Just like an FD3S Mazda RX7

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by dudermagee

off topic, but I'd rather have an s2k

Ditto. Hell, I'd take an S2k over the S-chassis too. The FD's chassis is brilliant. But the AP1/AP2 chassis is just as brilliant and comes paired with a good motor from the factory. No torque down low? I'm ok with that. I'll either get used to it or get a supercharger.

[SlideOrDie831]

never driven an FD but i do know that AP's handle very well.

grip monster.....

[lflkajfj12123]

Originally Posted by MidwestMyriad

Then pull the engine, buy some parts, then realize you have no clue about rotaries and sell the lot for a loss of profits.

I will kill you

[KiLLeR2001]

torque > hp

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

torque > hp

So your vote is for the Z?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by camaro379ss

Every sports car is cramped big deal. Every sports car is fuel chugging. Every sports car is harsh riding. THATS what makes sports cars sports cars.

Ok 7,8,9k etc rpm shifts.....not necessary for daily driving.

Quick start/shut offs prevent them from flooding yes. And normal driving will prevent carbon build up.

I'm pretty sure 2 Seat, 2 Door, FR is what makes something a sports car.

The FD will get exceptionally poor fuel economy, even when compared to 300ZX TT, Supra TT, 350Z, Corvettes, S2000s, Z3/4. We are talking 14-15mpg, not ~20mpg (which is poor by today's standards, even for sports cars). Lots of people also pre-mix to help with issues, and I'm not sure what you mean by "quick start/shut offs" as my understanding, and from experience in my FC is that when you just "kill it" that's what leads to flooding as the excess pressure in the fuel lines over fills it.

Normally a pump toggle switch is used and you just flip it and let it burn out the last bit of gas in the lines or crank it a few times to before giving it pressure again.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by titangts

LOL. yeah, why would anyone want to install one of the best designed motors ever, in one of the best chassis completely perplexes me too!

The FD chassis is actually not much better than he FC. What makes its so light and nimble is the fact that (At the time) the Rotary was extremely light and compact. It places the entire engine behind the front wheels making the car actually "mid engine".

Porsche 944s are built in a similar fashion with a major focus on weight balance. However Mazda used the Rotary with a traditional transmission, putting all the weight in the center. Porsche used a Piston engine with a Audi style transaxle in the rear (like a Corvette) to balance the weight at the ends.

Putting that dinosaur lead weight JZ really defeats the purpose of the FD.

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Putting that dinosaur lead weight JZ really defeats the purpose of the FD.

Yeah, but for some reason, this gets me all tight in the pants...


Handling balance thrown off? For sure. Highway monster? I'd say probably yes. What does this have to do with anything? Not a damn thing.

[FaLKoN240]

Guys, how do I make an orange taste like an apple?

[lilredrex]

imma post on the original topic.......The FD rx7 has arguably(of course) the best handling of any late model import. Rotary motors when tuned well are great ( I abused the crap out of mine and it rewarded me with great angle drifts)
the S13 and S14 are the standard in the drifting world.....long wheel base easy to drift or even grip drive. I think the FD and S14 are smooth and sexy, or if your into the 80s look like I am the FC and S13 are both sharp looking cars with huge potential. bottom line it depends on what you want to do with the car and what your budget looks like. I eat top ramen so i can purchase turbo parts

[FDmuri]

Honestly, i feel that the FD is just as reliable as any other sports car out there. Ive owned 1 FC and 2 FD's . my first FD the only real problem i had that nobody else had was i snapped my doorhandles, i bought new aluminum ones and it was fine. other than that, i blew my Stock rear turbo, my fuelpump,and my headlight wiring was old so that fucked up(but what do u expect from a 15yr old car) Things will break. I've seen people upgrade to "skyline GTR" fuel pumps and they still give out. I drove it in the snow, i drove it to and from work (everyday), and went to drift events anytime i had tires i could burn and nothing ever happened with the engine. i know quite a few people around me that had Sr20's that had more problems than i did. My current FD hasn't had one single problem that my last did welll i take that back. my driver side switch panel cracked then broke (again) whatever it still works. if you take care of it it will keep going just like any other sports car. Take the time to love the car a bit and you will love it everyday..except when u cant find a 10mm socket.
just my $0.02.

[azsr20det]

i like the fd
i wouldnt like the rotary though

[zenki14]

13b swap coils and call it a day lol

[PshNHrd]

I have never driven an FC but when I was looking for one whoever werr selling them are all non turbos.

[!Zar!]

A FD is actually a MR car.

Carry on my good chaps.

[Likethunda]

Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

Apex seals were leaking huh? What were they leaking If you don't mind me asking?

