240SX ISIS Stainless Steel Braided Power Steering Line Install and Review

[rollout240]

Originally Posted by LayNLow

If your factory line was leaky and the pump was sounding fine and it changed after your install then your pump is bad. It happened to me also. Replaced the pump and all the noise went away. If you have a spare pump try it out. There is NO way you put the hose on wrong unless you either didnt tighten it or you kinked the line. And I am sure they are using the right size line because power steering specific line is only available in -6an.

yeah ill check it out on that one. my old setup wasnt leaking so i dont think it's the pump. although i have no clue what they were using as fluid before. it might be PS fluid instead of the ATF. but good to know or have an option thanks. ill post up results.

[lok]

Originally Posted by MadScientist

I am interested in doing this myself and the info in NJ was great... However, I would also like to do the 2 smaller hardlines on the rack... believe these are for cooling also.

any info on what the thread pitch is on these?

-Drew

an lines for the 240sx power steering and relocation - NJTuners.com

Low Pressure:
EAR-351008ERL 10ft of -8AN Pro-Lite 350, Braided Nylon
EAR-900208ERL -8AN Econ-O-Fit,blue
For the s13 chassis, you'll need two extra fittings. The s14 has a power steering cooler on the low pressure side, whereas the s13 is just a line going back to the reservoir. The cooler is just an aluminum tube that runs across the front of the subframe and back. The s14 can use a hose clamp (econ-o-fit) or whatever, but the s13 needs the following.
EAR-9919EFJERL -8AN to 16mm x 1.5, AN to Metric fitting adapter, blue
RUS-610101 45degree -8AN to -8AN, aluminum, nickel plated
Comments: About 2-3ft of the hose was used. For the s14, you'll need two Econ-o-fit hose clamps. For the s13, you'll need only one. The other end uses the extra two fittings.

[MadScientist]

You really think I am that Dumb.... thank you... no really!

You obviously don't know what "I" am taking about...


Awww the 2 lines in the front look sooooo coool... how cute... But Why did you leave the other 2 in the BACK stock?

Yes... Brainasium... those!!!

-Drew

[LayNLow]

Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

im wondering now, if i should just make a PS cooling system...

would it work if i were to instead of running the line from the pump to rack, i put a cooler in between that feed?

anyone know minimum length to mount the cooler to the say the numper support...?

Put the cooler on the return side. From the hardline return to the front of the car youll need about 4.5 ft of hose one way, 4.5 back. I mounted my p/s cooler right behind the piggy vent and i actually cut it out.
TMS, theres no reason for nissan to make the back lines a different thread diameter/pitch so 14x1.5 should be it.

[lok]

Originally Posted by MadScientist

You really think I am that Dumb.... thank you... no really!

You obviously don't know what "I" am taking about...


Awww the 2 lines in the front look sooooo coool... how cute... But Why did you leave the other 2 in the BACK stock?

Yes... Brainasium... those!!!

-Drew

eh miss read your post.

sorry.

last time i am gonna try and help you.

geez

[lok]

Mine is hitting my waterline from the water neck.

Its not leaking or anything but kind of wish they wouldnt touch.

"you never make them touch"

[DALAZ_68]

Originally Posted by LayNLow

Put the cooler on the return side. From the hardline return to the front of the car youll need about 4.5 ft of hose one way, 4.5 back. I mounted my p/s cooler right behind the piggy vent and i actually cut it out.
TMS, theres no reason for nissan to make the back lines a different thread diameter/pitch so 14x1.5 should be it.

so i make it go...

reservoir>pump>steering rack>cooler>reservoir?

heres another thing...my pump...doesnt have that JOINT-OUTLET piece... ( JOINT-OUTLET,POWER STEERING PUMP - 240SX (S13) 1989-1994 :: Nissan Parts, NISMO and Nissan Accessories - Courtesyparts.com , third diagram part # 49587) ... will this line still work without it...as far as the thread pitch goes anyway?

[Nicelyphe]

Im thinking about getting this within the next week or so, Where can i get that second line at going to the rack, the one that's braided in the picture above from under the car?

