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Xxs13240xX · 08-14-2011, 07:10 PM

First of all I don't care what you guys think I have almost nothing into the swap it's going to be 10 times more reliable then a ka-t and an sr it has 220hp stock and a stock ka weighs around 480 without a turbo kit the vg sits further back and lower so I don't care haters are gonna hate until the car is done i want to be different with my car not jump on the sr or rb bandwagon what's the big deal I'm doing the swap regardless I simply posted up to talk to people who have done it or who are interested in a different swap at most I'm gonna have around $500 into the swap including a 1 piece aluminum driveshaft if I don't like the swap whatever I'll pull it and sell it so like I said all you haters can hate IDGAF now jump off my thread

Shadowninja · 08-16-2011, 09:59 PM

Ok I got this vg30de motor and I would like to put it in my s13... Could anyone tell me what is need to make this work...

jdm213 · 08-16-2011, 10:14 PM

just do it and post a build thread and prove us wrong it may be interesting .....!!! just do it

Butcher240sx · 08-17-2011, 01:34 AM

Pull the plentnum to change plugs on vg? Never had to do that on the 4 cars I had with vg. A local shop here built a vg33ett for a s13. Pathfinder engine with z31 turbo parts. My 85 z ran like a beast on 16psi. On an engine with 300k miles. The vget can be had for $300 locally and sits almost behind the engine mouns in s13. The dual cam vgde is a pain to work on. But its a great engine. Do whatca like.

ryandriftingfat · 08-17-2011, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butcher240sx

Pull the plentnum to change plugs on vg? Never had to do that on the 4 cars I had with vg. A local shop here built a vg33ett for a s13. Pathfinder engine with z31 turbo parts. My 85 z ran like a beast on 16psi. On an engine with 300k miles. The vget can be had for $300 locally and sits almost behind the engine mouns in s13. The dual cam vgde is a pain to work on. But its a great engine. Do whatca like.

single cam and twin cam VG's have very different plenum designs.

Butcher240sx · 08-17-2011, 01:55 PM

.Yeah I know. I've had 2 J30 and 2 Z32 also had 3 Z31. Never pulled the plentnum on either. Just used long extensions.

qx56tz31zx · 09-01-2011, 08:17 PM

any one still following this thread ive made a lot of head way. in the past 2 weeks. got 97 pathfinder 2wd oil pan bolted on and the vg engine bolted right in. im talkn nothn custom. used ka aftermarket solid tranny mount. rb motor mounts lowered engine dwn 2 inches. shifter in perfect placement. stock ka. drive shaft works. but i have a rb tranny with vg bell housing. i havnt found a oil pick up tube yet. might just add 4" of pipe on mine and c whats shes made of.
the motor is 4" away from fire wall!

shell-300
roll cage-300
camshafts -200
50 shot-200
vg30e motor tranny ecu harness 400.00
oil pan 10.00

glad i went with a vg!

PoorMans180SX · 09-01-2011, 09:31 PM

Nice! Glad you got a sohc!

NoPistons! · 09-04-2011, 06:37 PM

I'm pumped on this thread. Well, the good stuff anyway. The hater crap is weak. Smells like ignorance. Just ignore that shit. Vg30e isn't the most balling engine ever but they go hard and are cheap to obtain, build and service. They love boost. If i wasn't going ka for a while i'd make it a priority to get mine installed but i had to sell the turbo i got for it to get my s13 road worthy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by I<3Panda86

VGs are heavy, hard to work on, make little power nomatter what you get E or DE, I say save your money and get a VQ

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Use your iphone for google before posting next time.

Vg30 rods are good for up to 700hp. Pistons have held 500. Shut up with your weaksauce soda can motor bullshit. VQ swap is a waste of money. Sure it's lighter but for the money, i wouldn't waste my time. VG30 is stronger.

Also, you can find them in pathfinders, z31, maxima, quest mini van, xterra......lots and lots and lots of vg's everyfuckingwhere.

Fuck that dohc shit though. Run oversized valves and port the heads if you want more flow. Mine is sitting in my basement awaiting either my friend wanting to push funds to get the machine work done for his maxima or me finishing it to drop in my 240. Have vg30et ecu and top feed injectors. Shiiiiiiit. And i'm damn sure going to grab an s12 crossmember knowing they bolt up. The question is, will stock z mounts work with that leaving the tranny mount alone?

