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04-07-2008, 05:16 AM | #1 |
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Engine Build costs?
Iv been trying to price out a rebuild for my SR and was wondering if anyone could give me a ballpark idea on what the costs are for machine shop and assembly work?
So far the parts for OEM Seals/Gaskets/Waterpump with ARP Head Studs and Eagle Rods/CP Pistons is around 1600, I figure closer to 2000 once I throw in an Oil pump and other odds and ends. Im trying to get an idea of what kind of cash Im looking at for Machine shop/ Assembly cost to get all this put together if I decide to do all the legwork myself instead of letting a local shop handel it all. |
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yeah but getting replacement parts for that is going to be a bitch plus your half right, might as well just get a whole new sr and sell your spare parts off of your fucked up engine |
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05-16-2008, 01:04 AM | #7 | |
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I don't get why eveyone says that, I'm gonna actually take some time and post some company names(I won't post link cos tha'd be advertising, just google it) that carry RB parts: 1. NISSAN DEALERSHIPS, mynismo to be exact and they're in duarte, CA. I got my RB20 head gasket set there, they had it in stock!!! 2. RB-Performance 3. Drift Ready performance 4. Mckinney Motorsports 5. Panda Garage 6. NeoTech Imports 7. JDM Garage 8. FRSport 9. ZILVIA.NET FOR SALE SECTION!!!!!! 10. Watanabe 11. the "N" word that end with ico AND THESE ARE ALLL SO-CAL PLACES WITH RB PARTS IN STOCK and if you search popular auction sites and google, there are literaly THOUSANDS of companies online that sell RB parts and that can ship your part within a few days to a week. so that information is totaly incorect Mr. SpoolnSlide Hopefully people realize that this IS on-topic, because like I said its just a less expensive to a costly SR build, EVEN if its not the route that the thread poster will take, this will be usefull info for everyone else. By the way, my buddy just bout an SR longblock with Rod knock and is planing to do a complete rebuild so I'm really interested in your progress and what you found out about companies that can machine your block and head, and prices and such. |
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04-07-2008, 06:33 AM | #8 |
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I'll destroy any RB20 with my SR on .5 bar.
Why the Eagle rods and pistons? S15 rods and pistons are more than enough and will probably be cheaper direct from Nissan. Do the legwork yourself. You'll gain nothing but information and know how out of it and there's plenty of information on the net to prevent you from screwing anything up as long as you follow the step by step procedures, use the right tools and don't get ahead of yourself. If I was going as far as to strip an entire motor apart I'd do alot more than rebuild it with OEM parts but that's just me... |
04-07-2008, 07:39 AM | #9 | |
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uhhhh...... you can try buddy, with your whopping 170hp to the wheels, and my 230 to da wheels on stock boost. oh and now the good part, my motor is more reliable/cheap/waaaaay better sounds too but, just my thoughts I guess |
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04-07-2008, 07:03 PM | #10 |
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Ummm I hate to burst your bubble, but rb25's make about 230whp on stock boost...not rb20's.
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04-07-2008, 07:19 PM | #11 | |
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I think you need to learn "da" correct information also I think koopatroopa might know a little more about SRs than you...just a thought |
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04-07-2008, 09:49 PM | #12 |
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i am doing everything over. i am projecting my build to be 4k. that is mostly labor as i am going either tomei or hks solid pivot, more head work. i already have replacement parts.
make sure you replace main things that might fail; pumps, timing assembly, blah blah blah
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05-05-2008, 04:32 PM | #13 |
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shut your fucking mouth... i have both engines in my garage RIGHT now and the rb20det is way underpowered....
my rb20 lost to a stock sr20.. i havent met a Rb20 yet that my sr20det won demolish |
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04-07-2008, 07:23 AM | #16 |
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Uh not alot cause it's a stock turbo...
You could make more power out of a stock SR20 and a big turbo then you can out of a built SR20 and a stock turbo... |
04-07-2008, 10:51 AM | #18 |
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OEM rebuild is where its at if you're not planning on running like 400hp anytime soon. (yea yea stock motor is rated at 400+) The more OEM parts on a car, the better it runs generally. I too am curious about the general price to have a shop rebuild my head. ( hate doing head work! )
But, prices will vary depending on your location/mechanic. Basically just go to some reputable shops and ask.
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built motor, including assembly parts and everything is around $2500-$3000
Stock rebuild is like $1000-$1500 depending on what you get
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04-07-2008, 07:14 PM | #20 |
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this shop here in LA (r&d factory) quoted me like 1500 for back to stock sr build if i brought them the motor, but that was like 1 1/2 years ago.i dont know how pricing is where youre at but just to give an idea...... oh and rb20s are worthless, go big(25,26 or go home.... just my opinion, don't start a fight over it. he mentioned nothing about buying an rb20 he simply wanted a rebuild estimate for AN SR.
