S14 -> 350z track edition brakes - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

FinalDrive · 10-16-2006, 10:15 AM

This is for everyone who has PM'd me about my brakes. No custom brackets are needed!
Step 1:
Get 350z or G35 track edition brembo calipers and rotors. You also need z32 conversion brake lines, brake fluid, etc.

Step 2:
Remove wheel, caliper, rotor, and brake dust shield. Don't disconnect the brake lines yet or you will have to bleed the entire system.

Step 3:
Drill out the caliper mounting holes on the spindle. You will need a 9/16" drill bit. This is because the brembo calipers use 14mm mounting bolts vs the stock 12mm. If you have ABS, cover the ABS sensor with something. It is magnetic and the metal shavings will cover it.

Mounting hole half way drilled out to show the difference:

Step 4:
The 350z caliper mounting bolts need to be modified. Basically, the threads stop 1" from the bolt head because the 350z spindle is thicker than the s14's. This caused the bolt to run out of thread before the bolt head bottomed out to mount the caliper. I used a thread cutting die and added 1/2" of threads to the bolt to solve this. You can just get new bolts from a hardware store, just measure thread pitch and length. (Sorry, didn't get any pics of this)

Step 5:
Mount new rotor & caliper. Connect the z32 conversion brake lines to the caliper. Disconnect the old brake line from the chassis hard line and immediately connect the z32 conversion line using a flare nut wrench. Don't allow too much brake fluid loss. If your master cylinder gets emptied, you have to bleed all 4 brakes. Remove the two bleeders from the caliper and fill it with fluid (yes there are two on each of these calipers). Reinstall the bleeders and bleed, starting with the insider bleeder first. (Sorry, didn't get any pics of the brake line install either. I didn't want to get brake fluid/crap on my camera. It's all basic stuff, you've done it before.)

Step 6:
Repeat for the other side. The end.

s13silvia123 · 10-16-2006, 10:46 AM

awesome write up and good work man.

sean350z · 10-16-2006, 10:49 AM

+1 detailed write up with pics is key. too bad the z33 brembos have a huge markup in resale...

PITCH · 10-16-2006, 11:12 AM

Thoes look Tasty...Anyone want to buy my R33 GT-R calipers?

drew935 · 10-16-2006, 03:21 PM

will this fit s13's? I have z32s not installed yet and have a mix match of parts so I'm thinking of a z33 setup.

Finaldrive - awesome setup of wheel/brake combo

wootwoot · 10-16-2006, 04:15 PM

So where the heck can you actually manage to find those calipers for a not ridiculous price? Good show!

slideways2004 · 10-16-2006, 04:23 PM

great write up. badass car

sw20>>s14 · 10-16-2006, 04:28 PM

good right up...what MC are you running?

FinalDrive · 10-16-2006, 04:42 PM

yes they will fit s13 also
just drill out the spindle and handle the bolt situation

i found the brakes on ebay of all places, got em cheap too

i'm running the oem master cyl right now
the 1 1/16" z32 will go on with the z32 rears later

FinalDrive · 10-16-2006, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew935

Finaldrive - awesome setup of wheel/brake combo

thanks
the front wheels are mid disk and barely clear
you can see some paint trading in this fuzzy pic:

TipStylez · 10-16-2006, 05:31 PM

Thats just pimp...time to make some z33/g35 kid crash =] Their mom will just buy them another car who cares. haha

Kouki_2.4 · 10-16-2006, 07:03 PM

+1 for awesome instructions!

nrg · 10-17-2006, 12:42 AM

mark slide squad did this last year to his car.
02+ sentra SE-R Spec V (front brembo caliper) are bolt-ons too.

now someone needs to figure out how to get 300zx ebrake + some new brembo rear calipers to work together. I know STI rear calipers bolt on s13/s14 fine.

vutony · 10-17-2006, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrg

now someone needs to figure out how to get 300zx ebrake + some new brembo rear calipers to work together. I know STI rear calipers bolt on s13/s14 fine.

thats wat i was about to say, can the rear be done?

HyperTek · 10-17-2006, 11:47 AM

thats hawt!!

dam i woulda got flamed for this swap becuase i dont ahve track pics.. =(

ChicagoS14 · 10-17-2006, 12:18 PM

good stuff.... might be my next upgrade when my Z32s arent enough...

upSLIDEdown · 10-17-2006, 12:37 PM

Any idea what they're like clearance-wise (compared to Z32). I would guess they'd have less clearance, but I don't know. Hoping you do. I'm already running a spacer to clear 30mm Z Brakes, (fronts are an effective 9j +5 now). I can't really run any more spacer, so if they have any less clearance, I won't be able to do them with my current wheels (which I don't wanna give up).

wootwoot · 10-17-2006, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoS14

good stuff.... might be my next upgrade when my Z32s arent enough...

