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2plus4plus0eq6 · 07-20-2015, 04:51 PM

Hey guys,

I hear this weird ticking noise when my car idles, it clicks quicker when rpms increase but only so a certain point... like 2500.

I googled a crap load and thought maybe it was arching from my plugs. I took all the plugs out and cleaned them, checked them for proper gapping and secured everything back down. It still seems to click. I have even messed with my TPS thinking it was something to do with that.

I am running NGK BRK7E gapped at .028

Is this normal? Any suggestions?

Ilya · 07-20-2015, 06:40 PM

That's typical for a car with vtec.

2plus4plus0eq6 · 07-20-2015, 06:41 PM

I have an sr20. Is that typical then too?

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Beijing_Raccoon · 07-20-2015, 06:41 PM

^Yep.
You didn't even list what car or engine, so the best that can be assumed is something with vtec.

Ilya · 07-20-2015, 06:43 PM

Can you write out the pattern in which it ticks? I'll look it up in my Nissan manual once I know the pattern.

2plus4plus0eq6 · 07-20-2015, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilya

Can you write out the pattern in which it ticks? I'll look it up in my Nissan manual once I know the pattern.

O I don't think I could figure that out. It happens too fast and you can't really pin point exactly where it's coming from.. like which coil pack, etc.

Is it possible that it could be coming from one of the cylinders. Would it be dumb to try and disconnect 1 coil pack at a time to see if it stop the noise or would that cause more problems?

I can try and upload a video when I get a chance

Thanks.

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Ilya · 07-20-2015, 06:54 PM

No no no no I need the pattern spelled out. If you post a video then I would have to inerpret the numbers clicking instead of you, and only the true owner can recognize the pattern.

You can try to disconnect the coil packs but you can never disconnect the coilpack in a consecutive direction: example of what I mean. Disconnect cool pack, reconnect coilpack, disconnect coilpack to the right of first coilpack I disconnected, now I can not disconnect a coil pack to the right of the second coilpack because that ruins the pattern so you have to disconnect to the left.

burnsauto · 07-20-2015, 07:17 PM

http://www.harborfreight.com/mechani...ope-69913.html

Done.

2plus4plus0eq6 · 07-20-2015, 07:18 PM

Looks expensive LOL

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2plus4plus0eq6 · 07-20-2015, 07:19 PM

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Looks expensive LOL

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I just clicked the link... my bad... 4 bucks hah

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2plus4plus0eq6 · 07-20-2015, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilya

No no no no I need the pattern spelled out. If you post a video then I would have to inerpret the numbers clicking instead of you, and only the true owner can recognize the pattern.

You can try to disconnect the coil packs but you can never disconnect the coilpack in a consecutive direction: example of what I mean. Disconnect cool pack, reconnect coilpack, disconnect coilpack to the right of first coilpack I disconnected, now I can not disconnect a coil pack to the right of the second coilpack because that ruins the pattern so you have to disconnect to the left.

Sorry for my Noobness but how would I go about getting this pattern?

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cameronfaley · 07-20-2015, 07:34 PM

On a different story excluding spark plugs or coils... A possible clicking/ticking noise could be a lifter tick. But this early on i wouldn't specifically pinpoint that as your problem.

2plus4plus0eq6 · 07-20-2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cameronfaley

On a different story excluding spark plugs or coils... A possible clicking/ticking noise could be a lifter tick. But this early on i wouldn't specifically pinpoint that as your problem.

Thanks. I'll do some research on that and keep it in back of my mind

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cameronfaley · 07-20-2015, 07:37 PM

Yeah no problem! Good luck to you!

jr_ss · 07-20-2015, 07:45 PM

What motor is this again? S14 VTC? It's your VTC cam gear. You need to replace it.

2plus4plus0eq6 · 07-20-2015, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jr_ss

What motor is this again? S14 VTC? It's your VTC cam gear. You need to replace it.

Ya it's a zenki s14 sr20. You've had this problem before? Can't be fixed, just replace the cam gear?

