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Old 06-28-2012, 06:29 PM   #61
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we all ready have fuel racing kit. sits nice with only modifying the transmission tunnel a bit. just the price hold me back for now. Hopefully you can make an equal quality kit without the high price
Our product should have the same or better quality than any others on the market.

the mounts as you can see, it is well designed and will be well made.

the new oil pan we will be making, will have 1" thick CNC flange, with aluminum sheet welded pan/sump.

our kit will also have other necessary parts like headers, radiator kit and electronic adapter box.

if you just compare apple to apple (with the same parts), our price will be a lot more less than others. We don't have the price yet, but this is the ETA:

  • just the basic kit with motor/tranny mounts, oil pan, and driveshaft, like others, it will be less than $2K.
  • add headers, radiator, electronic adapter box, will be around $3k.
  • add intake MF, Billet Throttle Body, fuelrails, will be around $4k.

the 1st round of the kit supports LS1-LS9 with T56 tranny.

the 2nd round of the kit will support LQ9 LM7 Motor with Auto tranny (a lot more less cost on the motor+tanny than the LS1).
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:37 PM   #62
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nvm i answered my own question, i thought you were making the hight fully adjustable too, i over saw the offset bushing which makes the hight adjustment..... you said you guys are thinking of doing a driveshaft, if its and adjustable horizontal mount how you gonna what size drive shaft the customer needs. after they have it in measure it and call you guys or what.
correct. the plate shown can be moved front and back, the bushing mount can be flipped for height adjustment.

for the driveshaft we will be offering, it will only work with the position we have the motor sits (which should be the most common position). if you want to change the motor position, then just have your driveshaft custom made locally. we will offer the kits in many different combinations to meet many different needs or applications.

as you can see, we have put in a lot of design and development thoughts into this project, a lot of the products being developing have many considerations from many resources we have. the goal is to develop the best possible products in terms of functioning, quality, easy of installation, durability, and cost.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:46 PM   #63
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the way the motor is mounted, should be the most common position. it does not really have that much of room you can move it, probably only about 1/2 inch up or down and another 1/2 inch front and back.

we are building the header, will show it when it is done.
alright one of the first pics i saw looked like the mount had 6+inches (no homo) or front to back travel.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:00 AM   #64
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alright one of the first pics i saw looked like the mount had 6+inches (no homo) or front to back travel.
the mounting plate has many 1/2 inch holes, we use this plate to adjust the motor position for other LS swap projects we are also developing. which includes:

240SX S13
240SX S14
RX7 FD
RX7 FC
BMW E30
BMW E36
Datsun 240Z

we probably will finish all these projects by the end of this year and offer swap kits.
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After these, we will do:
Nissan 300ZX
Nissan 350Z/Infinity G35
Toyota Supra MK3
Lexus GS300/IS300

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then some other older domestic chassis....

Good Enough??
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I expected a lot more trash talk in this thread and was pleasantly surprised. So far everything looks pretty damn good.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:27 PM   #66
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I expected a lot more trash talk in this thread and was pleasantly surprised. So far everything looks pretty damn good.
cxracing is a bargain brand, but they have been around a lot longer then most others so they must be doing something right.
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Old 07-01-2012, 03:03 PM   #67
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we finished the Auto Tanny Mount. after we finished the development. we will offer different combination of the mounting kit:

1. LSx Car Motor with T56 Manual Tranny (this probably the one that most people want to do, but higher cost on the motor+tranny)


2. LSx Car Motor with Truck Auto Tranny (A little bit less cost, probably for the none drifters)


3. LQ LM Truck Motor with Truck Auto Tranny.(Cheap but stronger Motor, and widely available, but need to swap out the front accessories on truck motor and intake MF to fit the car chassis)


4. LQ LM Truck Motor with Manual Tranny. (Cheap but stronger Motor, good tranny)






These are the two tranny Mounts, for Auto and Manual.


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Old 07-01-2012, 04:43 PM   #68
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That's great you guys are thinking of people that don't want an expensive manual transmission(drifter) and want to keep the comfort of an auto.(MY GF) Hopefully my stocks go up when this swap comes out that way I can pick up 2!
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Nice nice!!

Any plans on ever doing a 2jz swap kit?
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Nice nice!!

Any plans on ever doing a 2jz swap kit?
Yes. after the LS Swap projects, these are the engines we will do:

1. RB20/25

2. 1JZ-GTE VVTI (the new 1JZ)

3. 2JZGE or 2JZGTE (not sure we would do the 2JZGTE, too expensive, we don't think the market is big enough, with these LS swap kits released later, we don't think 2JZGTE can keep up when comparing to the costs)

4. then we will go back to re-do the KA24DE-T kit, will also offer internal built parts to make it easier and affordable, 300-350HP range with lower total cost builds)
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That's great you guys are thinking of people that don't want an expensive manual transmission(drifter) and want to keep the comfort of an auto.(MY GF) Hopefully my stocks go up when this swap comes out that way I can pick up 2!
THANKS!

we know the market and understand what customers want and different level of affordability, we always keep that in mind when developing products to cover all levels of demands and price pints.