LMAO

i was kinda iffy about that comment as well.. Worn Apex seals = Low/bad compression....

I personally own an Rx8 and know lots of People with FC rx7's and FD rx7's

the 13BRew FD engine isnt the MOSt reliable... because i know people rebuild their engines around 60-80k.... but thats most likely due to the fact that they BEAT THE SHIT outa the ENgine... its a SPorts car.. what do you expect????? especially when rotaries gota be redLined every now and then to clean up that Carbon... know what i mean? probably not.

Mine is 77k miles Strong on First Engine... Just treat it right and check the oil level and it should be FIne

Your Apex wont be "Leaking" hahahaha.....

[WanganNastyMachine]

Originally Posted by !Zar!

A FD is actually a MR car.

Carry on my good chaps.

I hope you aren't being serious, because honestly the engine may be behind the front axel, but as an owner of both an SW20 MR2 and and an FD3S RX7...there is a HUGE difference.

[PshNHrd]

FC turbo II cars are over priced IMO.

[word sux]

99% of people don't know how to care for a rotary

90% of people know nothing about a rotary yet continue to spout off how unreliable they are because they read something that some guy said so therefore it must be true

[WanganNastyMachine]

Originally Posted by word sux

99% of people don't know how to care for a rotary

90% of people know nothing about a rotary yet continue to spout off how unreliable they are because they read something that some guy said so therefore it must be true

I own an FD3S an I think its unreliable as hell, but I do see many many FD owners who daily their cars with maintenance as long as its nothing more then lightly modified.

The RX7 and the 240sx are two totally different cars, They were an almost$20,000 difference in expense in the same year model. One was designed to be sporty (SPORT-TEE, meaning not a 'true sports car') and economic/shuffle secretaries back and forth to work in a attractive car and the other was for pure driving pleasure and in high end sports car quality while sacrificing the economic side of driving.

I dont consider the FD a 'true sports car' either, but I feel its a little more engineered and designed for pure driving.

[!Zar!]

Originally Posted by WanganNastyMachine

I hope you aren't being serious, because honestly the engine may be behind the front axel, but as an owner of both an SW20 MR2 and and an FD3S RX7...there is a HUGE difference.

Cool story bro.

Apples to oranges.

[WanganNastyMachine]

Originally Posted by !Zar!

Cool story bro.

Apples to oranges.

Exactly, so why do you bring it up :P

[97240TB]

To the OP... Just get a non-turbo FC. lol

Save yourself a little cash and put it into the car.

I don't know how anyone could compare a SW20 MR2 to a FD/FC basing the comparison on drivetrain layout even if both cars are "Mid-Engine."
As said... Apples to Oranges.

[!Zar!]

Originally Posted by WanganNastyMachine

Exactly, so why do you bring it up :P

I shared an interesting tidbit of information.

You're the one that started talking about the peasant's Ferrari, not I.

[raz0rbladez909]

Originally Posted by !Zar!

I shared an interesting tidbit of information.

You're the one that started talking about the peasant's Ferrari, not I.

ahahahahhaha

[ILoveJDM]

yep.
500whp
going strong.

bottom line is, if you dont know how to take care of it, youre going to whine on the internet about how unreliable it is. example, i change my oil every 1500km's. the rotary is a very reliable motor, just check the 4 rotor winning lemans.

[GSXRJJordan]

I've owned them all. S13's, S14's, FD3S, Ka's, SR's, RB25, LSx.

If you can't afford an FD, you can't afford it. One of the best handling cars, same league as C5/C6 Corvettes (but 10%-15% lighter), only car that's better engineered from the factory is the NSX.

I solved all the reliability issues real easy, but it's not cheap.


I say forget about FD's until you can afford to do one right, and be happy with a S-chassis that still looks like an S-chassis. Go SR, T28, and enjoy 250hp. It's a GREAT setup.

[WanganNastyMachine]

Originally Posted by !Zar!

I shared an interesting tidbit of information.

You're the one that started talking about the peasant's Ferrari, not I.

Your interesting tidbit of information is semi-correct. I just dont believe its a true Midship car, not by definition anyhow. Dont take any offense to it.

LOL! We call them that all of the time on the Owners Club. I love them though, neat little cars if you learn how to drive them right.

[SlideOrDie831]

13B has to be maintained from day 1. not run it hard then start to properly maintain it two years later. the key answer is "OIL" like any other engine. 13b's eat a quart of oil about every thousand miles.

don't change the oil after 3K miles....you figure it out.

[jspecusa]

Jeff is right, I own both s14 and FD.
save up for the FD, it's worth it.
it's like a European car, very expensive to keep,
not for someone who's poor and work for minimum wage.