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09-24-2013, 02:06 AM | #92 | |
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Titanium would be much better, hit it fast enough and you could give a spark show.
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i cannot believe this thread exists... its an embarrassment to the community. wood has no place on a modern car, period. |
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No, 240's are NOT "modern" cars in stock form. The truth is that most of us are modifying them with a modern STYLE though. There aren't too many old-school style 240's out there... |
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09-24-2013, 12:02 PM | #100 |
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hit the nail on the head. the car itself is not "modern", but when you are styling and upgrading your car with parts that are "in" right now so to speak, you are making it "modern"
I don't care how much people want to bash this thread, there has actually been some good info to read in here. |
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on a more serious note, if you are actually serious why dont you guys do what corvette owners have been doing for years. They have plates with little wheels on them to roll up driveways etc. They also have ones called "fangs".
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Marine birch plywood is just fine for a splitter. A layer of fiberglass over it stiffens it right up, but if you don't care about another 7-10 lbs, you can just go with a thicker piece of plywood to get the stiffness fine.
The stress a splitter is subjected to isn't that high. I've seen some flimsy shit last just fine on some pretty quick race cars. And an aluminum sheet is a stupid idea for a splitter - it would weigh a metric asston to get enough stiffness in bending for a splitter.
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Adding a layer of fiberglass for stiffness is a good idea. Using the treated marine birch wood is also good. Both of those would help with dry-rot/moisture absorbtion as well as stiffness. My biggest issue with plywood is that it's so damned thick and heavy. I prefer a splitter that actually SPLITS the airflow rather than just bludgening it in half. Also the wear would be a concern for me. I would be worried about taking chunks out of it or the layers de-laminating over time. A thin treated hardwood wrapped with fiberglass actually sounds pretty proper I might just steal that idea when the time comes! |
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09-24-2013, 07:14 PM | #107 | |
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which is why i posted the links about the splinter supercar. laminated veneer loomed like on that car has a higher strength to weight ratio than steel or aluminum. and it can be molded or shaped much the same way as carbon fiber.
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Yeah, great. I bet it costs 10x as much as just using carbon fiber as well. That car was made for oil sheiks with more money than is possible to count. Basically a giant artifical penis for all to behold. Jabroc is also a wood product. I LOVE Jabroc. It is quite a stretch to attempt to compare either of those wood products to regular old 1/2" plywood.
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Good ones bolt to the rod brackets then curve later to deflect a bash down away. not right into the pan. That thing is thin as hell too. I like the PSM SP. http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/page.php?13
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I don't know why they did it like that. There ARE mounting points SPECIFICALLY FOR an underpanel on the tension rod brackets... |
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you can make a light and functional front splitter using cheap materials, as long as you know some materials and how to use them...
you can buy foam sheets from composite stores, that can be shaped using simple tools like a saw and some big grit sandpapers, and overlay that with tightly woven fiberglass, 2-3 layers with different directions on the weave, and then paint the whole thing black... the only thing you have to be careful with this, is you gotta make bigger metal mounts ,cause concentrated forces like one scew, might crush the foam between the fiberglass layers. i dont mention kevlar or carbon, though kevlar is the ideal for this place, cause cost is too damn high... as for jabroc etc, they say it has weight to strength ratio better than steel, but you gotta use like a 1 inch thick plate, while if you made it from steel you would use 2mm... |
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Maybe it won't stiffen your chassis like they say but it sure as hell is going to be better than pavement directly to oil pan which is what they are designed to prevent. If you hit a speedbump at speed sure this won't do jack shit but become another thing you need to take off or bend back when pulling the car up onto a wrecker but that is the least of your issues then.
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I agree you need to profile the splitter, but the flow separation isn't that bad with a square front (see CoT splitters). I plan to do a 1/4" birch plywood and at least 1 layer of FG for my next splitter. It's hard to find weight estimates of the birch plywood though, so I'm still debating an alumalite splitter. But as far as durability goes - alumalite is NOT that durable. If you bend it with an off, it's very difficult to straighten it back out well. It also tends to "kink" or buckle when bent due to all the stiffness coming from the aluminum sheets on the outside. Quote:
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My local big box stores all sell birch plywood as well.
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Never hydroplaned. edit: checked the URL. excellent.
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whats your vector, Victor? Birch plywood is good for cabinets, thats what I used in my garage. Havent you morons learned anything yet? Steel plate is the ONLY solution here. I can tell you from first-hand experience, that they used steel plate in practically every episode of the A-Team when they had to make their vehicle bullet & explosion proof. Def, I'm starting to question your engineering qualifications. In fact, I'm certainly glad I did not purchase that big brake kit you and Yates were selling. Birch for splitters... pssh. Whats next, are people going to remove their SR20DETs in favor for USDM V8s? I think not. Besides, dont you guys know that pushrods are ancient 1920 technology? |
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