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Old 02-10-2012, 01:12 PM   #181
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throwback thursdays.. about a year ago.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:47 PM   #182
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update!

finally decided to get an alignment even my ball joints, wheel bearings and steering rack are shot. thankfully i have 60 days on my warranty to fix all this before i get my alignment so might as well.

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all tire co in staten island is awesome if u wanna get an alignment. the rack is in the floor and my car cleared no problem and im tucking 17s in the back so id def. reccomend it.


before specs


after.
all straight. the car drives pretty good despite the clicking from the wheel bearings and the balljoints not being in the best of shape.
(gotta get a pic of the after specs)

and finally something fun. officially the best mod i ever did. picked this up from my buddy 180sxdrifter on here


only con i have is this rail after i bought it i realized is bottom mount and my seat is a sidemount.. so i hadda make brackets. no biggie.

went to my buddy richies house where im getting my seat from


the brackets are pretty tough.. just drilled some holes so it reclined slightly.. other then that everything was spot on.. just about an hour of measuring, cutting and making sure this would work first try.




in love with the seat.. super tight.. i just need another pad for the bottom of the seat if anyones willing to sell one?


this is alot more fun now
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:20 PM   #183
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that is on a track right, like in a tunnel or something? jk man
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:49 AM   #184
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:14 PM   #185
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update time(well not really)

the cars felt like shit for the past month in a half and i havent had much funds to fix it as i just finished paying the last 700 bucks on my lisc after 3 years so im finally clean. the cars been sluggish and my wideband hasnt worked anyway. the car was struggling even to reach 6k on 12 psi.

what was done was to see if any issues cleared up

ohmed injectors ranging from 11.2-11.5
ngk7's gapped at 32
new fuel filter
turbo outlet gasket, dp 3 bolt gasket, exhaust gaskets all around
welded all cracks on the elbow,dp, and exhaust
2 bolts were missing off the elbow so that issues resolved
new sensor for my wideband

still sluggish, afr's in w.o.t reading as high as 16.8, idle is 13.4 and cruising anywhere from 13-15

checked the voltage on the walbro thats not even 10 months old and its reading at idle about 11 volts and as boost is increasing and im getting on the car its hitting as low as 10.2 volts. is this pump fried already?

to see if this would clear it up i temporarily hardwired the pump and at idle the pump was reading about 13.9 volts and now when i boost the car feels insane now. at idle and cruising the afrs remain the same but on w.o.t. the lowest i got was 12.9-13.4 and im assuming thats still a bit too lean right? should i just wire this pump directly anyway and buy a new pump? also what about a fuel pressure regulator like the nismo? this whole boost thing is still new to me so any input would be greatly appriciated.

also i finally got new hubs with good wheel bearings to install during the weekend and hopefully have the steering rack rebuilt as well as hardwiring this pump.

to make matters worse.. what i thought was a bump was really me running over my kouki sideskirt on the highway. -__- if anyone is selling JUST that piece please lmk. im not trying to spend another 400 on a pair of skirts + paint

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Old 03-17-2012, 01:08 PM   #186
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Just wanted to say that I admire your dedication. Just read through the whole thread, it's like a movie! Thanks for the good read!
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:39 PM   #187
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Normally, I just scroll through the pics and stop for text if I see anything interesting, but I loved the stories here! Awesome job, lovin' the car!
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Old 03-28-2012, 11:09 PM   #188
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thanks guys! trying to get some stuff sold

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Old 03-29-2012, 08:41 AM   #189
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awesome build man, I started reading this last night and instantly got attracted to it, very well written and great pics! glad to see another s13 brought back to life.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:49 AM   #190
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DUde you write really well. I've seen your car around, You actually bought that car off my boy mike lol You've done a superb job with it man keep up the good work. You makin NY look real good!
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just read this entire thing during my lunch break. amazing dedication! hard work and patience sure as fuck seems to pay off.
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:59 PM   #192
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hey! the pic with the alignment specs are the BEFORE/AFTER? (ie. -4* on front and back camber, 8.5 Caster)
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:40 PM   #193
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Great build thread man. Hoping to get here one day :>
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:52 PM   #194
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awesome build man, I started reading this last night and instantly got attracted to it, very well written and great pics! glad to see another s13 brought back to life.
thanks! still a long way to go. i just need a daily to do what i really want :/

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DUde you write really well. I've seen your car around, You actually bought that car off my boy mike lol You've done a superb job with it man keep up the good work. You makin NY look real good!
yeah lol after he saw the car again he wanted another 240 and shortly after he bought that s14.

