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Old 03-31-2015, 06:30 PM   #1
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Possibly being scammed

***UPDATE*** got a FULL refund from PayPal. I asked them if he is getting away with the money and they said they held the payment because I filed the claim so fast.

STAY AWAY FROM NISMOSTATE!!



Seeing that I got scammed. Does anyone know where I can grab a set of these in like new condition. I'm almost desperate. My favorite wheels, they are discontinued and no one has them


ok first off I am posting to get advice from you folks.

I tried keeping his name private but I forgot it was in the texts. His name is NISMOSTATE. Just so everyone is clear I sent it as GOODS/SERVICES
First things first, I bought a set of 18x10 +18 in matte bronze bnib from a seller here whom contacted me from my wtb thread.

We talked for a little and he sent me pictures of the wheels. As seen here:



I said everything looks good I'll send money now. He asked me to send 1200 as "family/friend" to avoid fees. I ended up sending as goods/products to save my ass. 1236.15 is what it came out to. So I sent it.

Now after I sent the money he quickly said we will exchange trade ratings on zilvia and that he will send me the tracking the next day. (Sent he money Sunday evening, so I was expecting a message Monday with details)

I didn't hear anything from him the day I was supposed to receive the tracking. So I shot him a text asking what's up..... No reply. So I waited a few hours. Sent another with no response. Upon waking up this morning I sent him another text. No response. Waited an hour. Sent another. No response. All the while he was showing activity on zilvia. So I sent him a pm. No response.

Long story short. It's been a little less that 48 hours with no response even though he's logged onto zilvia multiple times.
Am I over reacting? I know that when I sell items I'm in constant contact with the buyer.
Let me know what you would do or if I should put in a claim in on PayPal.

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If you made it this far and have a set of these wheels in mint condition I'll buy them. Let me know

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Old 03-31-2015, 06:33 PM   #2
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Old 03-31-2015, 06:34 PM   #3
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Completely read that wrong sorry man,yeah file a claim asap.

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Old 03-31-2015, 06:40 PM   #4
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It's gonna be hard to get your money back because you had did it as a friend. I don't think PayPal is gonna cover you but you can go through your bank and tell them what happened.
I said that I wanted to cover my ass so I sent it as goods/services. I'm covered. I'm just wondering if I should wait a few more days.
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Old 03-31-2015, 07:20 PM   #5
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Old 03-31-2015, 07:41 PM   #6
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paypal - "You can request a refund up to 60 days after you pay for your item."
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Old 04-01-2015, 07:58 AM   #7
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call him. I hope everything works out man. so sketchy.
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:07 AM   #8
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No dude fuck that. Fuck ALL of that. There's no excuse for a lack in communications like that when he's active on Zilvia all day. Get your funds back...
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Old 04-01-2015, 08:59 AM   #9
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Filing a complaint with paypal will get his attention for sure. If he won't be decent and respond to texts or pm's then have the paypal staff do the talking for you.
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Old 04-01-2015, 09:27 AM   #10
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That's been way to long. I'd file the claim ASAP.
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:16 AM   #11
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File a claim but don't freak out.

Sending payment as Goods and Services has saved my ass more then once. Paypal is pretty good about that. So much so that I've heard of sellers being scammed by people accepting the product no signature then saying they've never received it and pulling payment lol.
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i found a picture of "his" wheels uploaded by someone else about a month ago
and one from 2011


http://acurazine.com/forums/photogra...-912827/page6/

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=370506

idk man... looks like he's trying to fuck you
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Old 04-01-2015, 12:26 PM   #13
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i found a picture of "his" wheels uploaded by someone else about a month ago
and one from 2011


http://acurazine.com/forums/photogra...-912827/page6/

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=370506

idk man... looks like he's trying to fuck you
Damn, Dick Tracy. That's some kick ass detective work right there. Zilvia may be full of assholes, but they are some of the best thief catchers I've seen on the internets.
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i found a picture of "his" wheels uploaded by someone else about a month ago
and one from 2011


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http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=370506

idk man... looks like he's trying to fuck you
wow! great job.
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Hahahahahaha greaaaaat. I had a feeling it was to good to be true. 1200 for them brand new? Well thanks for all your input I filed a claim yesterday. We shall see how that goes. That little asshole. Lol make sure no one buys from him.
Thanks for the detective work yomisiu!
I'll update this with the outcome of the claim.
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Old 04-01-2015, 12:45 PM   #16
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In for the outcome. Damn what a piece of shit.
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That's legit a shitty move. Have you snooped around his zilvia profile at all?