PS. we won't tax on a certain kit because it is for "more expensive swap", these kits will be at the same price level, to cover all needs.
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Yes. after the LS Swap projects, these are the engines we will do:

1. RB20/25

2. 1JZ-GTE VVTI (the new 1JZ)

3. 2JZGE or 2JZGTE (not sure we would do the 2JZGTE, too expensive, we don't think the market is big enough, with these LS swap kits released later, we don't think 2JZGTE can keep up when comparing to the costs)

4. then we will go back to re-do the KA24DE-T kit, will also offer internal built parts to make it easier and affordable, 300-350HP range with lower total cost builds)
Yeah the 2jzgte is pricey, but the 2jzGE can be had for 600-700 bucks.
I ,am really excited to see the finished products!
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Yeah the 2jzgte is pricey, but the 2jzGE can be had for 600-700 bucks.
I ,am really excited to see the finished products!
that's why i said 2JZGE or 2JZGTE. 2JZGE+turbo probably will be what we ended up doing. thanks....
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Yes. after the LS Swap projects, these are the engines we will do:

1. RB20/25

2. 1JZ-GTE VVTI (the new 1JZ)

3. 2JZGE or 2JZGTE (not sure we would do the 2JZGTE, too expensive, we don't think the market is big enough, with these LS swap kits released later, we don't think 2JZGTE can keep up when comparing to the costs)

4. then we will go back to re-do the KA24DE-T kit, will also offer internal built parts to make it easier and affordable, 300-350HP range with lower total cost builds)
Hmmm...judging by the apparent quality and thoroughness of this kit, I'd like to see what you guys conjure up for the JZ crowd; especially seeing as how this product in base form is a little less than $1000 cheaper than what I've seen from other companies.

Tech2 offers a pretty complete kit, but $1500+ is far too much in my opinion. It would be great to see a kit from you guys that covers the bigger basics like the 2jzswap.com offering (mount kit, motor mounts, driveshaft, shifter extension if using a 154, etc.) without the arm-and-a-leg pricing.

I'll be keeping an eye out for this for sure. My plan was to pick up the Xcessive kit and source everything else, but I'd certainly like to get it all or as much as I can in one shot, so I spend less time building and more time driving

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Just a side note, this is the RB Swap kit we are doing on the older 240Z, the same RB25 motor will be used on the S13/S14 swap later.

if the interests on the 2JZ is large enough, we will make one. it should not be difficult for us at all.






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you should consider a 1uz swap into the s13...
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you should consider a 1uz swap into the s13...
How about we will do a poll and see what motor will be the next swap kit, after we finished this swap project? Cool?
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That sounds like a plan.*crossing fingers for some 1J love*
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Back on Track. Got the drawing of the Oil Pan Flange done. we will CNC a couple flanges and will be fabricating an oil pan.


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I hope it's gonna be cheaper than Sikky, about the same price as Hooker products maybe? I'm thinking on using their mounts since those are for sale already. Buy I'll definitely need a pan, power steering lines and a driveshaft.
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I hope it's gonna be cheaper than Sikky, about the same price as Hooker products maybe? I'm thinking on using their mounts since those are for sale already. Buy I'll definitely need a pan, power steering lines and a driveshaft.
the Engine + Tranny Mounts will be available in about 5-6 weeks.
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hey guys when you get to designing the oil pan, can you make it slightly larger capacity and with baffles to prevent oil starvation? maybe even finned?

also what is the expected price range for the kit as it looks pretty complete ( minus say the clutch MC)
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hey guys when you get to designing the oil pan, can you make it slightly larger capacity and with baffles to prevent oil starvation? maybe even finned?

also what is the expected price range for the kit as it looks pretty complete ( minus say the clutch MC)
The oil pan design has considered all the racing/drifting conditions and will be built to address all these issues. our developers have built many "record breaking" and big HP race cars, so this is very simple for us to do.

ETA prices have been posted on previous post.
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I hope you do the GS300 soon. There is a big piece of market missing from the US which is the 4 door cars.

There are a lot of people that want to do the GS300 but there is not a swap available for it. You could corner the market with the GS platform as you would be the only game in town.

There was another company that did a swap but it went under for some reason.
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While we are working on other parts, this is our 92mm Throttle body, Billet CNC Aluminum, Installed on a Race Motor.









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is that also the intake manifold yall are designing?
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is that also the intake manifold yall are designing?
no, that's a custom made intake MF.

the one we will make is different. it will be this one:

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That Intake Manifold looks slick, subscribed to this, can't wait to see the finished results.
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Smart move CX, you'll clean up at this.
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Got the trial production of the Aluminum Mounting Plate done, we will be testing them.

also got the oil pan flange cut out, will drill some holes and starting making the oil pan.

header and driveshaft mock up should be done within 1 week, so the kit is getting pieces together...






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