The Future Automotive Thread

[exitspeed]

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/09/27/...ris-auto-show/

I can appreciate this.

When your chassis is old af just add power.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/09/27/...ris-auto-show/

I can appreciate this.

When your chassis is old af just add power.

The 17+ is on a new chassis. Previous was the 2007 G chassis with new skin. The big problem with it still is that it's a heavy. 4,024 lb

[ronmcdon]

These cars are getting too expensive too.

The red 400 infiniti or whatever it's called is like $54k. I miss the old g35/37 especially when they sold under 40k. Part of the appeal of infinitis back then was it was a great deal relative to German offerings. Today not so much.

[ronmcdon]

2019 3 series reveal

https://jalopnik.com/2019-bmw-3-seri...dif-1829450305

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-sho...-info-pricing/

Seems quite controversial. Manual transmission is no longer an option.

I like interior a lot and don't mind the exterior save the Lexus like tail lights. $41k to start seems reasonable-ish to me for the 330 but good luck getting a car with little options.

I look forward to future reviews and get more feedback on how well it drives.

[exitspeed]

^

Totally uninterested.

But THIS has potential! https://www.autoblog.com/amp/2018/10...-returns-2020/ Rotary/Hybrid is officially returning in 2020!

[simmode1]

The 3 series has been a snorefest since, what the f80? It's all about the 2 series now.

I won't hold my breath on this ev rotary thingie.

[ronmcdon]

I don't see myself getting any of the newer 3 series, but what worries me is bmw's direction to move away from manual transmissions in general.

I do like the m2 a lot and I would be terribly sad if the next m2 was auto only. It wouldn't surprise me if that were the case.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

^

Totally uninterested.

But THIS has potential! https://www.autoblog.com/amp/2018/10...-returns-2020/ Rotary/Hybrid is officially returning in 2020!

It's a little 330cc pancake in the trunk that's used as a range extender. More an electric care with a backup.

[jumpman2334]

IIRC, how the (chevy) bolt is setup, it sounds like the new rotary/hybrid will be similar in design.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by jumpman2334

IIRC, how the (chevy) bolt is setup, it sounds like the new rotary/hybrid will be similar in design.

Bolt is pure electric. Volt has a 1398cc motor under the hood hooked up to a generator.

[cdlong]

Originally Posted by S14DB

Bolt is pure electric. Volt has a 1398cc motor under the hood hooked up to a generator.

Pretty sure the Volt is a more traditional hybrid where the engine can drive the car directly as needed. i3 maybe a better comparison though that may be able to transmit torque to the wheels as well, I'm not sure.

Why a rotary though, because it's compact? The emissions and efficiency are both terrible.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by cdlong

Pretty sure the Volt is a more traditional hybrid where the engine can drive the car directly as needed. i3 maybe a better comparison though that may be able to transmit torque to the wheels as well, I'm not sure.



Why a rotary though, because it's compact? The emissions and efficiency are both terrible.

The engine in the volt is not directly coupled to the drivetrain. It is only connected to a generator.


I think the i3 is a good example because the range extender option is a little moped motor under the trunk floor next to the spare tire well. The problem with it is that it’s heavy and loud. Anyone that has cruised on a moped at WOT knows how bad the drone can get.
Going to a little 330cc rotary on its side would be more compact and lightweight. Spin at a higher RPM which a generator likes. Stock rotaries are smoother and quieter than a single cylinder thumping away.

[Dolph_KYAS13]

Originally Posted by S14DB

The engine in the volt is not directly coupled to the drivetrain. It is only connected to a generator.

This is 100% correct. The engine runs at a near constant RPM, like a generator, to power the car most efficiently.

[cdlong]

https://www.greencarreports.com/news...c-hybrid-modes

But while GM hasn't explicitly said so, it's no longer as much of a range-extended electric car (or "series hybrid").

The new 2016 Volt should be viewed as a more conventional plug-in hybrid, with engine torque now being sent to the wheels through a mechanical connection whenever the engine is on.

[exitspeed]

The guy who designed the IDX posted this on IG. He posted a new electric version recently too. Not that it’s ever going to happen but I appreciate that he still loves the design obviously.


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[DRIFTER-M]

This thread always makes me sad over the years. I think the peak/ spilling point was the IDx failure - everything has seemed negative since then. The fact that we are headed to an all automatic future pretty much kills sport cars, and it hurts my heart a little.

[jumpman2334]

that poster in post 11505 looks like some high school kid designed it 5-10 mins before the project was due. LOL


so many questions. lol

[ronmcdon]

The question that baffles me the most is why there is a photo of some man on fashion runway along the sketch of that Lego truck? It makes no sense.

[jumpman2334]

the dude on the runway sort of reminds me of jim parsons at a quick glance (Sheldon from big bang). lol

[ronmcdon]

I think the concept would look better with a giant photo of Jim Parson's face wrapped over the body.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by jumpman2334

that poster in post 11505 looks like some high school kid designed it 5-10 mins before the project was due. LOL


so many questions. lol

Believe me, it’s the IDX designer.

That image is obviously a super rough way of getting an idea “on paper”. The car is dead, but he still likes to fuck with the design because he knows it was so well received. He’s either doing little stuff like this or Delorean concepts.

[collegekid]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Believe me, it’s the IDX designer.



He’s either doing little stuff like this or Delorean concepts.

