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Old 07-19-2018, 08:32 AM   #961
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So is the Helsinki summit proof Putin got that pee video of Don or is the Don just an idiot? I just don't know any other reason why he'd make himself look like a b**** before the world.
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I just don't know any other reason why he'd make himself look like a b**** before the world.
He's a coward.
He's an idiot.
He thinks it made him look tough & cool.

Do I think he is deeply compromised by Russia? Yes, hell yes.

Do I think it is possible he is simply catastrophically stupid? Oh hell yes.
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Don't pay attention to the smoke and mirrors of Russian. Much bigger fish to fry on the home front

Perfect example of how the well oiled trump machine works. While everyone is yelling about trump and Russia, the U.S. Treasury moves to protect identities of 'dark money' political donors......this occurring the very same day Betina gets arrested (actually within hours).

U.S. Treasury moves to protect identities of 'dark money' political donors
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1K704F


This little nugget dropped late last Friday while everyone was out reporting on trumps private pee pee tapes
White House budget projects $1 trillion deficit in 2019
http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...eficit-in-2019

Party before country and *** those libtards!!! amirite.........
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Oh I saw that as well.

Russians only come up in response to the question above.

Literally everything the Republicans have done in the last 17 months has been bad for this country, in the short & long term.
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To some it's been an on-going theory since 2016 (or earlier), that Russia has something on DJT. This summit (IMO) solidifies this even more that he's been compromised. Additionally, the solo meeting also puts the US in a compromising position with Russia. The US government is lost since no one, other than the translator, knows what was agreed upon with Russia. I wouldn't put it past Russia to have an audio recording of the meeting and quite possibly doctor the audio if needed.

I can only wonder what will be the breaking point to get his supporters to shift their opinion on his administration.
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So.......everyone still on a that trump ship??
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To some it's been an on-going theory since 2016 (or earlier), that Russia has something on DJT.
The recently court filings have given the public some more insight into this. The "Moscow Project" was being done in secret during the campaign. Sure you can say it's part of his private business, but during the campaign there was absolute denial ANYTHING was being done with Russia. Russia was also playing along with this denial the whole time, some might even call it a conspiracy. It's also not illegal to work with Russia, however, this deal would have involved a US sanctioned bank for funding...which is illegal for any US company to work with.

Had this information come out during the campaign, who knows what the impact would have been. It also gives more pause to why the administration was so quick to try to drop/ease sanctions on Russia soon after inauguration.


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Tons of his close associates arrested.
Unprecedented turnover.
Unprecedented time off of 'work.'
A stagnant stock market (something a president doesn't normally have influence over, but his fans love to support his business 'merit').
Also the following is under criminal investigation either by Special Counsel Office, DOJ, NY AG or Manhattan DA :

The campaign
The transition team
The inauguration committee
Private business and charity foundation
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The fact that no one had a red flag go off when djt called on Russia to find HRC emails is telling.

That in and of itself should have raised PLENTY of red flags. When has the US been cozy withe KGB? But yet, you get folks like this below....

It's a very clear brainwashing and a complete irreverence for history and the US/KGB relation and just a decision to be completely ignorant and embrace one's own self bias, although it is seated in a shit ton of falsehood.

But hey, no collusion! NO COLLUSION!!! Pffft.

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So GOP controls House, Senate and Presidency for 2 years, and here we are without a proper budget. The GOP can't even get their own president to sign off on a CR because it doesn't include the wall no one but trump want's built.

So shut the government down right before Christmas it is.

Yep, that is your president. Good work!

Oh and that de-nuclearization by NK that pompeo and trump touted and said all but done...........NK just shoved up two middle fingers and said "Effff youuuu!!!"

Then to piss of a portion of the bass, the trump admin passes a ban on bump stops

trumps charity is ordered to shut down due to allegation of him using funds for his personal benefit

And oh......the SS who are sworn to protect him, will work without pay if the government shuts down tomorrow while trump is vacationing in FL........because trump refuses to sign a CR (which I is some shit to begin with as still no legit budget)

Then you have Mueller hot on his heels with several more guilty verdicts. That is up to 33 or maybe more just the past 6 months.

And this all since Monday. It aint even Friday yet

Yep. What a dumpster fire.
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Still a better president than Hillary would have been.
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Still a better president than Hillary would have been.


Is that the only rebuttal you have?? Sad......

Continue to ride that train! I am sure it will end up somewhere cool at some point this century........
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At some point, this has to become unsustainable for Congress (especially the GOP Senate majority). I don't know what that tipping point would be, but hopefully it won't be something extreme as starting a hot war.
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At some point, this has to become unsustainable for Congress (especially the GOP Senate majority). I don't know what that tipping point would be, but hopefully it won't be something extreme as starting a hot war.
Did you not see Jim Jordan last night?? Yeah, the GOP is well past entrenched and it is now a party of trump.

I feel no remorse for a single one of them. trump's track record should have already been a major red flag and yet, here we are.

