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TheRealSy90 · 09-21-2016, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

Full-Race can customize the 7163 to T3 by welding a T3 flange on the inlet. photo attached. But keep in mind 7064 is also an excellent turbo, and under-rated in my experiece. both are good options

Thanks for the info Geoff! Now that changes my options up for sure. Guess it just depends on which one I find the best deal on now haha.

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inopsey · 09-22-2016, 02:46 PM

whats wrong with the t4 for a 7163?

TheRealSy90 · 09-22-2016, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by inopsey

whats wrong with the t4 for a 7163?

Nothing? I just have a t3 manifold.

Now my only concern is if the internal gate turbos will even fit and have room for a downpipe with their longer turbine housing, when installed on a non-EFR specific manifold.

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RalliartRsX · 09-22-2016, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

Nothing? I just have a t3 manifold.

Now my only concern is if the internal gate turbos will even fit and have room for a downpipe with their longer turbine housing, when installed on a non-EFR specific manifold.

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Short answer: Good luck lol! The turbo exterior measurements are on the BW website. Take a look and measure.

What manifold do you have?? And I wouldn't be so caught up on making things fit because that is what you have. It's seems like the cheap way initially, but you stand a good chance of spending so much time and potentially $$$ on making everything else fit to accommodate. I would sell and get the correct manifold and turbo as you wanted.

Trust me: Been there, done that. Def can get you very good deals on both brand new from FR. If I were in your shoes, I would go 7163 and not the 7064 regardless of if I could afford it or not. By the time you add you buying a 7064 (which is on par with a 7163 price wise), and modify the turbine housing (which is another few hundred), then you could have just sold your current manifold, by the correct manifold and turbo, and be in it for about the same as using your current setup and modifying the exhaust housing. In addition, if it does not fit or you have to modify a litany of items you need to move around the bay or it sits too close to your brake booster, you are back to square one. I did the same research when I wanted to go from a T3 ( I had a FR manifold at the time, and was dead keen on keeping it lol) to a twin scroll T4, and it all led back to just buying the correct parts.

P.S My 7163 is now sold. Sorry you missed out

TheRealSy90 · 09-22-2016, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Short answer: Good luck lol!

Haha yeah it makes sense honesty. And at this point after owning the car over 8 years, it's gotten to the point that whenever I change any part it ends up needing other parts to be changed or modified as well to even fit, since at this point there's nothing on the car that hasn't been replaced upgraded or modified haha. So yeah, might as well just do a full kit. And yeah I'm leaning towards the 7163 in the end.

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rbs14kouki · 11-06-2016, 06:14 PM

Sr20vet
86.5 cp 8.5:1 compression
P12 cams locked on high lob (278,12mm // 280, 11.15mm)
E85
+++++

Looking for +- 500whp 20 to 25psi

Full on drift car

Efr7670 is what im looking at or a 7163 ?

Both turbo will be vband housing .82ar or arpund those specs .... i have doc race vband manifold made for my ve and it wont sale around my area

RalliartRsX · 11-06-2016, 07:27 PM

7670 if you want some headroom as the VE does flow quite well

Note: It seems the evolution guys are making 600+All wheel hp on the 7163 so the turbo is very capable. However, they seem to not be very keen on wheel speed so who knows if they sitting on ticking time bomb. In addition, 95% are into drag racing or toll racing with a select few who do autocross and time attack

FullRaceGeoff · 11-07-2016, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rbs14kouki

Sr20vet
86.5 cp 8.5:1 compression
P12 cams locked on high lob (278,12mm // 280, 11.15mm)
E85
+++++

Looking for +- 500whp 20 to 25psi

Full on drift car

Efr7670 is what im looking at or a 7163 ?

Both turbo will be vband housing .82ar or arpund those specs .... i have doc race vband manifold made for my ve and it wont sale around my area

7670 will not do what you're looking for... 7163 is the call here. If you need one lmk

TheRealSy90 · 11-07-2016, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

7163 is the call here. If you need one lmk

Hey Geoff, I noticed you guys have the FulRace "Kit" for the T3 twin scoll IWG 7163 top mounted. Manifold, turbo, and downpipe etc...

However I'm not seeing a "kit" for the top mount T2 EFR manifold? Do you guys not offer a downpipe for this setup? I've had my eyes on the T2 top mount EFR manifold and a T2 IWG 7063.

RalliartRsX · 11-07-2016, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

Hey Geoff, I noticed you guys have the FulRace "Kit" for the T3 twin scoll IWG 7163 top mounted. Manifold, turbo, and downpipe etc...

However I'm not seeing a "kit" for the top mount T2 EFR manifold? Do you guys not offer a downpipe for this setup? I've had my eyes on the T2 top mount EFR manifold and a T2 IWG 7063.