They will almost always be enough and if they arent you need to switch pads. You arent going to be doing an endurance races anytime soon right?...

King 240 · 10-17-2006, 01:59 PM

so would the 300zx wheels clear these brakes or are they that much larger then the 30mm Z brakes?

mr_240sx · 10-17-2006, 02:54 PM

do these have more braking power then the 30mm z32? and keep us posted on your rear setup cause im in the same boat as you right now. btw great write up!

OptionZero · 10-17-2006, 03:43 PM

i highly doubt these clear w/o 17's

these brembos + z32 rears + z32 m/c should be pretty good brake bias, maybe a little too much front bias?

wootwoot · 10-17-2006, 05:01 PM

Just use a proportioning valve. Anyone actually needing brakes this size should use one anyway.

Neejay · 10-17-2006, 05:11 PM

Good write up sir.

FinalDrive · 10-17-2006, 05:37 PM

Sorry, I can't compare vs 300zx swap braking

As far as clearance, they appear to have less wheel clearance than z32 brakes, but I haven't done a side by side comparison yet. They also barely clear the 18" wheel. Maybe I can find someone to let me test fit a 17" wheel.

LB.Motoring · 10-17-2006, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperTek

thats hawt!!

dam i woulda got flamed for this swap becuase i dont ahve track pics.. =(

everyother comment does'nt have to be about how you dont track

you bring it apon yourself by posting this all the time.

thats like jumping into a crowd of girls and like "Hey girls, can I hang with you? Oh wait nvm I have a small penis, and just leave"

on topic, your new brakeset up is super sexy, reminds me of the write up they have on the SPL parts archive of this. Keep it up ^_^

*NemeGuero* · 10-17-2006, 07:16 PM

LMAO.. easy Robby..

Damn, those brakes are sex. Look dAMN good behind those wheels.

LB.Motoring · 10-17-2006, 07:21 PM

haha sorry evan, i just saw like 4 posts personaly saying how he doesnt track or something. we dont need to whine here.

OptionZero · 10-17-2006, 09:03 PM

IIRC the 350Z base model 17inch wheels clear the brembos on the track model, so some 17's should clear these

nrg · 10-17-2006, 10:24 PM

more facts into this thread:
350z track rotors: 324mmx30mm
z32 rotors: 280x26/30mm

King 240 · 10-18-2006, 01:14 AM

so looking at a 17'' wheels minimum

10-16-2006, 10:15 AM	#1
FinalDrive Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: GA Posts: 494 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	S14 -> 350z track edition brakes This is for everyone who has PM'd me about my brakes. No custom brackets are needed! Step 1: Get 350z or G35 track edition brembo calipers and rotors. You also need z32 conversion brake lines, brake fluid, etc. Step 2: Remove wheel, caliper, rotor, and brake dust shield. Don't disconnect the brake lines yet or you will have to bleed the entire system. Step 3: Drill out the caliper mounting holes on the spindle. You will need a 9/16" drill bit. This is because the brembo calipers use 14mm mounting bolts vs the stock 12mm. If you have ABS, cover the ABS sensor with something. It is magnetic and the metal shavings will cover it. Mounting hole half way drilled out to show the difference: Step 4: The 350z caliper mounting bolts need to be modified. Basically, the threads stop 1" from the bolt head because the 350z spindle is thicker than the s14's. This caused the bolt to run out of thread before the bolt head bottomed out to mount the caliper. I used a thread cutting die and added 1/2" of threads to the bolt to solve this. You can just get new bolts from a hardware store, just measure thread pitch and length. (Sorry, didn't get any pics of this) Step 5: Mount new rotor & caliper. Connect the z32 conversion brake lines to the caliper. Disconnect the old brake line from the chassis hard line and immediately connect the z32 conversion line using a flare nut wrench. Don't allow too much brake fluid loss. If your master cylinder gets emptied, you have to bleed all 4 brakes. Remove the two bleeders from the caliper and fill it with fluid (yes there are two on each of these calipers). Reinstall the bleeders and bleed, starting with the insider bleeder first. (Sorry, didn't get any pics of the brake line install either. I didn't want to get brake fluid/crap on my camera. It's all basic stuff, you've done it before.) Step 6: Repeat for the other side. The end.

