05-17-2018, 12:22 AM | #17671 |
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Wow great words from both of you. Completely right. I honestly didnt think about any of that when i saw the ad. I just was type x aero & rhd & thought to myself “oh, neat” but what damon said is true, its good for guys who just plan on buying a car and not really doing much. I just wonder how much money it actually costs to import a car & find it/do all the paper work etc. after buying the car. If i ever found that out then i could weigh the options. But yeah you’re just paying for convenience.
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05-17-2018, 08:17 AM | #17673 | |
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The only reason I can see someone paying that much for a 180SX is if they intend to leave it alone and keep it as a sort of collector car/cruiser... in which case I personally would want one with the factory aero in place that's specific to the year of the car. I realize not everyone cares about that though- I am a huge nerd. If that's not why you're buying the car, you're basically buying a super expensive rolling chassis (with a completed SR swap granted which definitely has some value being all original and largely hassle free) that likely still needs suspension work, 5 lug swap, wheels, brakes, intercooler, exhaust, etc to be any fun. It's like starting a build like mine with a USDM 240SX, except you paid $10-14k for the starting point vs a $1500 starting point. Can you tell I have weighed all of this out repeatedly? I've been tempted to part out my car and pick up one of these imported 180SXs to have the real deal, but it just doesn't make any financial sense when the cars coming over are this expensive and still need so many parts added to them to be cool. |
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05-17-2018, 08:23 AM | #17674 | |
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How much do you value rhd then? Just because of that one thing. People are willing to pay a premium for a rolling chassis. My friend is buying a 300zx this weekend around the same price from them. 50k miles, mostly oem but all he really cares about is the rhd & cleanliness of the car. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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05-17-2018, 08:29 AM | #17675 |
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I feel that at the end of the day, its roughly around the same price even if you decide to do it yourself. Give or take $1-3k & a massive headache of finding the car and making sure its even good in the first place without a connect in japan. Rather then just buying it from them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Navigating NYC in a RHD car seems like it would be a mess, but maybe not! Like you said, different people value different things. I couldn't afford to build what I have on top of a $10-14k imported car so I've got to stick with what I have. Quote:
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05-17-2018, 08:59 AM | #17677 | |
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Yea we will see how he deals with it, i personally have never driven in or driven a rhd car so i dont know how drastically different it really is but i finally get to see. We’ll have a video coming out after he owns it for a bit & how it is daily driving one. But i also didnt know about other cheaper importers. I’ve only ever seen 10-14k for these cars. I personally myself would pay 10-14k for this car with low miles if it was a 96-98 oem type x because i’ve soley put that much money in my car alone just to get it to replicate that. But very sound comments from all of you & good discussion <3 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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05-17-2018, 09:15 AM | #17678 | ||
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If it comes down to it, I will pay 8-10k for a 180sx, just to drift it, given my pay allows it. There are other chassis's like the s15 but of course that would cost more. When these chassis are gone, I'll leave the scene. I don't think a 180sx is worth over 10k but I think the bubble is good for now. Keeps the new/little kids away from wrecking/destroying any of my potential future chassis's haha.</p> Quote:
Now that I'm back in the states and have a daily driver, my 180sx just sits in the garage and I might take it out maybe once every two weeks. Its not enjoyable, at all, to just "drive." Could be that my car is not setup for comfort though. |
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05-17-2018, 11:40 AM | #17679 |
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For my .2c in the whole USDM vs JDM pricing. I will get a lot of flack but as far as being RHD I think both USDM and JDM cars cost the same. I think JDM cars as a whole are often a lot cleaner than USDM cars, we dont often have many clean OEMish car popup for sale like type x but ever now and then you see a car stateside that is very well built and maintained. Like that chuki Japanese Classic car, I guarantee now on facebook groups, forums, and craigslist you wont find a car like that clean in a USDM car with simple sr swap and aero plus wheels.
Our thread is a good example, most of us with type x chassis have spent upwards 10k and reaching or past 20k I would guess because finding a nice chassis is anywhere between 2-4k, doing an sr swap or boosting a ka is another 2-4k with sub 300hp max, getting a nice set of wheel without tires is 1-2k then you have authentic aero or rep which is anywhere from 1.2k-2k, then you have seats which is 600 on low end for one seat to a pair of recaros for 1.5k, then exhaust, bolt ons, tune little stuff etc... You get the point and if you look for a similar spec car in japan it will be over 10k all day in japan vs here you will have people try sell for somewhat they put into it and done tasteful would realistic sell with an sr swap for 8-11k MAX. I havent seen an immaculate type x car sell past 11k which was my buddies red type x to some michigan guy who flew down to FL. If you look at schassis swapped sr being sold for 4-7k most of them are junk over here and need another 2-3k to be presentable but as far as the current nature of schassis scene people just dont care and ride the car out till something major breaks or the car is FUBAR because "drift car" I know my car with the little ol ka built on topmount borg making 400whp with type x aero and bliz would sadly not sell more than 8k even though i've put close to 20k in it over the 3 years ive had it. If I were to get another JDM car it be an FD, seems like they have a bigger crowd of people who are freaks of doing things nice and keeping it OEM with focus on performance. If its another Nissan chassis it be a bone stock s15 for a daily. Im sure when R34 become legal they wont be priced like the R32s we have now for 15-20k |
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Dude, I know you're new to this but sometimes the naivety is too much for me. The state or country you're bringing it to, the country the car comes from, how you want it shipped (uncovered or container), and a bunch of other shit factors in. A Google search is just about worthless. Bingo. I remember the coolest guy in our town had a RHD swapped Subaru. At the time I think it ran him an obscene amount of money. I thought it was cool for about a week because it was different but you get to the point where you ask yourself...why in the fuck is it so cool. It's not. The bit about OEM nerds and drift nerds is true, too. These companies are selling all their cars at OEM nerd prices. Someone buying their first S13 for $10k+ to drift is going to have a bad time. I spent $5k on my first one and came a few feet from putting it into a drainage ditch. I would've drank bleach if I did that in a car I paid over double $5k for. Quote:
FDs seem to cater to an older crowd and I think that's what saves them. The S13 caters to a broader range, and the S15 here seems to cater exclusively to younger dudes. R34s will never be touchable unless you've been spent the last few years blowing up that resale value like CW Unit. For the record, and this is only my opinion, cars here are definently not cleaner than the US. The only good thing about living in CA was the rust-free S13s. Here in Japan you can bet most cars will have rust somewhere to some degree, and that the car was stored outside. Garages aren't common here. My Type X was coated underneath...another testament to me cashing out any good karma I had left.
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05-18-2018, 08:45 AM | #17684 |
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There is something about a 180sx that's not slammed that looks super cool to me.
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05-21-2018, 05:15 PM | #17688 |
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Really wish I had gotten a picture with my white regas/cr kai before dismounting the tires, but at least got the trust dd on and tucked as high as possible recently Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I'm pretty sure the thread title is read two ways: "Cars with 180SX kouki aero" "180SX cars with kouki aero"
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These are the square g33 so they’re 9j with a +15 offset but I do run a 15mm spacer in the front to make them +0 effectively
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Also, can we make a pact to keep the StanceNation S13 out of this thread?
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