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OptionZero · 07-23-2004, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aznpoopy

i think you're getting ahead of yourself. remember sykik was doing calculations for his car which is a s13. most likely the ideal brake bias on a s14 will be different. by how much i don't know.

if running s14 rear calipers and 300zx front calipers was ideal bias for a s14, that would mean that the usdm s14 came with compromised brake bias with stock s14 front calipers; which i highly doubt.

if the front stock s14 usdm calipers were a cost cutting measure, i wouldn't be surprised if they were a compromise...

aznpoopy · 07-23-2004, 04:38 PM

sykik : if it stops raining ull get a decent answer on that this weekend. well i don't have dials so unless i can't get you a very precise answer.

option : true... someone correct me if i'm wrong but having weaker then neccesary brakes in the front is alot worse then having weaker then neccesary brakes in the back. its a recipe for locking up the rear all the time; and the s14 was RWD car marketed to the masses...

from what sykik said ( arigatou sykik - u are a great resource ) it seems 300zx calipers + s14 rears seem to be a great (but untested) combo on the s13. i think us s14'rs will have to figure out what makes for a good combo on the 14 in a similar manner. between some weird combo of s14/s13/q45/300zx i think we can come up with something.

*sykikchimp* · 07-23-2004, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

if the front stock s14 usdm calipers were a cost cutting measure, i wouldn't be surprised if they were a compromise...

They made up the difference with the lower split point in the bias valve of the MC.

CoasTek240 · 08-01-2004, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by aznpoopy

from what sykik said ( arigatou sykik - u are a great resource ) it seems 300zx calipers + s14 rears seem to be a great (but untested) combo on the s13. i think us s14'rs will have to figure out what makes for a good combo on the 14 in a similar manner. between some weird combo of s14/s13/q45/300zx i think we can come up with something.

yeah thats what i'm shooting for. z32 front/s14 rear. its quite simple on s13's to do the rear, just replace the hub with a 5 lug hub from a z32 of s14SE, throw on some s14 rear rotors and your good to go in the back.
then...
z32 setup up front.
i've sourced all the parts except the MC. im wondering what the prices will be like if i went to autozone and checked them out?

aznpoopy · 08-02-2004, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CoasTek240

im wondering what the prices will be like if i went to autozone and checked them out?

mmm just check it out online. it could get pretty pricey if you don't have a core to trade in.

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Originally Posted by sykikchimp

They made up the difference with the lower split point in the bias valve of the MC.

since this thread is back i might as well ask this question:

based on what's been said for s14; would that mean a good brake setup would be the stock rear calipers, 300zx fronts and the MC like option said?

*sykikchimp* · 08-02-2004, 08:50 AM

your gonna have to figure out the stock bias using the stock split point for your car, and then find an ideal setup for you. If you think the stock brakes a have a a little too much front bias, see if you can figure out what combination of parts will allow for about a ~2% additional rear bias..

Var · 08-02-2004, 08:55 AM

or buy a manual bias controller for 70 bucks.unless you would advise against it.?

aznpoopy · 08-02-2004, 09:02 AM

time to read up on brakes and bias... thanks for your advice sykik.

westbor : i'd rather just stick with the basics. simpler the better imo. interesting idea though.

*sykikchimp* · 08-02-2004, 09:06 AM

bias valve's are great when used properly.

*sykikchimp* · 08-02-2004, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by aznpoopy

time to read up on brakes and bias... thanks for your advice sykik.

westbor : i'd rather just stick with the basics. simpler the better imo. interesting idea though.

What year car are you setting it up for? Maybe I can help out.

aznpoopy · 08-02-2004, 10:04 AM

1995 s14, non ABS, 4 lug hubs.

my goal is hpde. lots of stuff to fix before this pos will even pass tech. T_T

sideviewcivic · 08-31-2004, 03:23 AM

sorry to bring back a dead but very interesting thread but has syk gotten an answer from stoptech. Im looking into piecing a very nice brake setup. I have contacted wilwood into prototyping a kit of some form. if not i have a set of massive 4-piston calipers (off a hotrod that ran 1.75" thick 13-inch rotors). if i got with that. definately investing into a proption valve and maybe even tilton floor mounted pedal system

the240sxer95 · 08-31-2004, 03:56 AM

what would be the "ideal" set up for a s14 be?