Xxs13240xX · 09-06-2011, 10:25 AM

If anyone is still reading this thread I want you all to know that the swap is near complete engine is all checked over and good to go taking it off the engine stand whenever I get some free time bolting up the tranny and then going to pull out the good ole ka clean up and spray the engine bay and drop it in should be done hopefully by Saturday

Xxs13240xX · 09-06-2011, 10:26 AM

Build thread coming soon then one big single turbo /brn rubber

Future_gohan · 09-06-2011, 06:15 PM

Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Im doing this swap FYI, and...its an awesome possum.

thevert · 09-07-2011, 12:25 AM

i would like to see this build completed. i have a deal on a vg but not sure if i want to go through with it, cant wait to see this!

Walperstyle · 09-07-2011, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mishkin_707

...everyone goes KA-T cause they can't afford an SR20

Besides your run-on sentence, that statement is funny. I'm $5000 into my KA-T without turbo, ecu and fuel system yet. lol. Yeah...cant afford a SR.

but If I exceed $9000, I'm going to kill myself for not doing LS.

NoPistons! · 09-10-2011, 07:38 AM

SR20's are as cheap as any other motor. Dont ship it to your door on a pallet and they're plenty cheap. Second hand sr or "i can't finish my build" sr for $1k-ish all day. About the cost of a solid na-t ka with supporting mods and a fresh clutch. I swear, some people are retarded.

Can't wait to see how epic 300sx is. I wish i could jump on mine but priorities have it back burnered until next year at the earliest. Omg the fucking TORQUE. No ugly v8 noises either.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxLYy0OlyNk

Dual cam smoking it up without the aid of a turbo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu6rC...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE5ft83oEFA

Nasty. Just plain nasty. RB what?

Xxs13240xX · 09-10-2011, 04:30 PM

Here's to all you haters

PoorMans180SX · 09-10-2011, 08:30 PM

Oh, it's a DE...

Future_gohan · 09-11-2011, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Oh, it's a DE...

Single cams are gay (Imo), this thing is legit and should be drifting by sunday

NoPistons! · 09-12-2011, 01:34 AM

Single or dual, you put a vg in an s chassis. Hell yeah!

PoorMans180SX · 09-12-2011, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Future_gohan

Single cams are gay (Imo), this thing is legit and should be drifting by sunday

Smaller, lighter, easier to work on, and... Apparently homosexual?

Props on the swap completion though.

Future_gohan · 09-12-2011, 09:30 PM

the dohc is not hard to work on, esp once stripped like this is. I've never worked on the sohc but there is a much larger parts selection etc with the dohc.

NoPistons! · 09-14-2011, 03:07 AM

Feel free to back your claims with facts.

We're waiting....

PoorMans180SX · 09-15-2011, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoPistons!

Feel free to back your claims with facts.

We're waiting....

You talkin' to me?

qx56tz31zx · 09-20-2011, 07:01 PM

so my pathy oil pan was awsome but warped. so it had go... got maxima one in there now. couldnt find a good pathy one but it would have been sweet. wouldnt have to touch the hood. owell. with the front sump and sitting in there far back as possible my shifter is 3inches forward then it should be. but my tranny is also lot shorter than stock. some wiring, intake, exhuast, seat mounts, and ll post a vid. for all whom it may concern. not sure if i want to do a flat radiator. or use stock. for now prolly stock.

NoPistons! · 09-24-2011, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

You talkin' to me?

Ofcourse not. I love those motors.

sexcii-zenki · 10-04-2011, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xxs13240xX

First of all I don't care what you guys think I have almost nothing into the swap it's going to be 10 times more reliable then a ka-t and an sr it has 220hp stock and a stock ka weighs around 480 without a turbo kit the vg sits further back and lower so I don't care haters are gonna hate until the car is done i want to be different with my car not jump on the sr or rb bandwagon what's the big deal I'm doing the swap regardless I simply posted up to talk to people who have done it or who are interested in a different swap at most I'm gonna have around $500 into the swap including a 1 piece aluminum driveshaft if I don't like the swap whatever I'll pull it and sell it so like I said all you haters can hate IDGAF now jump off my thread

lol...imo ur rite different, good power plant, parts readily available @any local auto parts...good luck i def wana see the end results im pretty sure ull b happy with it...