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04-07-2008, 09:48 PM | #21 |
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it costed me maybe a total of $1200-1500 just for rebuilding the motor.
shotpeened rods, CP pistons, completely built head, bc 264 cams, machine work. i need to get new timing and oil pump parts.. KA24De, btw. also keep in mind.. i got really good deals on parts.
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04-08-2008, 12:15 AM | #23 |
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sorry to keep off topic but wow, to the pple who neg repd me, and didn't leave a name, what a buncha pu$$ies, back your shit up b4 you tlk. sorry again, and no, those numbers are pretty acurate unless you're an idiot and don't know how to do a swap. idk about rb25's on an s13 chasis, but yes, stock redtop SR dyno=160-170hp and stock silvertop rb20 dyno= 220-230hp, if you don't beleive me ask otis or josh over a RB-Performance, I'm pretty sure they have dyno sheets. and yes, I realize kooper is alot more knowledgeable with sr20's, I didn't realize that when he said .5 bar he didn't mean stock.
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05-06-2008, 04:10 PM | #26 | |
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Id neg rep you if I could. the op is asking about an sr. No one cares what your opinion is about the RB. Almost everyone has consider almost every possible engine swap. He has his heart set on an sr, so thats what hes goin to do. Your here to talk about the almighty RB20 like it was gods gift to automtives. You dont even know what this guy is using his car, what he wants out of it, or what his budget is. seriously dude your knowledge is overwhelming. OH yea and kouki kan kan or whatever your gay ass name is I have one thing to say to you wtffffffffffffffffffffffff To stay on topic. The best advice I can give you is to research, research, research the most reputable shop in your area. Then again its really not that hard to put a motor together. Try to get some friends together that have had experience with piecing a motor together. If you dont konw anyone, Im pretty sure there are ppl that are local that could give you a hand. Just buy some beer and pizza |
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04-08-2008, 12:17 AM | #27 |
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Depends on how much you want to delve into things.
I just did a rebuild on my SR20 and here's approximately what I spent: -OEM Waterpump: $67 -Circuit Sport Exhaust elbow: $157 -OEM Intake tube: $129 -Exhaust Gaskets: $7.50 -OEM Gasket Kit: $175 -OEM 3-wire O2 Sensor: $57 -OEM Timing Chain: $69 -S14 Upper Waterneck: $55 -OEM Thermostat: $15 -OEM Oil Pan: $55 -OEM Oil Pump/Front Cover: $189 -OEM Oil Pickup: $20 -NGK BRK6 Sparkplugs: $25 -Machine Work (Polished crank, piston ring gapping, head polishing, new crank and rod bearings, cylinder bore, cleaning): ~$350 -CP Pistons: $500 -Seida Connecting Rods: $295 -Vacuum Hoses: $30 -A'PEXi Air Filter: $85 -Taka Turbo Lines: $160 -ARP Headstuds: $113 That comes out to over $2,500 and doesn't include shipping and taxes, plus tools, lubricants, and the money I paid in bay fees a the autoshop. Hope that kinda gives you an idea of how much you're looking at. Obviously, some of the stuff you can save quite a bit of money, for instance, going with OEM rods and pistons, or reusing parts like the current oil pump if it's in good condition. Anyway, I hope that gives you a decent estimate of how much you're looking at. Good Luck! |
04-08-2008, 12:55 AM | #29 |
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if you don't use the right parts, specially exhaust/fuel pump, or don't set the timing/sensors right, have vac leaks or boost leaks, all that stuff makes a huge difference. yes, 215 is what they are rated at, but then again, the rb26 is rated at 287, it puts down round 320-330. and to the guy who neg repd me and said" why would you want extra weight and 2 more cylinders above your front axle" well why don't you go and flame atsuki kuroi for driftin an rb26 s13 at D1, one of the few pple in the world who se a D1 history world record ask him....... and to end this stupid numbers game, I'll post a few links of vids, links to confirm dyno numbers so all you haters can quit being sore losers.
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HEY COCK******(people found the "sucker part offensive lol) i PMD YOU!!!!! AN the WHAT!! i know otis and josh also... you can name drop all you want... doesnt make you anymore legit! explain to me how you go from 287 to 320-330... i didnt know motorsets gained hp on while hibernating in the container on the way over from japan. if im wrong clue me in please id love to know. Im no rb master nor do i care to be, but to my knowledge(correct me if i am misinformed) but Most Full track RB26 s13's done Correctly, Have the engine recessed into the firewall as far back as possible to help with balance, and WHO cares when your making 600whp and you are a great driver. once again i believe he asked for help with a build not a rb20 swap! sorry for turning your thread into an argument! best of luck with your build.
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