Helping one of our own

[rbpwrd240]

Originally Posted by Magnezee

Ahh, no, its doesn't, they already get to buy a house with no PPI, that's a perk that I'm ok with, otherwise, a regular Joe Blow Beethoven.

Again, like I said, its a whole other topic of discussion. I am glad you posted this thread, people don't realize the extreme a manufacture goes to keep their customers happy, 99% of Buybacks can be fixed, its time limits, parts limits, knowledge of tech's (that are being paid their worth) state laws... and then there's customers that just go to the extreme to get out a payment he/she can not afford.

This is coming from years of dealing with the outer and inner workings of a manufacture, from franchise dealers (with different inner workings on its own, and lots of warranty fraud being done by reputably dealers, Sales/Parts/Service managers should be going to jail....(IMHO) in a lot of cases) , corporate, warranty, claims processing, technical support .... in the end, for a dealer, its about the money, for the manufacture, its about keeping the customer happy, pride in the workplace, shine a light on the brand, keep employees happy, then the revenue.

Just my .02, if its worth anything more, donate to http://www.pitbullrescuesandiego.com/

(shameless plug for the breed)

BTW rbpwrd240, there is a multi-quote button, all at once, you know

Now I know what the MQ buton means. LOL I never bothered to use it as I dont generally get this involved in things around here. It generaly leads to arguments.

Good point though about the advantages of being military with the housing and schooling etc but I guess I didnt realy consider those as other people get govt assistance etc but there are many advantages to being military including insurance etc so another god point. Make that two for Magnesee!!!

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by driftsucky

So, it's not possible that nobody in town would take the case because it sounds ridiculous? They have to be on the tape? So, the entire TOWN has conspired against your buddy and his turbo Z?

This sounds like a job, for the A-TEAM!!!

Originally Posted by rbpwrd240

Dealership is liable as they were the ones that stated the car was a fire hazard not the owner.

Dealer has insurance, thats what insurance is for. Insurance is not going to replace the car. In the end, this car will be fixed and the owner will have a repaired 370Z.

Originally Posted by Matej

This is what seemed quite peculiar to me as well.
It is as if the guy installed a turbo kit getting in way over his head, and now his car is having issues and he does not know what to do, so he took it to a dealership to fix his mistakes.
I am surprised the dealership even accepted the car once they saw it was not in factory condition.

I was thinking the same thing, but the dealer made a big mistake of taking on a modified car. I would have steered clear from that like most dealers do. Whats worse is now you have this asshole starting all this online shit-stirring and for what, because his car caught fire? Big fucking deal. If my car caught fire it would be my loss and my problem. The only reason this guy is starting such a fuss is because he took it to the BIG DEALERSHIP. Im not for or against the dealer, its a business like all the others. I just dont see the need for the slander. Shit happens.

Originally Posted by rbpwrd240

Guessing you haven't seen this then.
https://blog.stillen.com/2011/01/fed...ding-warranty/

If I am a young guy in the military I can afford to buy acar and a turbo kit. Doesn't mean I still dont get the car serviced by the dealer while under warranty.

Thats correct, the modifications dont fully void the entire warranty. But, the dealer can refuse to work on certain things based on certain modifications. Thats their right and if you dont like it, take it to another dealership. Bottom line is that this car is past dealer service, it should be worked on by a specialist. This is why tuner shops exist.

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

One of our own? I don't think so. Turbo'd 370z, needs the dealership to fix a brake leak. That's not how us 40 boyz roll son. We fix brake leaks with duct tape and zipties, fucking amateurs.

Nah bro. Even the dumbest mother fucker on this forum owns a flare wrench.

[Magnezee]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

Nah bro. Even the dumbest mother fucker on this forum owns a flare wrench.

Shouldn't you be asleep !!??? I don't even own a "flare" wrench, gimmicks bro !

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by Magnezee

Shouldn't you be asleep !!??? I don't even own a "flare" wrench, gimmicks bro !

east east east east!!!!!!!!!!

ixfxi never sleeps, im constantly sleuthing the gutters of the internet for car parts and free porno

[rbpwrd240]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

east east east east!!!!!!!!!!

ixfxi never sleeps, im constantly sleuthing the gutters of the internet for car parts and free porno

LMAO,

And I thought I was the only one.