NoPistons! · 11-29-2011, 08:40 AM

Hmm. Thread died off. Engine blow. RIPPERS REQUIRED!

Picked up a pathfinder a few weeks ago. Love the thing.

I have one question, one useful fact.

Question: Does the single cam and dual cam lower plenum runners line up? Bolt holes? The biggest fuck up the ass when it comes to the dual cam is the intake manifold. You can get around it being wider than the E but damn that manifold.

Fact: S12 200sx vg30 cross member bolts RIGHT IN to s13/14.

LS1, GTFO.

irax · 12-03-2011, 03:51 AM

different heads so I would assume that it wouldn't.

also keep that fact to your self, its a vq35de swap secret.... wooops LOL!

northstarninja · 12-05-2011, 06:54 PM

I just found this thread... Why is every one hating on the vg30et? It's a pretty awesome motor, one that was in the Gtp Zx-turbo which made upwards of 1000HP and did exceptionally well in imsa gt.

The vg has way more potential than a sr. And more tq. True sr's are a nice easy first swap, and good for a stock swap, but in the long run the vg wins out. And you don't have to sleeve the block for +500HP.

I'm considering this swap as well. The motors currently in an S12, but I want to put it in my s13. I'll even have an S12 crossmember...

PoorMans180SX · 12-05-2011, 07:19 PM

Yeah I'm considering the old SOHC hammer as well...

08-16-2011, 09:59 PM	#32
Shadowninja Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Maryland Age: 33 Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Vg30de swap in s13 Ok I got this vg30de motor and I would like to put it in my s13... Could anyone tell me what is need to make this work...

08-17-2011, 01:34 AM	#34
Butcher240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston Texas Age: 42 Posts: 157 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Pull the plentnum to change plugs on vg? Never had to do that on the 4 cars I had with vg. A local shop here built a vg33ett for a s13. Pathfinder engine with z31 turbo parts. My 85 z ran like a beast on 16psi. On an engine with 300k miles. The vget can be had for $300 locally and sits almost behind the engine mouns in s13. The dual cam vgde is a pain to work on. But its a great engine. Do whatca like. __________________ Don't Mess With Texas

08-17-2011, 01:55 PM	#36
Butcher240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston Texas Age: 42 Posts: 157 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	.Yeah I know. I've had 2 J30 and 2 Z32 also had 3 Z31. Never pulled the plentnum on either. Just used long extensions. __________________ Don't Mess With Texas

09-01-2011, 09:31 PM	#38
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Nice! Glad you got a sohc! __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

09-06-2011, 06:15 PM	#42
Future_gohan Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Age: 33 Posts: 919 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Im doing this swap FYI, and...its an awesome possum. __________________

08-14-2011, 07:10 PM	#31
Xxs13240xX Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Moon PA Posts: 279 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	First of all I don't care what you guys think I have almost nothing into the swap it's going to be 10 times more reliable then a ka-t and an sr it has 220hp stock and a stock ka weighs around 480 without a turbo kit the vg sits further back and lower so I don't care haters are gonna hate until the car is done i want to be different with my car not jump on the sr or rb bandwagon what's the big deal I'm doing the swap regardless I simply posted up to talk to people who have done it or who are interested in a different swap at most I'm gonna have around $500 into the swap including a 1 piece aluminum driveshaft if I don't like the swap whatever I'll pull it and sell it so like I said all you haters can hate IDGAF now jump off my thread

08-16-2011, 10:14 PM	#33
jdm213 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: los angeles Age: 33 Posts: 960 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	just do it and post a build thread and prove us wrong it may be interesting .....!!! just do it

09-01-2011, 08:17 PM	#37
qx56tz31zx Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: cayce Age: 34 Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	any one still following this thread ive made a lot of head way. in the past 2 weeks. got 97 pathfinder 2wd oil pan bolted on and the vg engine bolted right in. im talkn nothn custom. used ka aftermarket solid tranny mount. rb motor mounts lowered engine dwn 2 inches. shifter in perfect placement. stock ka. drive shaft works. but i have a rb tranny with vg bell housing. i havnt found a oil pick up tube yet. might just add 4" of pipe on mine and c whats shes made of. the motor is 4" away from fire wall! shell-300 roll cage-300 camshafts -200 50 shot-200 vg30e motor tranny ecu harness 400.00 oil pan 10.00 glad i went with a vg!

