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sliknik · 03-20-2017, 10:54 PM

Hi all. Tried searching but couldn't really find anything useful.

I'm thinking of buying one of those LED (not HID) conversion kits for the factory low beam projectors (1997 or 1998 cars). I was wondering if anyone has done it. Anything you can mention or suggest about installing them, how well they fit, do they require any modifications or not, and how good they actually work on ours cars, that would be great. Thanks.

something like this (not this specific kit):
https://www.amazon.com/Headlight-Con.../dp/B01FI1DOMG

ixfxi · 03-20-2017, 11:23 PM

no. just no.

too many reasons to list

sliknik · 03-20-2017, 11:47 PM

dude a simple no isn't going to cut it. state your reasons or don't waste my time.

**ThatGuy** · 03-20-2017, 11:51 PM

I'll help out, just a little. Just adding brighter bulbs does NOT make for better lighting. That's really all there is to it.

To see how to properly improve lighting, check out places like ClearCorners.com that specialize in proven methods of improving light output. Taking 1990's headlights and adding brighter bulbs gives you brighter 1990's lighting and nothing else.

sliknik · 03-21-2017, 12:03 AM

thanks ThatGuy. I mainly want to have a white light so if it's not as good as halogen bulbs it's not really an issue for me.

**ThatGuy** · 03-21-2017, 12:07 AM

It's not a matter of "not as good" as much as it becomes a matter of scattered useless light because the stock projector isn't designed for it. Also, those "retrofit" kits are pretty crap.

There are quite a few threads on here that discuss lighting, options, and negative effects of using crap parts. Have a look around before making your decision.

sliknik · 03-21-2017, 12:23 AM

thanks ThatGuy. I searched but didn't find anyone discussing this. if you can give me a link where people are discussing this, that would be great!

djdryon · 03-21-2017, 12:35 AM

I'm running 4500k bixenon H4R bulbs in euro hella housings on my 92 with popups. No scattered light, great focusing, and never get flashed or pulled over. The most important thing is to make sure you have the right housings, and that your bulbs will line up properly, otherwise you're not going to see any better, and you'll be like one of those assclowns that blinds everyone else on the road and likely gets ticketed. I know that there are a few good LED kits out there from reputable companies like Sylvania, but you want to make sure that you have the right housings if you're going that route, and PLEASE, for the love of God, make sure your headlights are aimed properly.

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ixfxi · 03-21-2017, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliknik

dude a simple no isn't going to cut it. state your reasons or don't waste my time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

I'll help out, just a little. Just adding brighter bulbs does NOT make for better lighting. That's really all there is to it.

To see how to properly improve lighting, check out places like ClearCorners.com that specialize in proven methods of improving light output. Taking 1990's headlights and adding brighter bulbs gives you brighter 1990's lighting and nothing else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliknik

thanks ThatGuy. I mainly want to have a white light so if it's not as good as halogen bulbs it's not really an issue for me.

please dont send this guy over to me. he doesnt want to "waste his time" to research something as simple as why you cant retrofit an H4 bulb into an H1 housing, then he is out of luck. Thats like asking how to fit a 2JZ crank into an SR block, its not going to fucking happen. I am not going to help him out.

there are so many individuals/shops that specialize in better lighting, contact one of them and pay to have your lights upgraded.

sliknik · 03-21-2017, 12:21 PM

Don't worry, I'm not spending $1,200 on a new pair of headlights. I tried searching the forum regarding HID and LED headlights and looked through the results and couldn't find the exact info I am looking for, so I made this thread. I was pretty clear in my first message. Like I said before, if you have nothing useful to say just don't say anything. Simple as that.

Mintyboy · 03-21-2017, 01:09 PM

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=462293

Check out that thread. Hopefully that helps!

EnnEssEnnKAT · 03-21-2017, 06:23 PM

I've got HIDs in my kouki projectors. They are 4000k and crystal white and are bright and good. The LED bulbs are really tricky to get good light output, if you are going to retrofit. I experimented with cheap ones from ebay, but for the price of quality LED bulbs you can get HIDs from ddm for your fogs and headlamps. I didnt/wouldnt go that route. Good luck

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sliknik · 03-21-2017, 08:28 PM

thanks all.