[ixfxi]

After speaking with several mechanics, it appears that our insured did nothing wrong. Because our insured could not duplicate your concerns with the vehicle at the shop, they needed to take it on a test drive at highway speeds and press the brakes. There was no reason to believe or know that the vehicle was going to start on fire and they did everything possible to put it out.

As you are aware, your vehicle has an aftermarket turbo. Whoever installed, allowed it to touch the brake
line. Although the turbo is secured with straps, it still shakes when the car is being driven. The shaking caused the
brake line to fray and brake fluid eventually leaked and hit the exhaust, hence starting a fire.

They knew the engine bay was a fire hazard, they service manager made sure to point that out to me. He noted the fluid all over the turbo down pipe. Also, when I drove the car to the dealership, I had to drive slow, and downshift to slow down. There was little brake pressure. To claim they had no idea the car would catch fire is a slap in the face, and truly shows the lack of technical ability of the service center.

Told you. Guy is so stupid he should have towed the fucking car if the brakes were not operating right.

So, its good enough for him to drive/limp the car TO the dealership but not good enough for the dealer to test drive? Which means if it caught fire when the owner was driving it, that would be OK - but not OK if the dealer drives it.

I would be more upset at the original installer, he was the one who installed the dman thing. He's really the one liable for taking dudes money and doing a shit install with that turbo kit.

Live and learn young blood!

[STR8 H8N]

Originally Posted by rbpwrd240

I pulled this from the370Z site. Also was posted in the doing it wrong section.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ealership.html

The dealers FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/ryannissanminot/reviews/

Seems most of what people do here is bitch at each other can we use our powers for good this time?

this should hav stayed in the diw section

[BoostyMcZface]

This is what happens when you have highly modified cars and don't know what you're doing when you install or trust a shop to do your dirty work. Why he didn't take it back to the shop baffles me, but number one rule in mechanics is if you have a major issue such as a brake failure, you don't drive it, period.

On a side note, I own a boosted 370 and it's been to the dealer once. Only because I was lazy and didn't wanna do the trans and diff fluid. If you have a car like this and can't fix something as basic as brake line rubbing, you probably shouldn't have a car that modified. Having something like that takes constant monitoring and care, and if you're relying on a stealership to fix dumb shit that goes wrong you're definitely diw. But if the dealer knowingly drove the car when shit was covered in fluid, that's also diw and shouldn't be ignored either. Sure his mods and neglect caused it, but if they knew it had a major issue like this, it's easy to tell that it shouldn't be driven until the issue was fixed and no leak or wet exhaust was present.. that's a safety issue in its own right

[STR8 H8N]

some huge zilvia hate over ther on 370z

[EDT007]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

Told you. Guy is so stupid he should have towed the fucking car if the brakes were not operating right.

So, its good enough for him to drive/limp the car TO the dealership but not good enough for the dealer to test drive? Which means if it caught fire when the owner was driving it, that would be OK - but not OK if the dealer drives it.

He has a 2009 (I believe) 370 Nismo with ~6,000 miles on it. It is turbocharged but the service manager told him he was lucky it didn't catch on fire on the way there (so they knew there was a fire hazard) because of a brake fluid leak which is the reason he brought it there in the first place.

I think the issue is that the service manager knew the car was a risk and yet still allowed one of his techs to drive it. The owner is definitely at some fault for not taking the correct precautions to get the car there but the dealer should have not proceeded with the test drive. At the end of the day there are 3 sides to every story: one side, the other and the TRUTH.

[driftsucky]

The tech drove the car because he didn't experience the concern that the customer brought it in for.
Had the tech not driven it, the story would've been "I BROUGHT MY CAR TO THE STEALERSHIP. THEY SAID EVERYTHING WAS FINE!! THEN, AS SOON AS i PICKED IT UP, IT CAUGHT ON FIRE! FACEBOOK HELLLLLLLLP!!!!!"

Then, there would've been a bunch of post saying that dealerships don't know ish and how could they let the car go and say nothing is wrong and fire fire fire blah blah blah.

Whenever a modified car comes in to a dealership, it's an issue. Such is life.

[EDT007]

What do you mean he didn't experience the concern? The service manager clearly knew what was going on and pointed out to the owner that it was a fire hazard. I've been a tech for over 15 years. Guess what, if someone comes in and says they don't have brakes I'm going to put it on the lift and check the system before driving it.