09-06-2011, 10:25 AM	#40
Xxs13240xX Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Moon PA Posts: 279 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	If anyone is still reading this thread I want you all to know that the swap is near complete engine is all checked over and good to go taking it off the engine stand whenever I get some free time bolting up the tranny and then going to pull out the good ole ka clean up and spray the engine bay and drop it in should be done hopefully by Saturday

09-06-2011, 10:26 AM	#41
Xxs13240xX Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Moon PA Posts: 279 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Build thread coming soon then one big single turbo /brn rubber

09-07-2011, 12:25 AM	#43
thevert Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: lp Age: 35 Posts: 67 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i would like to see this build completed. i have a deal on a vg but not sure if i want to go through with it, cant wait to see this!

09-10-2011, 07:38 AM	#45
NoPistons! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Carolina Posts: 548 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	SR20's are as cheap as any other motor. Dont ship it to your door on a pallet and they're plenty cheap. Second hand sr or "i can't finish my build" sr for $1k-ish all day. About the cost of a solid na-t ka with supporting mods and a fresh clutch. I swear, some people are retarded. Can't wait to see how epic 300sx is. I wish i could jump on mine but priorities have it back burnered until next year at the earliest. Omg the fucking TORQUE. No ugly v8 noises either..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxLYy0OlyNk Dual cam smoking it up without the aid of a turbo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu6rC...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE5ft83oEFA Nasty. Just plain nasty. RB what? __________________ Just another broke ass drifter

09-10-2011, 04:30 PM	#46
Xxs13240xX Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Moon PA Posts: 279 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Here's to all you haters

09-10-2011, 08:30 PM	#47
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Oh, it's a DE... __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

09-12-2011, 01:34 AM	#49
NoPistons! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Carolina Posts: 548 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Single or dual, you put a vg in an s chassis. Hell yeah! __________________ Just another broke ass drifter

09-12-2011, 09:30 PM	#51
Future_gohan Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Age: 33 Posts: 919 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	the dohc is not hard to work on, esp once stripped like this is. I've never worked on the sohc but there is a much larger parts selection etc with the dohc. __________________

09-14-2011, 03:07 AM	#52
NoPistons! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Carolina Posts: 548 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Feel free to back your claims with facts. We're waiting.... __________________ Just another broke ass drifter

09-20-2011, 07:01 PM	#54
qx56tz31zx Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: cayce Age: 34 Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so my pathy oil pan was awsome but warped. so it had go... got maxima one in there now. couldnt find a good pathy one but it would have been sweet. wouldnt have to touch the hood. owell. with the front sump and sitting in there far back as possible my shifter is 3inches forward then it should be. but my tranny is also lot shorter than stock. some wiring, intake, exhuast, seat mounts, and ll post a vid. for all whom it may concern. not sure if i want to do a flat radiator. or use stock. for now prolly stock.

11-29-2011, 08:40 AM	#57
NoPistons! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Carolina Posts: 548 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hmm. Thread died off. Engine blow. RIPPERS REQUIRED! Picked up a pathfinder a few weeks ago. Love the thing. I have one question, one useful fact. Question: Does the single cam and dual cam lower plenum runners line up? Bolt holes? The biggest fuck up the ass when it comes to the dual cam is the intake manifold. You can get around it being wider than the E but damn that manifold. Fact: S12 200sx vg30 cross member bolts RIGHT IN to s13/14. LS1, GTFO. __________________ Just another broke ass drifter

12-03-2011, 03:51 AM	#58
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 40 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	different heads so I would assume that it wouldn't. also keep that fact to your self, its a vq35de swap secret.... wooops LOL! __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

12-05-2011, 06:54 PM	#59
northstarninja Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: jersey Age: 42 Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just found this thread... Why is every one hating on the vg30et? It's a pretty awesome motor, one that was in the Gtp Zx-turbo which made upwards of 1000HP and did exceptionally well in imsa gt. The vg has way more potential than a sr. And more tq. True sr's are a nice easy first swap, and good for a stock swap, but in the long run the vg wins out. And you don't have to sleeve the block for +500HP. I'm considering this swap as well. The motors currently in an S12, but I want to put it in my s13. I'll even have an S12 crossmember...

12-05-2011, 07:19 PM	#60
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Yeah I'm considering the old SOHC hammer as well... __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.