EDIT: I just watch some youtube videos, and the noise I am getting is no where near as loud as the ones in these videos. Its not a rattle. It literally sounds like a small arching noise.

Does not sound like the VCT rattle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHfdF0aLUrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95qdoK44zQg

burnsauto · 07-20-2015, 08:35 PM

hmm...possibly a collapsed lifter? They can range in loudness depending on how much fluid is left in the lifter.

jr_ss · 07-20-2015, 08:52 PM

Can you take audio of the ticking? It may just be your injectors...

2plus4plus0eq6 · 07-21-2015, 09:27 AM

Here is a video I took of it. I increased the rpm probably no higher than 1500. You can really hear the noise at the end.

Let me know if the link doesn't work - Video

chancelton · 07-21-2015, 10:08 AM

That's a weird tick....doesn't sound like injectors or like it's in the motor either. Good luck with that

jr_ss · 07-21-2015, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by chancelton

That's a weird tick....doesn't sound like injectors or like it's in the motor either. Good luck with that

Great helpful post. Keep posting uselessly to get that post count up, idiot.

It's hard to say what exactly it is. I would say it's more of a faint tapping sound than a tick/click. If you want something to do, check your valve train. Make sure your lifters are bled and the shims are within spec. A bearing on the front of the motor might be going bad(I.e. Water pump, tensioner). There are a lot of things this could be. Replace your plugs, if they have a brown trace mark on the ceramic, they are bad.

I honestly don't think it's anything to cause alarm or worry. These motors seem to have a lot of random noises.

2plus4plus0eq6 · 07-21-2015, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jr_ss

Great helpful post. Keep posting uselessly to get that post count up, idiot.

It's hard to say what exactly it is. I would say it's more of a faint tapping sound than a tick/click. If you want something to do, check your valve train. Make sure your lifters are bled and the shims are within spec. A bearing on the front of the motor might be going bad(I.e. Water pump, tensioner). There are a lot of things this could be. Replace your plugs, if they have a brown trace mark on the ceramic, they are bad.

I honestly don't think it's anything to cause alarm or worry. These motors seem to have a lot of random noises.

Ya thanks for your help. The car seems to drive fine. I do have a new water pump that I could throw on. I'll mess around with it. At first I was really concerned, but now I am over it lol

chancelton · 07-21-2015, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jr_ss

Great helpful post. Keep posting uselessly to get that post count up, idiot.

actually, it was helpful as I stated that I did not believe it to be in the engine or an injector. process of elimination. i dont give a fuck what my post count is, you on the other hand are the "post whore" fucking troll

burnsauto · 07-21-2015, 12:01 PM

I'd get a stethoscope and at least look into it. Sometimes you can catch a little problem before it develops into a big one with a tool like that.

2plus4plus0eq6 · 07-21-2015, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by burnsauto

I'd get a stethoscope and at least look into it. Sometimes you can catch a little problem before it develops into a big one with a tool like that.

Thats a good point. I will try and pick one up. thanks

jr_ss · 07-21-2015, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chancelton

actually, it was helpful as I stated that I did not believe it to be in the engine or an injector. process of elimination. i dont give a fuck what my post count is, you on the other hand are the "post whore" fucking troll

Wow, another educated response, you're on a roll pal.

burnsauto · 07-21-2015, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jr_ss

Wow, another educated response, you're on a roll pal.

If you don't have anything nice to say

jr_ss · 07-21-2015, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by burnsauto

If you don't have anything nice to say

Yeah, yeah...

Try unplugging your VTC solenoid, it's the red plug right next to the throttle body coming out of the head.

kruked · 07-21-2015, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chancelton

i dont give a fuck what my post count is, you on the other hand are the "post whore" fucking troll

Lol. He's a "post whore" who joined at the end of 2005.

Lol, such a post whore, fucking troll!

Sorry, I'm just trolling.

2plus4plus0eq6 · 07-21-2015, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jr_ss

Yeah, yeah...