[LayNLow]

Originally Posted by lok

Mine is hitting my waterline from the water neck.

Its not leaking or anything but kind of wish they wouldnt touch.

"you never make them touch"

Then figure out the thread pitch/size and an # and order one of these

to replace the straight adapter on your water neck.

[bassboy3313]

Originally Posted by pyshin

Thanks for the link, that really helped.

High pressure:
(2 ft.) 130606ERL -6AN Power Steering Hose (blue Hose)
(2) 139106ERL 90degree -6AN Hose Fitting, Steel, zinc-plated
(1) 9919DFJERL -6AN to 16mm x 1.5, AN to Metric fitting adapter, blue
(1) 991954ERL -6AN to 14mm x 1.5, AN to Metric fitting adapter, blue

Plug in the part #'s (without the "ERL") at AN PLUMBING.COM and it comes out to $59.92 before shipping. Put it together yourself and save around $40. Earl's makes high-quality products. ISIS did come out with a great pre-made product first but this is definitely more affordable

Will these fittings and hose work? They are from racerpartswholesale.com and everything comes out to be even cheaper ($49.36 to be exact). Check it out.

High Pressure:
(2) AER-FCM4032 -6AN 90 degree reusable elbow fitting
(1) AER-FCM2240 -6AN to 14mm x 1.5, AN to metric fitting
(1) AER-FCM2241 -6AN to 16mm x 1.5, AN to metric fitting
(2 ft.) AER-FBC0600 -6AN Teflon Racing Hose

Also, what are the fitting sizes and line size to make the hose from the pump to reservoir braided? I have a spare braided line that was used as an oil return for a turbo that I would want to use for this line. Thanks.

[LayNLow]

Originally Posted by bassboy3313

Will these fittings and hose work? They are from racerpartswholesale.com and everything comes out to be even cheaper ($49.36 to be exact). Check it out.

High Pressure:
(2) AER-FCM4032 -6AN 90 degree reusable elbow fitting
(1) AER-FCM2240 -6AN to 14mm x 1.5, AN to metric fitting
(1) AER-FCM2241 -6AN to 16mm x 1.5, AN to metric fitting
(2 ft.) AER-FBC0600 -6AN Teflon Racing Hose

Also, what are the fitting sizes and line size to make the hose from the pump to reservoir braided? I have a spare braided line that was used as an oil return for a turbo that I would want to use for this line. Thanks.

No! You NEED power steering specific hose because it is rated at a lot of a higher pressure than regular stainless hose.

[bassboy3313]

Aeroquip Teflon Racing Hose

Superior fluid compatibility, abrasion and corrosion resistance for reliable service. Made with an extruded Teflon inner tube that's compatible with a wide range of fluids, including hydraulic brake fluids. The hose has a bright stainless steel wire-braid cover that resists abrasion and corrosion, providing optimum dependability. Applications: Offraod brake, transmission, clutch, gauge, N20, power steering, hydraulic.

-03 specs: 0.14 Hose ID, 0.25 Hose OD, Max operating pressure of 3000 PSI
-04 specs: 0.19 Hose ID, 0.30 Hose OD, Max operating pressure of 3000 PSI
-06 specs: 0.32 Hose ID, 0.43 Hose OD, Max operating pressure of 2500 PSI

This was taken straight off the website. so you're saying that this -6AN hose rated for 2500 psi isnt good enough for power steering? Also, it says it compatible with power steering in the description.

[lok]

Originally Posted by LayNLow

Then figure out the thread pitch/size and an # and order one of these

to replace the straight adapter on your water neck.

i just replaced it with a 90* fitting from an old water line.

Works fine now and doesnt leak or touch.

[bassboy3313]

^^^^^ where did you get your high pressure braided line from?

[lok]

Originally Posted by bassboy3313

^^^^^ where did you get your high pressure braided line from?

mine is an isis line for the power steering.

the one from the water neck is also isis.

