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Old 11-11-2011, 07:18 PM   #4231
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Ok here is the deal. The guys on here are pretty much the best at what they do, and when someone who knows nothing about welding asks about building a cage...or any safety equipment it makes them angry.
Lets assume for a minute that you know nothing about ballistics, industrial fabrics, or sewing...would you try to build a bullet proof vest and test it yourself? Driving with a poorly designed/ fabricated cage is even more dangerous than with no cage at all, because you have a false since of security.
Cage building is an art. Many hours go into research even before we pick up one tube. I have been welding longer than I haven't and I am still learning every day.
For sure your first welding project should not be a piece of safety equipment.
thank you for not being a dick and getting to the point the way it should be done. i apologize for offending anyone with my dumbass question and my lack of welding knowledge
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:32 PM   #4232
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^^^shut up asshole.

I have no pics but I had to stick some aluminum today. Didnt help it was on top of a sulfur pit. All the reading I did said the final product looks like shit. It didnt turn out too bad.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:11 PM   #4233
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Ive never sticked aluminum. What is it like to weld? I've mig'd, tig'd, and gas welded it. Ne'er stick.

Glad to see some mods took some action.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:32 PM   #4234
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You cant really see the puddle, and it eats the rod up fast.

Had the machine set for 3/32 7018 and left it there for a starting point. Did pretty well with the 1/4 stuff I was welding. First hurdle was I would arc it and pull back and it would go out. I was in a high lift and didnt have a guy on the ground to mess with the machine. I kept screwing with it and finally figured out when you strike the arc you almost had to push the rod right into the weld and stat moving. I though it was pretty cool, id like to try it in a shop or something with a nice clean piece and see what happens.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:40 PM   #4235
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stick welding is terrible. i hate it.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:43 PM   #4236
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I get that you hate it but it is not terrible by any means.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:45 PM   #4237
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Alright alright alright less bickering more fabbing
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:46 PM   #4238
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I get that you hate it but it is not terrible by any means.
it has it's purpose in industrial welding and hillbilly's yards. but besides that, no purpose.
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Old 11-12-2011, 07:07 PM   #4239
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It has plenty of of purpose... Ever try building a crane with 200ft of whip? Try getting wire to feed through that. Not happening.

I love stick welding to extent. Mostly just when it's easy.

Not so much when doing the back side of a pipe with 3" of clearance between the pipe and wall... Using a mirror to watch what you're doing... That's when I hate stick welding... Lol
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Old 11-12-2011, 07:15 PM   #4240
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i don't build too many cranes, just frames lol. close?
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:01 PM   #4241
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:29 PM   #4242
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Uhh wtf is up with the coupler?
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Old 11-13-2011, 08:26 AM   #4243
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the guy i built it for ordered the couplers and didnt get the right one for the maf-pipe.

so i used a random reducer coupler to mock up for him so i could actually build it on the day he wanted it done.
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Old 11-13-2011, 01:55 PM   #4244
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Wouldn't that be a "short ram"?
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Old 11-13-2011, 02:58 PM   #4245
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Wouldn't that be a "short ram"?
it would technically be a warm air. "short ram" would be more of what vettes and some camaros use

ill have pictures of the manifold ive been working on tomorrow
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:55 PM   #4246
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Just finished up a Bottom Mount (Stock Replacement) for the SR20 today!

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Old 11-16-2011, 06:12 PM   #4247
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why does it look like your hot side piping is pvc?
It's not, I just welded a reducer on it instead of reducing it with a coupler.
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Old 11-16-2011, 06:57 PM   #4248
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Just finished up a Bottom Mount (Stock Replacement) for the SR20 today!

prices plese my buddy baught a top moutn twin scroll from u i think and i love the quality ive seen
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:09 AM   #4249
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Doing LS1 into cressida for a friend.
Tunnel I bent up for it.


And the moddified sump to clear the x-member..
X-member is still 100% stock..
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:48 AM   #4250
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Here are a couple items i fab'd up for my z31.

Here is a set of solid aluminum motor mounts that I made for my Z.


This is a custom shift that I made.


Even has hide away storage lol.


And this is a set of motor mount that I made for a guy on a different forum.


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Just finished up a Bottom Mount (Stock Replacement) for the SR20 today!

how much for the manifold without the turbo flange that way when my customer decides what he want i can weld his desired flange
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Here you go guys:

http://zilvia.net/f/forced-induction...lds-stock.html
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^^^^^^^^ Thanks.

The stock replacement hasn't been listed yet, were going to do a Black Friday One-Day Sale on that item at a blow-out price. I will put the flyer up when it's ready, as of now it's $595 shipped in the lower 48 states.
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Finally set my tubing bender up...after buying it in March. Nothing fancy, but here's my first bend.


What are your all's thoughts on bendtech pro? Thinking of picking it up after Thanksgiving.
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QUESTION;

What method(s) would you men use when filling the 3rd brake line hole on an S14?
It has that ovular shape, FYI.

Should I make my patch piece in that same shape and and butt weld it into place?
Would it suck if I lapped welded it?

I assume I should just run tack welds around the piece "jumping around" to keep heat down...
I'm using a MIG (75/25 mix gas) and my material is 22g. Sorry, I'm green at welding.
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Bend Tech goes hand in hand with benders like cookies and milk, or even beer and wings... All things you can't have without the other.
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Surely you're not allergic to beer and wings.... If so, I feel very bad for you, lol
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QUESTION;

What method(s) would you men use when filling the 3rd brake line hole on an S14?
It has that ovular shape, FYI.

Should I make my patch piece in that same shape and and butt weld it into place?
Would it suck if I lapped welded it?

I assume I should just run tack welds around the piece "jumping around" to keep heat down...
I'm using a MIG (75/25 mix gas) and my material is 22g. Sorry, I'm green at welding.
Im not exactly sure how big the hole is your filling, but whenever i fill in holes in thin sheet metal i use a chunk of copper on the backside and just fill it in. the weld metal doesn't stick to the copper and the copper is a very good heat sink. if you go to a welding supply and ask for a copper spoon they should have it or you can do what i did and use a copper mallet. also when filling holes the smaller the wire your using the better.
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