Yeah I follow him too lol. I legit had 8 grand cash ready to drop a down payment on that idX.

/insert shaking my head gif

Car is still fire though



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[DRIFTER-M]

Originally Posted by collegekid

Yeah I follow him too lol. I legit had 8 grand cash ready to drop a down payment on that idX.

/insert shaking my head gif

Car is still fire though



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I had the money ready to buy too. Such a sad loss, especially with so much hype. I figured I would grab the IDX when launched and sell my s14 I have owned for 13 years in 2023 and get the s15 for my track car. But alas, Nissan ruined that and now I will just keep my s14 (which honestly I have so many memories in it would be difficult to sell at this point) and buy the s15 with the money I would have used on the IDx in 2023.

[ronmcdon]

Not RWD, but I'm really liking the Veloster N. Price point is quite attractive at USD$ 28-30k. and it should be a solid successor to the focus st and mazdaspeed 3.

I just hope hyundai won't screw up lack of supply like honda with their ctr, resulting in offensive dealer markups. I hope it'll outperform the ctr.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...k-test-review/

[LoneStarSilvia]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

Not RWD, but I'm really liking the Veloster N. Price point is quite attractive at USD$ 28-30k. and it should be a solid successor to the focus st and mazdaspeed 3.

I just hope hyundai won't screw up lack of supply like honda with their ctr, resulting in offensive dealer markups. I hope it'll outperform the ctr.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...k-test-review/

I'm going to sound like an old man, but dat 10year/100,000 mile warranty tho!

[ronmcdon]

Right, that totally sweetens the deal!

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

Not RWD, but I'm really liking the Veloster N. Price point is quite attractive at USD$ 28-30k. and it should be a solid successor to the focus st and mazdaspeed 3.

I just hope hyundai won't screw up lack of supply like honda with their ctr, resulting in offensive dealer markups. I hope it'll outperform the ctr.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...k-test-review/

Interesting article. Never been a fan of Velostar looks. The car looks Focus ST size. Also interesting the writer being a fellow FiST owner, and considering that the FiST is considered to be ome of the most fun cars to drive in modern day cars. His statement of like the car, yet he was not shouting to the trees how awesome it was. His enthusiasm seemed reserved. Lol
It does seem like Hyundai is trying to go after both the FiST and FoST. Well as the GTI in one fell swoop. Thats a tall order .
I stll say we have to see on this one and I do admit to never being a Hyundai fan. Thouh I can admit that now make reliable cars.

I still think the FiST is hard to top in shear driving enjoyment. I know former Porsche owners, former Focus RS owners, BMW M3 and M2 owners, WRX STI and EVO owners that all own FiST’s now.
Those are some tall shoes for Hyundai to fill.

[exitspeed]

Supra will debut in Detroit. I'm still planning on going. I have a job floating around that time and this would be the first time 19 years I won't make it.

Also, very excited for the new Mazda 3.
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/11/13/...s-kai-concept/
They just announced the CX5 with the 2.5t in it (same 250hp 310ft lb tq as the CX9 that I have, which is pretty damn quick), and I'm hoping they put it in the 3 and make it a true hot hatch again. Because from the spy shots it looks virtually identical to the drop dead gorgeous Kai concept from last year. Sorry, but none of the mainstream brands can touch Mazda on styling currently.

[ronmcdon]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Interesting article. Never been a fan of Velostar looks. The car looks Focus ST size. Also interesting the writer being a fellow FiST owner, and considering that the FiST is considered to be ome of the most fun cars to drive in modern day cars. His statement of like the car, yet he was not shouting to the trees how awesome it was. His enthusiasm seemed reserved. Lol
It does seem like Hyundai is trying to go after both the FiST and FoST. Well as the GTI in one fell swoop. Thats a tall order .
I stll say we have to see on this one and I do admit to never being a Hyundai fan. Thouh I can admit that now make reliable cars.

I still think the FiST is hard to top in shear driving enjoyment. I know former Porsche owners, former Focus RS owners, BMW M3 and M2 owners, WRX STI and EVO owners that all own FiST’s now.
Those are some tall shoes for Hyundai to fill.

I'm not really sure the Fiesta st really has any meaningful competitor, especially if you can get one at discount. It's a real shame the next model won't get sold in the US (hope the Ford ceo gets his ass fired).

I've been skeptical of hyundai in the past, but I think the veloster n is wonderful step in the right direction. It would not be my first choice if I were to get a fun car, but I also want to acknowledge that they moving in a direction I wish other manufacturers would follow or continue.

No its not the best looking car and I wish there was the i30 N instead, but I also think there's not a huge amount of fun cars under $35k today that has so many positive qualities (stick, lighter, fun to drive, performs well, handles well, etc). That a company still makes a fun car in stick today pretty much is an act of charity.

[[240sx]]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Also, very excited for the new Mazda 3.
They just announced the CX5 with the 2.5t in it (same 250hp 310ft lb tq as the CX9 that I have, which is pretty damn quick), and I'm hoping they put it in the 3 and make it a true hot hatch again. Because from the spy shots it looks virtually identical to the drop dead gorgeous Kai concept from last year. Sorry, but none of the mainstream brands can touch Mazda on styling currently.

I hope your right. I've been waiting for this new kai concept Mazda 3 to come out. We all knew it wouldn't look exactly as the concept car, but I am glad to see it's pretty damn close... and with a 3rd pedal!

I may just attend to LA auto show this year.