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hey! the pic with the alignment specs are the BEFORE/AFTER? (ie. -4* on front and back camber, 8.5 Caster)
i believe this is the before.. those numbers are so outta wack. i know in the after sheet i was running 8 degrees of caster, -3.5 camber all around and the toe and thrust angle is all set to the center where that green dash is. ill see if i can find it and post it

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Great build thread man. Hoping to get here one day :>
thanks, i hope so too. nothing comes easy but then again thats what makes it worth it all in the end
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:50 PM   #195
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Yeah hes onto a miata now shit is clean too. You went to hescher park that day?
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Sweet build thread man. You covered the ups and the downs of building a car really well and always had your mind set on your goals instead of failures, awesome attitude to have. Willing to learn and not afraid to try is what helps progress people into becoming a well rounded, knowledgeable person no matter what they are doing. Awesome work. I actually like the yellow plate lol. Good luck on future progress and plans with this car. Subscribed.

Oh and the mesh wheels look rad man, I would keep them and refurbish them. My friend refurbished his Advan SA3's by hand over a week or so and they came out awesome. But that's a lot of work lol.

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Yeah hes onto a miata now shit is clean too. You went to hescher park that day?
Miata's are super fun cars. I'm thinking of doing the opposite. Miata to S13. But every time I get the funds life strikes with a vengeance.
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:35 AM   #197
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Looking good Josh Keep it up! If you ever need any help hit me up
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Old 04-07-2012, 09:10 PM   #198
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Sweet build thread man. You covered the ups and the downs of building a car really well and always had your mind set on your goals instead of failures, awesome attitude to have. Willing to learn and not afraid to try is what helps progress people into becoming a well rounded, knowledgeable person no matter what they are doing. Awesome work. I actually like the yellow plate lol. Good luck on future progress and plans with this car. Subscribed.

Oh and the mesh wheels look rad man, I would keep them and refurbish them. My friend refurbished his Advan SA3's by hand over a week or so and they came out awesome. But that's a lot of work lol.



Miata's are super fun cars. I'm thinking of doing the opposite. Miata to S13. But every time I get the funds life strikes with a vengeance.
thanks and yeah thats what im gonna be doing. my friend is gonna be refinishing my wheels but funds are short now so im just gonna take them apart myself and attempt to buff em and paint the faces. im sick of the black. and yeah miatas are cool but just not a practical daily. i fit so much in my car lol

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Old 04-07-2012, 09:28 PM   #199
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in progress update i guess:

ive noticed myself missing gears when i shift that i rarely do which i found strange. it seems like as the weeks go on its just been getting worse. i thought it wals my imagination till i realized theres no clutch fluid in the master cylinder.. no biggie.. refilled it, went a few weeks and same thing. i figured the slave was bad, bled it.. same shit. the car would launch perfectly fine but by the time i get to 4th gear i have absolutely no pedal to disengage.
fed up and tired of the bullshit i figured id down the car for the next month or so. im pretty behind on bills to due certain circumstances and it seems like the headaches keep piling on. aside from that cmc being bad, i have a terrible wobble from the amount of playing in my front hubs, steering my car is like trying to rotate a 40 inch tv in your hand. the pump is fine but the rack is just mangeled. my afr's are also a bit too high from my liking.. it could just be an exhaust leak still from my elbow by im hitting anywhere from 12.2-12.6. im just gonna be smart and get my ecu tuned and fixed the gaskets. brakes are getting spongy too, the bmc is leaking, so that needs to go. and lastly im sick of having no e brake! i need 2+2 cables and the bracket.

id actually like to enjoy this car this summer, be reliable and actually get to do some events and not come back on a tow truck on fire :]

cliffnotes for lazy people:
-im broke, car is falling apart, no $ because life
-want to not drive a shitbox and enjoy it this summer headache free

change/repairing:
-hubs
-steering rack
-rust
-bmc
-cmc
-dp, elbow gasket, dp gasket, exhaust gaskets
-rs enthalpy rom tune
-clean up the wheels

now pictures!

