen things up. Also, I don't think it was rubbing at all when I was at -1.25 camber (at -1 now), so i will probably go back to the sportier -1.25,r/-2,f camber settings. As far as how much room to fit wider tires goes, there is a ton on the inside; makes me wish I had gone with an even higher offset and a wider rim.

Traction? Insane. Of course upgrading to coilovers at the same time probably helped out a ton, but I can't believe how well this thing grips and takes corners now. Straight line? Unbelievable. I can now hook on almost any road, any gear or speed, as long as the temperature is above about 50-60F. And when its colder than that it just spins them a little. Even on high boost! When I'm not even pointed straight!!! I can't wait to get it to the track and see how fast I can pull out of corners now that i can actually give it gas as I'm pulling out of a corner (with the old tires, I had to be pointed straight or in a higher gear, like third!)

moses · 10-22-2008, 06:58 AM

is there a reason that no one puts 8.5 rims in the front with 255? Will it fit?

mikez97 · 10-22-2008, 07:00 AM

on the z i have re30's flat black
front 255 35 18 on a 18x9.5 +18
rear 295 35 18 on a 18X10.5 +15

mikez97 · 10-22-2008, 07:03 AM

brokeAs240sx · 10-22-2008, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses

is there a reason that no one puts 8.5 rims in the front with 255? Will it fit?

Will fit fine... If you look through the thread, you will see there are ppl are running x9's in the front w/ at least 255. My post shows me running x9 & 265's (18's - on wide fenders of course, but use your imagination since you are running a smaller wheel & tire), 8.5 w/ 255 are easier to fit.

Ppl don't usually run 8.5 because that's not as common as x8 or x9.

EDIT: and to more fully answer your question, I've seen people run x9 +20 on the front w/ stock fenders, usually only 235's or so and a roll. For 255's, since you will balloon a bit w/ the sidewall, you'd want to slightly pull your fender if necessary depending on your ride height. And if you still don't know what that means, just search for "how to pull fenders" on here or google.

longfellow · 10-22-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Devens240

ok. would i be better off going with a higher offset? like 17X10 +25? will i rub the coils? (stance gr+ pros) and plan to auto-x and want to have 275's in the back and 255's on a 9 up front

I have the 17x10+12's with 255 RT615's on my S14 and with -3* camber and pulled fenders it hardly fits. I say your better off with the +25s.

I plan on buying a pair of +25 FN's to so they clear and I can run -1.5* to 2* neg camber for better handling/ long tire life.

moses · 10-24-2008, 05:09 PM

I just put my buddies 17x8 +28 offset with a 245/40/17 on my s13 front and it came out a little less than an inch and that means if I put a 17x8.5 +28 offset with a 255 and that is +10mm. How far can I roll the front fenders without it looking too bad?
Does it make a difference at all in clearence if i go with a 8.5 rim or 9 inch rim in front? The calcuator says no but I just want to make sure.

moses · 10-25-2008, 08:18 AM

Does it make a difference at all in clearence if i go with a 8.5 rim or 9 inch rim in front? The calcuator says no but I just want to make sure.

JRas · 10-25-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by moses

Does it make a difference at all in clearence if i go with a 8.5 rim or 9 inch rim in front? The calcuator says no but I just want to make sure.

one word offset

read up on it, I think we have a thread in the tech section

moses · 10-25-2008, 04:48 PM

I dont know why I didnt think of that. thanks

mondojackal · 10-26-2008, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JRas

one word offset

read up on it, I think we have a thread in the tech section

+1

offset is more important than width, IMO. you can make a 10 fit where an 8 wont just by picking the right offset.

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Originally Posted by moses

I dont know why I didnt think of that. thanks

me either, since you mentioned using a calculator.

vodka2 · 10-26-2008, 02:05 AM

what happend to all the pics? so i can stare at them for minutes at a time and think how im gonna fit these 18x11's and 18x12's lol.

moses · 10-26-2008, 09:19 AM

A 17x8 w/28 offset and 245 sticks out about 20mm in front with finger clearance.If I get a 17x8.5 w/ 255 I can go with the same offset and add a 5mm spacer. It would stick out about 26mm all together maybe more with the bigger tire. How bad would that be of a roll and pul in front?

golfer17 · 10-27-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by moses

is there a reason that no one puts 8.5 rims in the front with 255? Will it fit?

i don't think it would fit with stock fenders and -2 degrees or less camber. if you read my post, the 245/45/17's I have barely fit with the coilovers (approx. .25" clearance between coilover and flush with fender at -2 degrees camber).

gsracer · 10-27-2008, 10:16 PM

Im gonna whore myself out some more

mondojackal · 10-27-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gsracer

Im gonna whore myself out some more

fine by me.. i love your car!

what color are you going to paint the car?