The GOP has the house, senate and presidency, and the only thing they have done is
- Literally had every single adult in the room resign and throw up the bird. Current turnover rate is something on the order of 65%+ turnover which is orders of magnitude greater than any administration at this point in time. Worse so, something like 60-80% unfilled roles),
https://www.brookings.edu/research/t...dministration/
- Become Putin little bitch
- Screw trade relations,
- Fuck over instead of properly fix healthcare
- Gut the EPA. Black lung disease for folks in OH and PA who whole heartedly voted trump. There is a current savings portfolio which the .gov is suppose to replenish however it is $4B in depth and runs the risk of growing that even more because they were busy trying to fight off investigation after investigation to re-instate the fund
- Fuck over farmers and pretend to fix it by passing a bill that was already passed,ignoring the fact that farmers have ALWAYS been heavily subsidized by the .gov),
- The collusion investigation with over 33 guilty pleas,
- Have a temperamental SOC nomination, and still not pass a single fucking budget. The one job they have, to pass a budget and they couldn't even do that with control of EVERYTHING! This has been the most inept government in recent history

Yet, I repeat, you have folk (like the picture) stating they rather be a Russian than a democrat and still riding he dumpster fire.......or "butter emails!!"
Faux News is still running "Butter EMAILS!" headlines, 2+ years after she lost.

Yeah, let that sink in....

P.S Schumer is an idiot. And I think Pelosi, although a very capable speaker, needs to work from behind the curtain, and let a new face with no baggage be the face, so yeah. Still nothing like the raging dumbster fire scross the isle.
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At some point, this has to become unsustainable for Congress (especially the GOP Senate majority). I don't know what that tipping point would be, but hopefully it won't be something extreme as starting a hot war.
You will NEVER get a real response in support of this shitstorm
Only "what about..." and the likes
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.....3 partial government shutdowns in less than a year with the GOP occupying the House, Senate and the presidency.

Also, worse yet, Mattis is about to resign. That is some scary shit...

Again, let that sink in.....
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.....3 partial government shutdowns in less than a year with the GOP occupying the House, Senate and the presidency.

Also, worse yet, Mattis is about to resign. That is some scary shit...

Again, let that sink in.....
He's out over early over some statements he made. Trump found his replacement already.
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He's out over early over some statements he made. Trump found his replacement already.
trump tapping someone for a position in nis admin =/= said pick will accept job........unless ambushed like pretty Mickey Rickey Mulvanney

trump tapped 2 or 3 folks for CoS and all turned it down.

Working with the trump admin is like going to play for the Lions. Its where folks go to kill their career....
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Mattis leaving might be the move that spooks the rest of the GOP back into their senses and the fuck away from this dude.
Alas, they're mildly stupid and it likely won't
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Nope.

See lindsay graham......jim jordan.......Fully entrenched and embraced and willing to ride the flaming wreck all the way to end.

P.S At this point, even if the gop changes their tune, they are forever dead to me. Every single one of them that stood behind him is complicit. They knew EXACTLY what they were getting themselves and subsequently the people of the US into, and I refuse to accept they suddenly had a change of heart. Newt and his cronies have been at this for the better part of 2 decades. Shit like this doesn't happen overnight. The very same can be said for the the folks who supported trump willfully with his ridiculously checkered past and shitty rhetoric and a MASSIVE amount of evidence that the what we have now, is the exact outcome they expected because "butter her emails!" or "Owning dem libs son!" Those folks don't just have a change of heart overnight and just like Flynn, they are willing to sell out both their freedom and their own country, if it means it pisses off all the libs.......whatever the fuck that means.

You simply cannot support 1 or 2 of trumps rhetoric (border protection for example) without also supporting the entire flamming racist, masogynistic, incapable, inexperienced, collusion flaming pile. That's just not the way it works.
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Ohhh....And bceause trump is such a POS, instead of waiting for Mattis to resign properly, he has requested his removal by Jan 1!! Just in 2 hours ago

What in the ever living fuck is this.......Literally the only thing standing in the way of Russia, ISIS re-establishment and Chinese hacking, has essentially been removed from office

Yep. To hell with anyone who willfully supported this.......
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Well might as well add this Mnuchin called all the big banks over the weekend jus to make sure they can survive a financial turn down and tweets about it. End results fuels the bears in the stock market to sell sell sell. Causing this to be the worst Christsmas Eve on record.
These phone calls were done at Trumps suggestion.

I am hoping wrecking the economy completely is not what it takes to get these idiots out of office.
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So what happened to all the Zilvia trump supporters? I am genuinely curious to hear how or if your stance has changed any and why.

This time last year, this thread hosted a overwhelming amount of trump support, but have since remained very quiet...
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So what happened to all the Zilvia trump supporters? I am genuinely curious to hear how or if your stance has changed any and why.

This time last year, this thread hosted a overwhelming amount of trump support, but have since remained very quiet...
I've just reread this whole thread. 240s are a very California thing and California has always been extremely left. It's not shocking to see a 240 forum poll lean left. Try this on a Camaro forum. Would you be surprised to see a poll lean right? Of course not!


99% of this thread is just you, Philip, and gbaby stroking each other off about everything going wrong. Reread this thread and correct me if I'm wrong.
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