They have a downpipe on the webpage (and not part of a kit)

http://www.full-race.com/store/exhau...downpipe.html/

Below is a description excerpt from their site

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Nissan SR20DET 3″ Top Mount Downpipe

Compatible with the Full-Race T25 IWG Top Mount Manifold

Applications:
•’89-’93 Nissan S13
•’95-’98 Nissan S14

TheRealSy90 · 11-07-2016, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

They have a downpipe on the webpage (and not part of a kit)

http://www.full-race.com/store/exhau...downpipe.html/

Idk how I missed that, probably since I didn't see "EFR" in the title of it so never clicked on it.

$3,386 for the T4 Twin Scroll IWG 7163/Manifold/Downpipe with no coatings.

$3,209 for the T2 IWG Manifold, T2 7163, and their downpipe...

Pretty sure the $100 difference is more than justified by the benefits of the T4 Twin Scroll...
Just going off of prices listed on the website though.

FullRaceGeoff · 11-08-2016, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

Hey Geoff, I noticed you guys have the FulRace "Kit" for the T3 twin scoll IWG 7163 top mounted. Manifold, turbo, and downpipe etc... However I'm not seeing a "kit" for the top mount T2 EFR manifold? Do you guys not offer a downpipe for this setup? I've had my eyes on the T2 top mount EFR manifold and a T2 IWG 7063.

hey thanks for that. we launched a new website 3 weeks ago still finding a few items that did not make it to the new store... this looks like one of them

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Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

They have a downpipe on the webpage (and not part of a kit)

http://www.full-race.com/store/exhau...downpipe.html/

Below is a description excerpt from their site

thank you!

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Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

Idk how I missed that, probably since I didn't see "EFR" in the title of it so never clicked on it. $3,386 for the T4 Twin Scroll IWG 7163/Manifold/Downpipe with no coatings. $3,209 for the T2 IWG Manifold, T2 7163, and their downpipe... Pretty sure the $100 difference is more than justified by the benefits of the T4 Twin Scroll...
Just going off of prices listed on the website though.

the difference between these kits is literally 2 hours of labor. I just drove my old employees stock SR20 with drop in tomei cams and twinscroll 6758 last weekend and fell in love. perfect combination

TheRealSy90 · 11-08-2016, 07:31 PM

Yeah based on the price difference I can't see any reason to go with the t2 IWG setup verses the t4 twinscroll IWG setup.

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e30gangsta · 02-24-2021, 12:35 PM

I usually dont bump 5 year old threads. But there is now a company on ebay and amazon offering the 7163 in a t3 flange option. That paired with a cheap china/isr top mount manifold and ewg is a solid semi affordable package.

RalliartRsX · 03-02-2021, 07:09 AM

Yeah. They have been doing that on Amazon for several years (probably not the same company). It is also offers with the larger non EFR compressor housing

spooled240 · 03-02-2021, 09:22 AM

I almost went with that t3 7163 turbo with my xcessive manifold as that combo would have been bananas, but I've always wanted to do a stealthy bottom mount KA-T so I'm doing a Tomei manifold with a 6758 instead. There was some misinformation saying this wouldn't clear the block on a KA, but it does clear. The motor mount bracket needs to be cut and reinforced to clear the compressor housing. Stock sr20det airbox will be used and a sr20det heat shield is on its way.

Hoping for 320-350whp on pump with water/meth injection and 400whp on e85.

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e30gangsta Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Denver Colorado Age: 39 Posts: 613 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I usually dont bump 5 year old threads. But there is now a company on ebay and amazon offering the 7163 in a t3 flange option. That paired with a cheap china/isr top mount manifold and ewg is a solid semi affordable package. __________________ Need aftermarket parts? PM or DM me competitive pricing! IG@S13Guille

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inopsey Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: canada Posts: 1,701 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	whats wrong with the t4 for a 7163?

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RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,791 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	7670 if you want some headroom as the VE does flow quite well Note: It seems the evolution guys are making 600+All wheel hp on the 7163 so the turbo is very capable. However, they seem to not be very keen on wheel speed so who knows if they sitting on ticking time bomb. In addition, 95% are into drag racing or toll racing with a select few who do autocross and time attack

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RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,791 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	Yeah. They have been doing that on Amazon for several years (probably not the same company). It is also offers with the larger non EFR compressor housing

03-02-2021, 09:22 AM	#316
spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,203 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I almost went with that t3 7163 turbo with my xcessive manifold as that combo would have been bananas, but I've always wanted to do a stealthy bottom mount KA-T so I'm doing a Tomei manifold with a 6758 instead. There was some misinformation saying this wouldn't clear the block on a KA, but it does clear. The motor mount bracket needs to be cut and reinforced to clear the compressor housing. Stock sr20det airbox will be used and a sr20det heat shield is on its way. Hoping for 320-350whp on pump with water/meth injection and 400whp on e85.