KA240SX808 · 10-27-2008, 11:16 PM

Those 315's mlook lovely, what size Fenders ar those? 50's?

articdragon192 · 11-02-2008, 03:23 PM

I test fit new stuff. Only up front right now, will test fit the rears later.
Alignment:
-2.7° Camber
0.0 Toe
10.5 Caster

18*10.5 +15 CE28
285/30-18 BF Goodrich KD
Stock Fenders

brokeAs240sx · 11-02-2008, 05:17 PM

nice! but Edgar:

1) maybe note it is z32/s13/s14? I'm pretty sure that's your Z, but not EVERYONE knows what you test fit rims on

2) better pics please, i.e. further back/diff angle so that we can see how close it lines up w/ the fender, etc.

articdragon192 · 11-02-2008, 08:31 PM

Lol, oh yeah, sorry to burst S-chassis owners bubble, but that's on a Z32. I'll get better pics this coming week.
It lines up close to what this 265 on the same wheel looks like. Just a slight bit more square.

Better pics to come soon. With more light and a real camera, lol.

10-21-2008, 02:33 PM	#640
moses Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jacksonville, ar Age: 37 Posts: 555 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: moses Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Hey guys im in Devens240' boat. I really dont want to get overfenders for the front. Would 17x8.5 with I guess a bigger offset than +20 with an azenis 615 255/40/17 with a 5 or 10mm spacer work on the front with a little camber. Or does the size of the rim not matter that much? And sorry for the newbie question but what does it mean to pull your fenders? Last edited by moses; 10-21-2008 at 02:40 PM.. Reason: forgot something

10-24-2008, 05:09 PM	#647
moses Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jacksonville, ar Age: 37 Posts: 555 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: moses Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I just put my buddies 17x8 +28 offset with a 245/40/17 on my s13 front and it came out a little less than an inch and that means if I put a 17x8.5 +28 offset with a 255 and that is +10mm. How far can I roll the front fenders without it looking too bad? Does it make a difference at all in clearence if i go with a 8.5 rim or 9 inch rim in front? The calcuator says no but I just want to make sure. Last edited by moses; 10-24-2008 at 07:21 PM..

10-27-2008, 10:16 PM	#655
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articdragon192 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West covina Age: 38 Posts: 6,790 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I test fit new stuff. Only up front right now, will test fit the rears later. Alignment: -2.7° Camber 0.0 Toe 10.5 Caster 1810.5 +15 CE28 285/30-18 BF Goodrich KD Stock Fenders* __________________ Need help? Click here Still stumped? Try this Can't find what you're looking for? Here you go.

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brokeAs240sx Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,917 Trader Rating: (40) Feedback Score: 40 reviews	nice! but Edgar: 1) maybe note it is z32/s13/s14? I'm pretty sure that's your Z, but not EVERYONE knows what you test fit rims on 2) better pics please, i.e. further back/diff angle so that we can see how close it lines up w/ the fender, etc. __________________ bew bews!

10-12-2008, 08:52 PM	#631
Devens240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Washington Age: 34 Posts: 413 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	quick question. how would the fzigen fn's 17X10 +12 fit on the back of an S13, stock body? EDIT: i plan on running 275/40/17, would i be better off with a higher offset?

10-13-2008, 08:57 AM	#633
Devens240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Washington Age: 34 Posts: 413 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ok thankyou. how much camber are you running?

10-13-2008, 10:53 PM	#639
Devens240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Washington Age: 34 Posts: 413 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yes i know sorry i didnt specify, i meant 17X10 +25 rear. probably 17X9 +20 or so up front

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moses Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jacksonville, ar Age: 37 Posts: 555 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: moses Feedback Score: 2 reviews	is there a reason that no one puts 8.5 rims in the front with 255? Will it fit?

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mikez97 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: florida Posts: 100 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	on the z i have re30's flat black front 255 35 18 on a 18x9.5 +18 rear 295 35 18 on a 18X10.5 +15

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10-25-2008, 08:18 AM	#648
moses Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jacksonville, ar Age: 37 Posts: 555 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: moses Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Does it make a difference at all in clearence if i go with a 8.5 rim or 9 inch rim in front? The calcuator says no but I just want to make sure.

10-25-2008, 04:48 PM	#650
moses Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jacksonville, ar Age: 37 Posts: 555 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: moses Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I dont know why I didnt think of that. thanks

10-26-2008, 02:05 AM	#652
vodka2 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los angeles Posts: 1,177 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	what happend to all the pics? so i can stare at them for minutes at a time and think how im gonna fit these 18x11's and 18x12's lol.

10-26-2008, 09:19 AM	#653
moses Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jacksonville, ar Age: 37 Posts: 555 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: moses Feedback Score: 2 reviews	A 17x8 w/28 offset and 245 sticks out about 20mm in front with finger clearance.If I get a 17x8.5 w/ 255 I can go with the same offset and add a 5mm spacer. It would stick out about 26mm all together maybe more with the bigger tire. How bad would that be of a roll and pul in front?

11-02-2008, 08:31 PM	#660
articdragon192 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West covina Age: 38 Posts: 6,790 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Lol, oh yeah, sorry to burst S-chassis owners bubble, but that's on a Z32. I'll get better pics this coming week. It lines up close to what this 265 on the same wheel looks like. Just a slight bit more square. Better pics to come soon. With more light and a real camera, lol. __________________ Need help? Click here Still stumped? Try this Can't find what you're looking for? Here you go.