Normally when I'm buying something from someone I thoroughly check their previous threads, posts, ratings etc.

I look for unresolved sales or items things that even send off the smallest bit of sketchyness.

Good on you for sending as goods and not as friends/family though. It's WELL worth the small amount of money for not loosing $1200.
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That's legit a shitty move. Have you snooped around his zilvia profile at all?

Normally when I'm buying something from someone I thoroughly check their previous threads, posts, ratings etc.

I look for unresolved sales or items things that even send off the smallest bit of sketchyness.

Good on you for sending as goods and not as friends/family though. It's WELL worth the small amount of money for not loosing $1200.
I did a little snooping but I was so excited that I was getting such a good deal I didn't do it thoroughly.
He has good ratings which sold me. But Ya I will never send anything as friends or family. Not worth it at all.
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Yea man file a claim like right now. I think its a red flag when people ask to send payment as gift. Paypal is like an insurance policy.

Always nice to have the date and username in pics too just so you know its legit.
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i found a picture of "his" wheels uploaded by someone else about a month ago
and one from 2011


http://acurazine.com/forums/photogra...-912827/page6/

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=370506

idk man... looks like he's trying to fuck you
Damn! Good looking out dude!

That's shit. File a claim ASAP. You shouldn't have any issue getting your money back.
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If they don't hear from him by the 9th I get my money back.

Does anyone know where I can get a set of xd9s?? Seeing that they are discontinued and no one has them in stock??
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I found these for you on ebay. 18x10 +18 offset (4 wheels) $1900 lol http://m.ebay.com/itm/291365585582 . Sucks about what happened at least you used PayPal most of the time they resolve it.
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I've gotten my money back from a situation much like this. Will take some leg work with PayPal but keep fighting
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If they don't hear from him by the 9th I get my money back.

Does anyone know where I can get a set of xd9s?? Seeing that they are discontinued and no one has them in stock??
Jesse Streeter...and if you're dead set on those wheels in those sizes then nut the fuck up and find the limited edition Matte Blue ones!
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I found these for you on ebay. 18x10 +18 offset (4 wheels) $1900 lol http://m.ebay.com/itm/291365585582 . Sucks about what happened at least you used PayPal most of the time they resolve it.
Damn. I wish they were bronze. I'm almost dead set on bronze. Thanks for finding these thought. Really appreciate it ��

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Jesse Streeter...and if you're dead set on those wheels in those sizes then nut the fuck up and find the limited edition Matte Blue ones!
I'll pm him. What's his username. I know it's not jesse streeter lol I don't know if I like the matte blue as much as bronze.

Edit. I just emailed him on his website
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Maybe he is on vacation in France

Red light district, bro.
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Maybe he is ded?
He's about to be. I just sent him an envelope full of anthrax and enough asbestos to give him mesothelioma

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Red light district, bro.
Ya he probably laughed the whole way there bc he used my 1200 dollars to pay for it
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I'll pm him. What's his username. I know it's not jesse streeter lol I don't know if I like the matte blue as much as bronze.

Edit. I just emailed him on his website
Jesse is good peoples. Dude...Matte Blue always wins.
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filing a claim was pretty much your only option. getting your money back and letting him chug a dong is a great solution to the problem (and thankfully you were smart enough to ignore his family/friends request and send it as a normal payment). there is ZERO excuses when you buy something from someone to expect ANYTHING less than exceptional communication, regardless if its a $20 set of lug nuts or a $2000 body kit! i answer my emails, facebook messages and zilvia PMs almost IMMEDIATELY regardless if someone has purchased something from me via my business or via personal goods! youre giving someone money to provide you a service and a product. if that service and product are not being delivered, get your money back... simple as that! there are too many broke dick scammers out there who deserve the ass raping PayPal can do to them!
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