Rocketbunny240sx · 06-02-2015, 11:35 PM

I got stoptechs on my 240sx they brake so quick if you needa corner or if you needa stop quickly cuz someone cuts you off ( -.-" some retarded people you know, never know what happens) but anyway they are quite amazing just a pain to maintance cuz theres 4 pistons and because its so big its hard to move it around when doing maintance.

Dirk Jan · 06-03-2015, 04:58 AM

It's funny to compare the difference in grammar in technical forum posts between now and ELEVEN FUCKING YEARS AGO.

AzS13hatch · 06-03-2015, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocketbunny240sx

I got stoptechs on my 240sx they brake so quick if you needa corner or if you needa stop quickly cuz someone cuts you off ( -.-" some retarded people you know, never know what happens) but anyway they are quite amazing just a pain to maintance cuz theres 4 pistons and because its so big its hard to move it around when doing maintance.

As much as I would enjoy hearing the final outcome on this... HOLY THREAD BUMP BATMAN!

08-02-2004, 08:50 AM	#36
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 43 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	your gonna have to figure out the stock bias using the stock split point for your car, and then find an ideal setup for you. If you think the stock brakes a have a a little too much front bias, see if you can figure out what combination of parts will allow for about a ~2% additional rear bias.. __________________

08-02-2004, 08:55 AM	#37
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 42 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	or buy a manual bias controller for 70 bucks.unless you would advise against it.? __________________ Hi

08-02-2004, 09:06 AM	#39
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 43 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bias valve's are great when used properly. __________________

06-03-2015, 04:58 AM	#45
Dirk Jan Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: the Netherlands Age: 33 Posts: 143 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's funny to compare the difference in grammar in technical forum posts between now and ELEVEN FUCKING YEARS AGO. __________________ @dedirkjan

07-23-2004, 04:38 PM	#32
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	sykik : if it stops raining ull get a decent answer on that this weekend. well i don't have dials so unless i can't get you a very precise answer. option : true... someone correct me if i'm wrong but having weaker then neccesary brakes in the front is alot worse then having weaker then neccesary brakes in the back. its a recipe for locking up the rear all the time; and the s14 was RWD car marketed to the masses... from what sykik said ( arigatou sykik - u are a great resource ) it seems 300zx calipers + s14 rears seem to be a great (but untested) combo on the s13. i think us s14'rs will have to figure out what makes for a good combo on the 14 in a similar manner. between some weird combo of s14/s13/q45/300zx i think we can come up with something.

08-02-2004, 09:02 AM	#38
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	time to read up on brakes and bias... thanks for your advice sykik. westbor : i'd rather just stick with the basics. simpler the better imo. interesting idea though.

08-02-2004, 10:04 AM	#41
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	1995 s14, non ABS, 4 lug hubs. my goal is hpde. lots of stuff to fix before this pos will even pass tech. T_T

08-31-2004, 03:23 AM	#42
sideviewcivic BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere north of mexico Age: 39 Posts: 356 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sorry to bring back a dead but very interesting thread but has syk gotten an answer from stoptech. Im looking into piecing a very nice brake setup. I have contacted wilwood into prototyping a kit of some form. if not i have a set of massive 4-piston calipers (off a hotrod that ran 1.75" thick 13-inch rotors). if i got with that. definately investing into a proption valve and maybe even tilton floor mounted pedal system

08-31-2004, 03:56 AM	#43
the240sxer95 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2002 Location: cali cali Posts: 1,322 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what would be the "ideal" set up for a s14 be?

06-02-2015, 11:35 PM	#44
Rocketbunny240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: British columbia Posts: 77 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I got stoptechs on my 240sx they brake so quick if you needa corner or if you needa stop quickly cuz someone cuts you off ( -.-" some retarded people you know, never know what happens) but anyway they are quite amazing just a pain to maintance cuz theres 4 pistons and because its so big its hard to move it around when doing maintance.