Try unplugging your VTC solenoid, it's the red plug right next to the throttle body coming out of the head.

I'll give that a try and get back to you. I think I did that once while it was running and it just died... can't remember

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07-20-2015, 04:51 PM	#1
2plus4plus0eq6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Clicking / Ticking Noise.. Possibly arching from plugs? Hey guys, I hear this weird ticking noise when my car idles, it clicks quicker when rpms increase but only so a certain point... like 2500. I googled a crap load and thought maybe it was arching from my plugs. I took all the plugs out and cleaned them, checked them for proper gapping and secured everything back down. It still seems to click. I have even messed with my TPS thinking it was something to do with that. I am running NGK BRK7E gapped at .028 Is this normal? Any suggestions? __________________

07-20-2015, 06:41 PM	#3
2plus4plus0eq6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have an sr20. Is that typical then too? Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk __________________

07-20-2015, 07:17 PM	#8
burnsauto Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 717, PA Age: 38 Posts: 3,324 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: burnsauto Feedback Score: 6 reviews	http://www.harborfreight.com/mechani...ope-69913.html Done. __________________

07-20-2015, 07:18 PM	#9
2plus4plus0eq6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Looks expensive LOL Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk __________________

07-20-2015, 07:45 PM	#15
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,410 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	What motor is this again? S14 VTC? It's your VTC cam gear. You need to replace it. __________________ My SR20VET Does your VTC gear rattle in your S14/15 SR? PM me.

07-20-2015, 06:40 PM	#2
Ilya Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Diego Age: 34 Posts: 712 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	That's typical for a car with vtec.

07-20-2015, 06:41 PM	#4
Beijing_Raccoon Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 29 Palms Posts: 80 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	^Yep. You didn't even list what car or engine, so the best that can be assumed is something with vtec.

07-20-2015, 06:43 PM	#5
Ilya Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Diego Age: 34 Posts: 712 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Can you write out the pattern in which it ticks? I'll look it up in my Nissan manual once I know the pattern.

07-20-2015, 06:54 PM	#7
Ilya Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Diego Age: 34 Posts: 712 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	No no no no I need the pattern spelled out. If you post a video then I would have to inerpret the numbers clicking instead of you, and only the true owner can recognize the pattern. You can try to disconnect the coil packs but you can never disconnect the coilpack in a consecutive direction: example of what I mean. Disconnect cool pack, reconnect coilpack, disconnect coilpack to the right of first coilpack I disconnected, now I can not disconnect a coil pack to the right of the second coilpack because that ruins the pattern so you have to disconnect to the left.

07-20-2015, 07:34 PM	#12
cameronfaley Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Washington State Age: 27 Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	On a different story excluding spark plugs or coils... A possible clicking/ticking noise could be a lifter tick. But this early on i wouldn't specifically pinpoint that as your problem.

07-20-2015, 07:37 PM	#14
cameronfaley Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Washington State Age: 27 Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah no problem! Good luck to you!

07-20-2015, 08:35 PM	#17
burnsauto Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 717, PA Age: 38 Posts: 3,324 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: burnsauto Feedback Score: 6 reviews	hmm...possibly a collapsed lifter? They can range in loudness depending on how much fluid is left in the lifter. __________________

07-20-2015, 08:52 PM	#18
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,410 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	Can you take audio of the ticking? It may just be your injectors... __________________ My SR20VET Does your VTC gear rattle in your S14/15 SR? PM me.

07-21-2015, 09:27 AM	#19
2plus4plus0eq6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here is a video I took of it. I increased the rpm probably no higher than 1500. You can really hear the noise at the end. Let me know if the link doesn't work - Video __________________

07-21-2015, 10:08 AM	#20
chancelton Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: austin tx Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That's a weird tick....doesn't sound like injectors or like it's in the motor either. Good luck with that

07-21-2015, 12:01 PM	#24
burnsauto Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 717, PA Age: 38 Posts: 3,324 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: burnsauto Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I'd get a stethoscope and at least look into it. Sometimes you can catch a little problem before it develops into a big one with a tool like that. __________________