the ban of the hellaflush/stanced modification

[inopsey]

it has begun.......

http://jalopnik.com/the-fascists-in-...car-1609831093

[zooopreme]

Nobody follows in Canada's footsteps. Good luck, Canada.

[Bushido]

Hellaflush is a practice of cosmetic modifications that comes to the detriment of handling and road holding capabilities which consist of:

Lowering the suspension of the vehicle
Installing oversized and offset wheels (offset greater than of the stock wheels)
Installing tires too narrow for the wheels (tire stretching).
These modifications,that affect the geometry of the vehicles suspension, are generally observed by the presence of exaggerated negative camber. This is an overview of the principals of hellaflush and the reason this practice is prohibited.

Yes, they actually used the term "hellaflush." -LOL

[tricky_ab]

Well they already banned RHD cars in Quebec, so this doesn't seem outside of the realm of possibilities. The big ticket grab is going to be "the lowering of your motor vehicle". Even if you're not "stanced", you're still looking at a ticket.

I'm all for getting the unsafe mods, people like to "DIY" on their cars, but where do they stop? Aesthetic modifications? Performance?

[Sumslapper]

Thats pretty ridiculous. Im surprised someone actually looked into this so far, that they understand the whole stance and hellaflush thing. Sounds like an inside job, a rat.

[HeyGirlHeyyy]

I wonder how pedantic they will be. For instance Volkswagen offers lowering springs for their cars that are made by Eibach. I wonder if they would yield a citation or not, being they are a dealership option and have VW markings.

[Matej]

Never heard of anyone crashing their car because of being lowered or having stretched tires or camber. If anything, those things only make one more attentive to the road.
On the other hand, there are countless videos on YouTube of people crashing stock Mustangs because they are not able to handle the power, or of people losing wheels due to improper maintenance, or whatever other silly causes of accidents.

Granted, there are those who run excessive camber and stretch just for the sake of running excessive camber and stretch to the point where it looks ridiculous, and I am sure those are the types of individuals who ruined it for everyone.

[Sumslapper]

What kind of cars are coming out of Canada to give it such a bad wrap? The picture used on the link is far from stretched, hellaflush, or even slammed.

[Bushido]

this looks completely safe to me





So hellaflush style is illegal... does this include Shakotan style? Onicamber? Bippu? is that legal? We need the gov't of Quebec to address Yankii style! and Kyusha? Garuchan style?

[Chaluska]

best thing the Canadians have done.

hellaflush needs to disappear from the car modding world. fucking worst trend ever done.

[FaLKoN240]

Originally Posted by Chaluska

best thing the Canadians have done.

hellaflush needs to disappear from the car modding world. fucking worst trend ever done.

Nothing in your build thread convinces me that you're correct.

[jamg]

The issue for me is the fact 0.0000001% of the population is into this type of hobby.

Making a law that bans those mods really tells me the gov is a poorly run institution.

[Matej]

Originally Posted by jamg

The issue for me is the fact 0.0000001% of the population is into this type of hobby.

Making a law that bans those mods really tells me the gov is a poorly run institution.

Indeed, they should focus on more important issues, such as kids skating on the sidewalks.

[Dolph_KYAS13]

Originally Posted by Matej

Indeed, they should focus on more important issues, such as kids skating on the sidewalks.

and those fucking E-bikes.

Oh what you have a DUI? , No licence? heres a 200 lb scooter you can drive on public roads with a bicycle helmet and no prior training. who needs plates or insurance...

[CoupedupRB]

They are probably sorry. Canada is always sorry.

[living4surf]

canda makes it so hard to not make fun of them. I'm not a "Hellaflush" fan but to actually use the term in a law is just ridiculous and the wording of the whole law leaves it up for to much interpretation

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by Chaluska

best thing the Canadians have done.

hellaflush needs to disappear from the car modding world. fucking worst trend ever done.

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Nothing in your build thread convinces me that you're correct.

so then, what IS good about hellaflush?

its fucking retarded

[Bushido]

this is Quebec guys, when you say Canada... it's a lot different from the french part of Canada, Quebec.

The French are pricks. It doesn't matter which side of the Atlantic you're on.


http://www.cjad.com/cjad-news/2014/0...egal-in-quebec



They should outlaw stickerbombing!

[silviasandbeer]

I'm against hellaflush and everything. I think its ugly as hell and all


...But this is a bit repressive


Then again I'm sure it's hard to drive over all the maple syrup safely in a hellaflush car

[illvialuver]

I see this as being a gateway to ban any lowering of a vehicle there. But then again it's French Canada, which I could care less about. I just hope it doesn't spread to British Columbia.

