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Old 01-16-2013, 12:42 PM   #1
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Auto to 5 speed swap. what random things did you need?

Hi,

I will be doing a 5 speed conversion on my auto in the coming few weeks (still in the gathering parts phase) and would like to know from people what random things did you need to run out to get?

I ask because I just got my clutch kit in (exedy oem) and it did not come with the pressure plate bolts. My other two (aftermarket) kits did come with those bolts.

So I'm wondering what else people have needed to get.

For reference, here are the links I will be using to perform the swap:

http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/387225...-progress.html
How To: 5 Speed Swap in Convertibles (and other S13s) : 240SX Convertible Forum

And here is my part list of "major" mechanical components.

5 speed swap list:

-5 spd tranny
-5 spd driveshaft
-shift knob

In engine bay:
-clutch master cylinder
-clutch slave cylinder
-Clutch line ( conversion line from FR sport)

Inside tranny:
-Flywheel+resurface
-Flywheel bolts
-Exedy oem clutch kit

Outside tranny:
Engine to trans dust plate
-5 spd tranny crossmember
-5 spd drift freq tranny mount

Inside cabin:
-Rubber Trans Dust Cover
-Rubber Trans boot & finisher ring
Clutch pedal
*Brake pedal $60

if you care, the parts with a dash next to them I have, and the brake pedal is optional (not sure if I want to just cut it to make the install go faster). Also I know I need tranny oil and its not on the list. I'm planning on running redline 75w-90 ( i think that's the weight, I use it in my datsun)

Also if anyone knows, I would like to know the size of the pressure plate bolts so I could go get some before I start.
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I dont see a pilot bearing. Also the bellhousing bolts are different from auto. Electrical tape and or solder. Oh and throw out bearing/clutch fork
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Pilot bearing and throwout bearing are included in clutch kit, sorry for any confusion.

Fuck I will need a fork, totally forgot about that.

For the bell housing bolts, I'm assuming just length is different, which I will need do when I'm test fitting the tranny. Local bolt store literally about a mile away from my house.
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Yup just different lengths.
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Pilot bearing and throwout bearing are included in clutch kit, sorry for any confusion.

Fuck I will need a fork, totally forgot about that.

For the bell housing bolts, I'm assuming just length is different, which I will need do when I'm test fitting the tranny. Local bolt store literally about a mile away from my house.
Just cut the brake pedal. You will also need a hole saw to cut out where the clutch master goes. There is also a mounting tab/spacer that is spot welded to the clutch master opening to allow the pedal to bolt up. You need to pull one of those off a manual trans doner car in some cases, also a shifter assem, most trans's don't have them installed still

Also a speed sensor for a manual trans, the auto doesn't work
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There is also a mounting tab/spacer that is spot welded to the clutch master opening to allow the pedal to bolt up. You need to pull one of those off a manual trans doner car in some cases.
If you have an S13 clutch pedal and an S13 car, all you have to do is drill the three holes (two bolt holes and the pass through hole) and mount the pedal to the car. I've done the swap multiple times, never had to do anything else.
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Also, only use a GL-4 compatible gear oil for the transmission. You can use GL-5 for the diff, but not the transmission (unless it meets GL-4 as well... some meet both). I know a lot of Redline gear oil is GL-5 only, and it will eat away at your synchros.
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new slave cylinder is a good thing to replace to wire for the neutral safety switch
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