I just reused one of my old taka fittings that was a 90*

[bassboy3313]

ok. does anyone who has actually made there own high pressure power steering line have pictures of it installed or peiced together?

is it true that for high pressure a special machine needs to press the fittings onto the hose? cant the pressure fittings and the pressure hose be bought and peiced together just like any other braided line? as long as the fittings and hose are both rated for the correct pressure.

[LayNLow]

I will admit, I did not read the description. But if its good for 2500psi, it should be good enough.
There are different ways to do high pressure hoses. I see that Isis crimped one end and assembled the other by hand(as it looks), some crimp both ends and some go together like regular ss hose.
I know Aeroquip has some high pressure hose and fittings that have a brass ferrule that you slip between the braid and hose, then install onto the fitting itself.
I used Earls PS specific fittings and hose. Went together similar to regular ss hose (I have not assembled regular SS hose before)
Here are a few blurry cell phone pics of the line I made for my high pressure p/s hose.




I dont have any pictures of mine on the car as my cameras are not good in low light areas.

[bassboy3313]

do you know if the aeroquip power steering hose and fittings go together like normal braided lines do or if they have to be crimped on?

[LayNLow]

No idea on aeroquip. Russels has a ferrule that goes between the ss braid and the hose itself, then put together like regular. Earls is similar to regular, just a bit tougher. Just do some research and you should find what you need.

[bassboy3313]

alrighty. ill email the company. thanks.

[bassboy3313]

they said the aeroquip lines go together like normal braided lines do. no crimping necessary. they assemble with hand tools and are perfect for power steering application.

[naibaf]

So anyone have any tips on removing the hard line bracket? I have emissions and a/c in the car still and my gorilla hands won't fit down there. >_<


Edit: I just cut the hard line off then pulled it through the bracket, w00t!

[jonnybonds84]

Wondering how the hoses are holding up for everyone? Anyone experiencing any leaks???

[Flicktitty]

Just posting this in here. I bought a ISIS power steering line for my 2JZGTE 240sx. and installed it last night. WORKS PERFECTLY! no leaks, and it's nice to have P/s again!

the line is about as short as you would want it in a JZ/S-chassis car, but it works just fine.

[jonnybonds84]

I just bought mine, still waiting for it.

[nddavis2]

Ok I'm frustrated as hell right now. Put the isis hose on. Added atf into the reservoir, cut the car on. From here I turned the steering wheel probably 100+ times and the atf still has small bubbles all in it. I was doing this with the wheels off the ground. I cut the car off for a minute then started it again with a puff of smoke out of the tail pipe. Knew that wasn't good so I checked the oil and there's splotchy oil on it like perhaps water in it. I'm going to change the oil tomorrow to see if maybe water got in it and pray no damage was done as the car did not overheat. How in the hell do I get the bubbles out? I know turn the wheel back and forth but why is it not going away?

Ok let me add another detail. I have actually only been able to put in 3/4 of a quart of atf as well. The fluid level is not dropping as air comes out of the system either.

[canx2k]

For those of you who made their own ps line for SR20's, do you mind telling me the proper hose fittings that fit into the PS pump and the upper banjo mounting place (on my NX it's on the psgr strut tower).

Thanks for the help

[TheGrim]

wondering if anyone used a washer on the rack side of the fitting for this line? I used the supplied washer with the kit for the fitting with the small rubber ring that goes into the rack, and re used the copper washer on the factory ps pump with the other fitting. Is this wrong? There is a slow leak on the rack side fitting...

[LaSuperSlow]

going to try to build the p/s hoses(going to use the anplumbing material) for my hicas because i could never find the hose for the rear steering. just wondering on the fitting for the rack does it have to be a 90 degree or can i put a 45 degree(because the one that MadScientist posted in the pic looks like a 45)??? also would the fitting adapters be the same ones since the pump and rack are diffenent from the non-hicas 240's i think they are but just want to make sure before i buy the stuff

[sidedrifts13]

my high pressure line is holding up great but recently my return line has been leaking im thinking of replacing it anybody has any ideas?

Originally Posted by jonnybonds84

Wondering how the hoses are holding up for everyone? Anyone experiencing any leaks???