[tricky_ab]

Originally Posted by illvialuver

I see this as being a gateway to ban any lowering of a vehicle there. But then again it's French Canada, which I could care less about. I just hope it doesn't spread to British Columbia.

Nah, the further you head out west... The less they care about this stuff. Vancity is safe

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by silviasandbeer

I'm against hellaflush and everything. I think its ugly as hell and all
...But this is a bit repressive

wait wait wait.............

you guys need to have a better understanding of world car laws

you want to talk repressive, HAWAII has us beat by a LONG SHOT with the RECON laws they have

other countries may have MOT or other inspections, but I dont know of any that are more strict than hawaii.. you need a permit for ANY car modification you make

and you guys talk about cali...

[solo_ryder]

Originally Posted by tricky_ab

Nah, the further you head out west... The less they care about this stuff. Vancity is safe

True story.

East coast is VI and crackdown central. Ontario is always on the news for stupid import car crackdowns. Not much going on with the west coast, so I guess people are safe here for now driving their shitty nonfunctional "cool" fitment cars.

For now...

And as for the guys making fun of Canada.. Us Canadians just laugh at you guys, most of you have no idea whats going on outside your "bubble" that is called 'murica.

[inopsey]

Originally Posted by tricky_ab

Nah, the further you head out west... The less they care about this stuff. Vancity is safe

i agree with that but once you hit van something in the air makes them stupid again, almost as bad as quebec. bc is one of the provinces that allows the police to seize a vehicle going 50km (31mph) over the speed limit; police get to be judge and executioner without a day in court with that one. bc also allows the crown to forfeit assets without a conviction.

btw quebec is the florida of canada, but full of hot separatist women.

[Matej]

[Bushido]

^LOLOL gold


I'm pretty sure every first world country has inspections and more regulation when it comes to vehicles than North America.

I know that stretched tires and lowered suspension is illegal in Australia.

Japan does shakken or whatever every few years and i hear that it's pretty stringent.

I'm almost certain the Germans have a million rules and regulations in this regard.

As far as North America... Generally, we have what? emissions? I think NY state does a yearly inspection...

Living in Florida...regulations? LOL they don't give a shit about your car's functionality or safety--that's on you. I bet one could register a F1 car here.

[deciplesteve]

Originally Posted by Bushido

Living in Florida...regulations? LOL they don't give a shit about your car's functionality or safety--that's on you. I bet one could register a F1 car here.

This is not a lie. I work in the heart of Orlando and good lord do I see some "Rachet spec" sh!t. Some of it I have a hard time believing it gets them to and from whatever they do all day. Melted springs, -89 degrees of camber, 4" tire on 9" rims... I genuinely fear for my life driving near these tards.

[baube]

all the laws were already here

no stretched tires, no body/frame touching the ground, no tire rubing on fender/body, no excessive camber, no tire poke were allowed before

they just put an article saying what hellaflush is and reminden people that is unsafe ans illegal

nothing new here...

[Croustibat]

Originally Posted by Matej

Never heard of anyone crashing their car because of being lowered or having stretched tires or camber. If anything, those things only make one more attentive to the road.

You don't hear them talking because no one is going to publicly say "hey ! i crashed my car because i was too dumb !" Either that, or they are dead.

doing that ruins handling. You may think it makes you more attentive, but if you need to drive on the verge of losing control to be attentive... well, your problem.

Originally Posted by Matej

On the other hand, there are countless videos on YouTube of people crashing stock Mustangs because they are not able to handle the power, or of people losing wheels due to improper maintenance, or whatever other silly causes of accidents.

Other people being stupid does not allow you to do the same.

Hey, how about making a law forcing mustang drivers and ricers /hellaflushers/stancers/whatever to drive in pair ? Ricer goes first. Mustang goes back. Wait for natural selection to occur and salvage parts.

Originally Posted by Matej

Granted, there are those who run excessive camber and stretch just for the sake of running excessive camber and stretch to the point where it looks ridiculous, and I am sure those are the types of individuals who ruined it for everyone.

Stretch is excessive by nature, and most ultra negative camber cars are that way so that wheels stay in wheel wells. Or because they are so low they cant add more positive camber than -15°.

Neither of these are good.

Long live Quebec !

(TBH you guys are lucky, we mostly can't even change tyre size without being illegal here)

[silviasandbeer]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

wait wait wait.............

you guys need to have a better understanding of world car laws

i suppose your right

i just get a sour taste in my mouth when new laws are implimented or put on a ballot to be, that are aimed at a certain group.
regardless of location

whatever, hellaflush is the equivalent of sagging your pants in prison