I've seen youtube videos where people put LED low beams in their cars with projector lights that use halogen bulbs and have no problems with those.

EnnEssEnnKAT · 03-21-2017, 08:49 PM

I just don't think they're going to give out enough light output. The led is a very directional light output, look up about how an led emits light. that's why they have leds on each side of those bulbs. If they're not 360 they're not lighting up every direction. The ones I got were 4 sided with 4 leds on each side, and were not bright enough at night to see 20 feet in front of my car. The hids and halogen lights carry out 50-60 feet all day.

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sliknik · 03-21-2017, 09:23 PM

that's one of the things I was thinking about. thanks Enn.

!Zar! · 03-22-2017, 12:28 AM

Do it.

Buy it.

Get it.

You know you want to.

jookybanana · 03-22-2017, 12:52 PM

have you checked philips, or IPF
they make some nice LED replacment OE bulbs
i am not sure what size bulbs S14 uses, but i am running the IPF H4 LED for headlights, and the cutoff is way better than HID, and easy to install, no mess of relay wires like HID's
its pretty much like installing a halogen bulb

http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/78719...d-fog-led-lamp

http://www.ipf-light.com/catalog/catalogLedlamp.php

silviaks2nr · 03-23-2017, 07:59 AM

Get them. They will be awesome!!!

tuzzio · 03-23-2017, 08:02 AM

Non-OEM leds will appear brighter, but will significantly lose distance.

Spend $300 on a morimoto mini h1 retrofit kit, you won't regret it.

EnnEssEnnKAT · 03-23-2017, 08:39 AM

I didn't see h1 anywhere, I wonder if there's a reason for that. those also have "ballast-like" pieces of the wiring harness which are not tiny.

ixfxi · 03-23-2017, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silviaks2nr

Get them. They will be awesome!!!

haha

2017 and people still dont understand why you shouldnt use rebased kits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnnEssEnnKAT

I didn't see h1 anywhere, I wonder if there's a reason for that.

nah, just buy the h4 kit and then modify it to fit an h1 housing. a dremel will fix all that. :-)

Mezcala · 03-23-2017, 09:27 AM

HID is definitely the way to go. Put this kit in my 97 and it looks great perfect clear white and doesn't look cheap or have glare. https://www.theretrofitsource.com/bi...s-stage-3.html

EarlsWorld · 03-23-2017, 10:31 AM

if you want a brighter and whiter light, i would for sure go with an HID kit.

03-20-2017, 10:54 PM	#1
sliknik Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CA Age: 33 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	97-98 240SX LED low beam bulbs Hi all. Tried searching but couldn't really find anything useful. I'm thinking of buying one of those LED (not HID) conversion kits for the factory low beam projectors (1997 or 1998 cars). I was wondering if anyone has done it. Anything you can mention or suggest about installing them, how well they fit, do they require any modifications or not, and how good they actually work on ours cars, that would be great. Thanks. something like this (not this specific kit): https://www.amazon.com/Headlight-Con.../dp/B01FI1DOMG

03-20-2017, 11:51 PM	#4
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 44 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'll help out, just a little. Just adding brighter bulbs does NOT make for better lighting. That's really all there is to it. To see how to properly improve lighting, check out places like ClearCorners.com that specialize in proven methods of improving light output. Taking 1990's headlights and adding brighter bulbs gives you brighter 1990's lighting and nothing else. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

03-21-2017, 12:07 AM	#6
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 44 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's not a matter of "not as good" as much as it becomes a matter of scattered useless light because the stock projector isn't designed for it. Also, those "retrofit" kits are pretty crap. There are quite a few threads on here that discuss lighting, options, and negative effects of using crap parts. Have a look around before making your decision. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

03-21-2017, 12:35 AM	#8
djdryon Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seattle, WA / Saitama, JP Age: 38 Posts: 112 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I'm running 4500k bixenon H4R bulbs in euro hella housings on my 92 with popups. No scattered light, great focusing, and never get flashed or pulled over. The most important thing is to make sure you have the right housings, and that your bulbs will line up properly, otherwise you're not going to see any better, and you'll be like one of those assclowns that blinds everyone else on the road and likely gets ticketed. I know that there are a few good LED kits out there from reputable companies like Sylvania, but you want to make sure that you have the right housings if you're going that route, and PLEASE, for the love of God, make sure your headlights are aimed properly. Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk __________________ Contributions: ULTIMATE climate HVAC LED conversion.

