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Old 04-10-2018, 06:07 PM   #11281
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It’s interesting that Mazda has been able to dream up unbelievable concept coupes and have knocked it out of the park with every consecutive redesign of their sedans and CUVs yet the Miata, which really deserves the attention, is sort of the ugly duckling of the line up.
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New favorite car.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/aston...-drive-review/

I’ve had my mind made up on an F Type but I might be changing my mind.
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Old 04-19-2018, 05:33 PM   #11283
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So ford confirmed a hybrid Mustang is coming 2020.

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Old 04-20-2018, 11:24 AM   #11284
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https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/20/...rt-400-review/

A glowing review of the new Q60 Red Sport. Just kidding. It’s boring and numb. The soul of the first gen G35 Coupe is totally gone.
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Old 04-20-2018, 03:13 PM   #11285
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$65,000!!!! GTFO!!!!

Mel, the soul of ALL cars are pretty much gone... its what happens when you computerize everything in a car. steering, computer controlled! suspension, computer controlled! transmission, computer controlled! car learns how you drive (instead of the driver learning how to drive the car), computer controlled!

we are well into the age of people wanting nothing more than bells and whistles from a car instead of learning how to tame a wild horse (how most car people refer to learning to drive an R32 GTR).
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Old 04-20-2018, 04:09 PM   #11286
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^^^If this were 10 years ago, I'd swear you were talking about the R35.

Complain as we might about the old ass Z34... It's the only thing they've got left with any soul at all.
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Old 04-25-2018, 08:36 PM   #11288
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surprised no one has posted this yet... and its not a joke


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Yeah that is crazy. The Mustang and Focus will be the only Ford cars. The sedanapocalypse is real.

As a consumer of new vehicles I do have to say it’s hard to justify buying a sedan right now. But I’m not sure I have typical consumer needs. I have 3 kids and need a vehicle I can pack full of camera equipment for shoots. As hard as I tried a sedan just didn’t seem like a good fit. I would have 100% bought the new V60 wagon if it was available when I bought the XC40.
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I just found out today. It is nuts to thing a muscle car and a intermediate car will be the only Sedans Ford has.


Sounds like sedan prices are about to drop then. A sedan is perfect for my life. Big enough for the kiddos and luggage with out guzzling gas like my Silverado.
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I just found out today. It is nuts to thing a muscle car and a intermediate car will be the only Sedans Ford has.


Sounds like sedan prices are about to drop then. A sedan is perfect for my life. Big enough for the kiddos and luggage with out guzzling gas like my Silverado.
The new Accord is Best North American Car of the Year and Honda can't get them off their lots. Although some of us already saw sedanapocalypse coming, it's still pretty surreal to experience. Looks like sedan buyers in the near future are going to need to go luxury.
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still cant believe what ford is doing. I saw it yesterday and couldn't believe it. it seemed like not that long ago auto makers were jumping ship from the SUV trend, crazy to see them jump back into it.


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lots of people have 2 to 3 kids and shit they need to haul around. ford may have a SUV they want to sell you
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You know what I wanna see? A sedan or maybe a wagon with 3rd row seating. And I'm not talking that funky Tesla 3rd row either. But it'll never happen.
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lots of people have 2 to 3 kids and shit they need to haul around. ford may have a SUV they want to sell you
I already have two. Nothing Ford is doing currently interested me enough in any of the segments I bought.
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What scares me is if and when other manufacturers will follow Ford’s example. I wonder who’s next?
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What scares me is if and when other manufacturers will follow Ford’s example. I wonder who’s next?

Could be any of them.


Check this older article from last year


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...017/107395786/


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I already have two. Nothing Ford is doing currently interested me enough in any of the segments I bought.
I figured (I don't care for ford either). just yanking your chain
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Looks like the next one might be GM.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/26/ford...ar-behind.html
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There are some bright spots in the industry.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/26/...lvo-v90-wagon/

Bad ass wagon vs bad ass wagon. 5 years ago we didn't even have a wagon the market.

And this new V60 R Design coming out is just amazing.

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Ya except that new Focus will be a cuv like the Ecopsort.Which I should add is not doing well its just sitting on dealers lots.
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You gotta give Ford props for keeping the Mustang going. Check last year's sales figures. The Fusion, which they're dumping, sold 209,000 units. The lowly Mustang sold only 81,000 units.
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Ford would have sold more mustangs if production of the gt350 was closer to actual demand haha

Its a mystery to me why ford doesnt axe the mustang. It did better in 2015-16, but sales of that model has slumped a lot in general from I think 2007. Unless there are huge profit margins or somehow its regarded as a halo car, it makes little financial sense to keep the mustang. I wouldnt have guessed the Focus is underperforming in sales that bad where its less profitable than the mustang.

Camaro sales arent far behind the mustang, but Im hoping GM wont take such drastic measures as Ford. I would not be surprised if GM was next.
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I had the same thought when the mustang came out with a modern suspension, could be a decent bargain 3-series. But Chevy is already doing it with the Camaro/ATS and it's not going that great. Given the recent news, I think it's absolutely a non-starter at this point.

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2016 sales: 21,505
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Though luxury cars have been fairly resilient amid the drop in sales overall, sales of the Cadillac ATS have decreased significantly every year since 2013, its first full year in production. After selling over 38,000 models in 2013, ATS sales plummeted to 13,100 in 2017. The Cadillac ATS is the only car to appear on this list for the fourth straight year.
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I had the same thought when the mustang came out with a modern suspension, could be a decent bargain 3-series. But Chevy is already doing it with the Camaro/ATS and it's not going that great. Given the recent news, I think it's absolutely a non-starter at this point.

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14. Cadillac ATS
Avg. days on lot: 164.9
2017 sales: 13,100
2016 sales: 21,505
Starting at: $35,495
Though luxury cars have been fairly resilient amid the drop in sales overall, sales of the Cadillac ATS have decreased significantly every year since 2013, its first full year in production. After selling over 38,000 models in 2013, ATS sales plummeted to 13,100 in 2017. The Cadillac ATS is the only car to appear on this list for the fourth straight year.
Yeah but that 2.0 is known to be problematic and I think that has alot to do with it. I was all for buying one as a daily before my buddy had to get his engine replaced at 8,000.
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Bring on the Fairlane! (aka Mustang sedan)

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