look at the spots and look at this rust -__- i swear this was non existant a year ago




s14 hubs are for sale. id obviously replace the bearings but im lazy and my friends giving me his hubs for free. bearings are 60 each at autozone


delicious.. cmc is just as bad


nyc > where ever you live


outout


out with the old. in with some not broken old


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and prior before i gave up and chose to fix it


ill be updating as the week goes on since spring break is here and i actually have some time to do stuff and i guess money is rolling in. arireese is buying my lip this week
but i have a suprise (kindaobvious) :]
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i just pulled off all my rear z32 ebrake stuff as far as cables and shoes and springs and what not...im going to hydro, message me if interested

Good progress on the car, keep it up, i always like seeing this car...
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:41 AM   #201
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keep up the build man. i know personally times get tough and funds arent always there but trust me dude. it will be worth it in the end. ive been building my coupe for 2 years now and its nowhere near where i want it to be once im finished. i always respect someone that takes the time to rebuild what needs fixed first before buying stupid stickers and shit.
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Amazing build man. You're doing shit right and it shows. Nice to see a real world build instead of a "look at my $5000 in parts that came in from UPS today" build. Slow and steady. And just to state the obvious, you have some REALLY good friends. Subscribed.
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:04 PM   #203
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I'm in the same boat as you trying to get my car ready to enjoy for summer but i don't wanna rush it, i'm just saving up now so i can have it how i want it for the summer times.
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Is all your rust on the drivers side?? Betting that all that leaky clutch/brake aided in that. It's amazing what you've pushed through and not given up, I gave up after half a year and i sold mine over an injector dying....keep it up man.
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Awsome build! Now what does your dad think of the car? I'm sure you've taken him for some rides.
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s14 front hubs can not replace wheel bearings. If you need a cmc for cheap pm me ill hook u up for 25 shipped
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Good god. When I move to NYC I'm not owning a car. Just watching your frame cripple depresses me. I'm impressed with your dedication to the car as everyone else is, but your determination to keep the dream alive. Hats off to you bud.
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keep up the build man. i know personally times get tough and funds arent always there but trust me dude. it will be worth it in the end. ive been building my coupe for 2 years now and its nowhere near where i want it to be once im finished. i always respect someone that takes the time to rebuild what needs fixed first before buying stupid stickers and shit.
thanks i appreciate it!

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yeah thankfully i have some good friends! we always mess around and always trade cars like its no big deal lol

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GL bro!
feel ya on that one!

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Is all your rust on the drivers side?? Betting that all that leaky clutch/brake aided in that. It's amazing what you've pushed through and not given up, I gave up after half a year and i sold mine over an injector dying....keep it up man.
yeah everything on the drivers side.. and honestly it wasnt even there when i bought the car.. my last car was a nightmare and i had to give up on that one.
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Awsome build! Now what does your dad think of the car? I'm sure you've taken him for some rides.
he likes it! he actually gets scared when it gets into the boost. im just like used to it so its like w.e but its funny to see his 200lb body he flung back a little if i rip thru the gears. he just bitches about how stiff it is and how hes too old for that shit lmao

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Good god. When I move to NYC I'm not owning a car. Just watching your frame cripple depresses me. I'm impressed with your dedication to the car as everyone else is, but your determination to keep the dream alive. Hats off to you bud.
lol you be suprised.. nyc isnt that bad and youd be suprised at the scene out here and what people drive. its just how u maintain it really. but thanks!
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some progress today. cleaned up my friends steering rack that wasnt messed up and some parts came in.
new clutch master since the one i have was leaking, as well as a z32 bmc and tie rod boots that wont be ripped and leak everywhere.


this was being a pain in the ass and i dont trust these lines so i just took it off all one piece and put it back together one piece lol

this bmc had a alley key bolt in the middle of the 3 ports so i took it out so it can accomodate the rear brake line.


all in.. just need a z32 fluid cap and finally my clutch engages.


this will be going back in later today.


so far so good. small progress and doing the best i can with the money situation. not to mention i got all that stuff brand new from the mom and pop parts store down the block all for 100 bucks! not bad.
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