03-21-2017, 01:09 PM	#11
Mintyboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Queens, NY Age: 32 Posts: 84 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=462293 Check out that thread. Hopefully that helps! __________________

03-20-2017, 11:23 PM	#2
ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 82 Posts: 5,932 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	no. just no. too many reasons to list

03-20-2017, 11:47 PM	#3
sliknik Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CA Age: 33 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dude a simple no isn't going to cut it. state your reasons or don't waste my time.

03-21-2017, 12:03 AM	#5
sliknik Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CA Age: 33 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks ThatGuy. I mainly want to have a white light so if it's not as good as halogen bulbs it's not really an issue for me.

03-21-2017, 12:23 AM	#7
sliknik Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CA Age: 33 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks ThatGuy. I searched but didn't find anyone discussing this. if you can give me a link where people are discussing this, that would be great!

03-21-2017, 12:21 PM	#10
sliknik Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CA Age: 33 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Don't worry, I'm not spending $1,200 on a new pair of headlights. I tried searching the forum regarding HID and LED headlights and looked through the results and couldn't find the exact info I am looking for, so I made this thread. I was pretty clear in my first message. Like I said before, if you have nothing useful to say just don't say anything. Simple as that.

03-21-2017, 06:23 PM	#12
EnnEssEnnKAT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 427 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I've got HIDs in my kouki projectors. They are 4000k and crystal white and are bright and good. The LED bulbs are really tricky to get good light output, if you are going to retrofit. I experimented with cheap ones from ebay, but for the price of quality LED bulbs you can get HIDs from ddm for your fogs and headlamps. I didnt/wouldnt go that route. Good luck Sent from mTalk

03-21-2017, 08:28 PM	#13
sliknik Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CA Age: 33 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks all. I've seen youtube videos where people put LED low beams in their cars with projector lights that use halogen bulbs and have no problems with those.

03-21-2017, 08:49 PM	#14
EnnEssEnnKAT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 427 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I just don't think they're going to give out enough light output. The led is a very directional light output, look up about how an led emits light. that's why they have leds on each side of those bulbs. If they're not 360 they're not lighting up every direction. The ones I got were 4 sided with 4 leds on each side, and were not bright enough at night to see 20 feet in front of my car. The hids and halogen lights carry out 50-60 feet all day. Sent from mTalk

03-21-2017, 09:23 PM	#15
sliknik Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CA Age: 33 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that's one of the things I was thinking about. thanks Enn.

03-22-2017, 12:28 AM	#16
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Do it. Buy it. Get it. You know you want to. __________________

03-22-2017, 12:52 PM	#17
jookybanana Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BC Canada Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	have you checked philips, or IPF they make some nice LED replacment OE bulbs i am not sure what size bulbs S14 uses, but i am running the IPF H4 LED for headlights, and the cutoff is way better than HID, and easy to install, no mess of relay wires like HID's its pretty much like installing a halogen bulb http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/78719...d-fog-led-lamp http://www.ipf-light.com/catalog/catalogLedlamp.php

03-23-2017, 07:59 AM	#18
silviaks2nr Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,192 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Get them. They will be awesome!!! __________________ '98 240sx 5spd kouki 2jz t56 swap build

03-23-2017, 08:02 AM	#19
tuzzio Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 2,605 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Non-OEM leds will appear brighter, but will significantly lose distance. Spend $300 on a morimoto mini h1 retrofit kit, you won't regret it.

03-23-2017, 08:39 AM	#20
EnnEssEnnKAT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 427 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I didn't see h1 anywhere, I wonder if there's a reason for that. those also have "ballast-like" pieces of the wiring harness which are not tiny.

03-23-2017, 09:27 AM	#22
Mezcala Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: California Age: 28 Posts: 33 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	HID is definitely the way to go. Put this kit in my 97 and it looks great perfect clear white and doesn't look cheap or have glare. https://www.theretrofitsource.com/bi...s-stage-3.html

03-23-2017, 10:31 AM	#23
EarlsWorld Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: alberta canada Age: 25 Posts: 44 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you want a brighter and whiter light, i would for sure go with an HID kit. __________________ How cool is being cool?