10-16-2006, 10:46 AM	#2
s13silvia123 Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: where waldo is Age: 42 Posts: 3,266 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	awesome write up and good work man. __________________ 18g and 20g turbo users click on me http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/261219-18g-20g-turbo-users.html

10-16-2006, 10:49 AM	#3
sean350z Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 890 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: sean350z Feedback Score: 5 reviews	+1 detailed write up with pics is key. too bad the z33 brembos have a huge markup in resale... __________________

10-16-2006, 11:12 AM	#4
PITCH Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: GA Age: 42 Posts: 1,103 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Thoes look Tasty...Anyone want to buy my R33 GT-R calipers? __________________

10-16-2006, 03:21 PM	#5
drew935 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Silver Creek - San Jose Posts: 996 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	will this fit s13's? I have z32s not installed yet and have a mix match of parts so I'm thinking of a z33 setup. Finaldrive - awesome setup of wheel/brake combo __________________ I'm driving fast -drew

10-16-2006, 04:15 PM	#6
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 38 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So where the heck can you actually manage to find those calipers for a not ridiculous price? Good show! __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

10-16-2006, 04:23 PM	#7
slideways2004 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Age: 37 Posts: 1,706 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	great write up. badass car

10-16-2006, 04:28 PM	#8
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	good right up...what MC are you running? __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

10-16-2006, 04:42 PM	#9
FinalDrive Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: GA Posts: 494 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	yes they will fit s13 also just drill out the spindle and handle the bolt situation i found the brakes on ebay of all places, got em cheap too i'm running the oem master cyl right now the 1 1/16" z32 will go on with the z32 rears later

10-16-2006, 05:31 PM	#11
TipStylez Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 918 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thats just pimp...time to make some z33/g35 kid crash =] Their mom will just buy them another car who cares. haha

10-16-2006, 07:03 PM	#12
Kouki_2.4 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF, CA Age: 40 Posts: 109 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	+1 for awesome instructions! __________________

10-17-2006, 12:42 AM	#13
nrg Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Age: 39 Posts: 1,571 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	mark slide squad did this last year to his car. 02+ sentra SE-R Spec V (front brembo caliper) are bolt-ons too. now someone needs to figure out how to get 300zx ebrake + some new brembo rear calipers to work together. I know STI rear calipers bolt on s13/s14 fine. __________________ driftingisgay.com

10-17-2006, 11:47 AM	#15
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	thats hawt!! dam i woulda got flamed for this swap becuase i dont ahve track pics.. =( __________________ Keep it Classy

10-17-2006, 12:18 PM	#16
ChicagoS14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 695 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	good stuff.... might be my next upgrade when my Z32s arent enough...

10-17-2006, 12:37 PM	#17
upSLIDEdown Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: VA.. And for those that keep PMing me asking what kit I have, it's Origin Stream. Posts: 1,730 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Any idea what they're like clearance-wise (compared to Z32). I would guess they'd have less clearance, but I don't know. Hoping you do. I'm already running a spacer to clear 30mm Z Brakes, (fronts are an effective 9j +5 now). I can't really run any more spacer, so if they have any less clearance, I won't be able to do them with my current wheels (which I don't wanna give up). __________________

10-17-2006, 01:59 PM	#19
King 240 Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: College Station,TX Age: 38 Posts: 449 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so would the 300zx wheels clear these brakes or are they that much larger then the 30mm Z brakes?

10-17-2006, 02:54 PM	#20
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 37 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	do these have more braking power then the 30mm z32? and keep us posted on your rear setup cause im in the same boat as you right now. btw great write up!

10-17-2006, 03:43 PM	#21
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 40 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i highly doubt these clear w/o 17's these brembos + z32 rears + z32 m/c should be pretty good brake bias, maybe a little too much front bias?

10-17-2006, 05:01 PM	#22
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 38 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just use a proportioning valve. Anyone actually needing brakes this size should use one anyway. __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

10-17-2006, 05:11 PM	#23
Neejay Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: lol Age: 38 Posts: 2,586 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Neejay Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Good write up sir.

10-17-2006, 05:37 PM	#24
FinalDrive Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: GA Posts: 494 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Sorry, I can't compare vs 300zx swap braking As far as clearance, they appear to have less wheel clearance than z32 brakes, but I haven't done a side by side comparison yet. They also barely clear the 18" wheel. Maybe I can find someone to let me test fit a 17" wheel.

10-17-2006, 07:16 PM	#26
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 39 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	LMAO.. easy Robby.. Damn, those brakes are sex. Look dAMN good behind those wheels. __________________

10-17-2006, 07:21 PM	#27
LB.Motoring Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SòCal♥ Age: 37 Posts: 5,840 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: LB.Motoring Feedback Score: 1 reviews	haha sorry evan, i just saw like 4 posts personaly saying how he doesnt track or something. we dont need to whine here. __________________ Robby Leuer

10-17-2006, 09:03 PM	#28
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 40 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	IIRC the 350Z base model 17inch wheels clear the brembos on the track model, so some 17's should clear these

10-17-2006, 10:24 PM	#29
nrg Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Age: 39 Posts: 1,571 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	more facts into this thread: 350z track rotors: 324mmx30mm z32 rotors: 280x26/30mm __________________ driftingisgay.com

10-18-2006, 01:14 AM	#30
King 240 Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: College Station,TX Age: 38 Posts: 449 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so looking at a 17'' wheels minimum