[driftsucky]

Originally Posted by EDT007

What do you mean he didn't experience the concern? The service manager clearly knew what was going on and pointed out to the owner that it was a fire hazard. I've been a tech for over 15 years. Guess what, if someone comes in and says they don't have brakes I'm going to put it on the lift and check the system before driving it.

...could not duplicate your concerns with the vehicle at the shop, they needed to take it on a test drive at highway speeds and press the brakes.

Are you planning on just carrying that to your lift with your magnanimous muscles? Is that how you did things when you were a tech for 15 years? Did you get tired of lifting cars to carry them to your lift, so you retired and got a gold watch and a pin with a big muscle arm on it? Then you decided to join the Avengers and date superheros?

[LockOn!]

Hmmmmm

Guy does own work

Guy brings fuck up to dealer

Dealer fucks up too

What do?



This is an interesting one. I generally consider all warranties written off when I modify a car, especially with FI, but the dealer clearly fucked up too when they went against the customers specific instructions and caused the exact fire he was aiming to avoid.

I have no fucking clue who's/what is correct in this situation. Will be monitoring this thread.


: drama::d rama:

[EDT007]

Clearly you can't have an adult discussion. It's called pushing the car into the shop dumbass! Use your head and stop trying to flex your internet muscles. I was clearly trying to say that in certain situations one must take extra precaution. You know, kind of how your parents didn't by not using contraception.

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by STR8 H8N

some huge zilvia hate over ther on 370z

All they're doing is bashing Isamu...

I wish I could post over there.. but **** those guys. I'm sorry I work 12 hr days for weeks on end.. trust me.. had I had time I would have fixed it myself.. it wasn't a warranty claim.. ******* **** bags making assumptions.

We have careers, we own modified cars, we work heavy hours. Theres no excuse for stupidity. If your car does not work right, leave it alone and fix it when time permits. Dont drive it - TOW it. Its not about making assumptions, its about doing the right thing and not getting a rally of people to stir up a bunch of commotion. If you dont like the dealership, dont go there. Leave a bad review. But theres no need to get a fuckin possee like some whiny brat.

I read the thread over there, then some other ones. All of them seem to be a bunch of whiny *** bitches.... rude fuckers too..

Whiny bitches who know how to turn a wrench and know better than to drive a car that shouldnt be driven.

The dealer has insurance. Guy needs to chill out, he will eventually collect from the insurance. He makes it seem as if the Z34 is some sort of collectible. Our janky ass old S-chassis are more collectible than these 370s. Not only can you buy 370Z parts new, but you can also go buy an entire car if need be.

** waaaaaah my 370z caught fire waaaaaaah ***

[Matej]

The guy is lucky that his car burned down at a dealership. At least now he may have a chance at getting some money back.

He would be solely out of luck when his engine blew up from a bolt-on turbo kit.

[STR8 H8N]

I wish I could post over there.. but **** those guys. I'm sorry I work 12 hr days for weeks on end.. trust me.. had I had time I would have fixed it myself.. it wasn't a warranty claim.. ******* **** bags making assumptions.

[evomike]

im sorry but i dont see how this is on the dealership at all especially after reading the dealerships response.
this is what the dealerships insurance said as to why they are not liable.
Quote:
After speaking with several mechanics, it appears that our insured did nothing wrong. Because our insured could not duplicate your concerns with the vehicle at the shop, they needed to take it on a test drive at highway speeds and press the brakes. There was no reason to believe or know that the vehicle was going to start on fire and they did everything possible to put it out.

As you are aware, your vehicle has an aftermarket turbo. Whoever installed, allowed it to touch the brake
line. Although the turbo is secured with straps, it still shakes when the car is being driven. The shaking caused the
brake line to fray and brake fluid eventually leaked and hit the exhaust, hence starting a fire.

[rbpwrd240]

Boy you guys are easily swayed by PR B.S. I guess you guys think the dealership is going to be honest. LOL

Dont you realize the delayed response time was so that they could come up with the best sounding story? I guess I cant blame some of you as our government has been run the same way for a lot of years and many that are blinded by the P.R. B.S. and propaganda continue to vote in idiots; so.... Not surprised people are buying this load of B.S. Too.

Facts are still clear. They saw break fluid noticed the line and still drove the car causing a fire. Now after the service they want to back out on the deal because they screwed up. They took the car on with the turbo its too late to say now that they aren't liable.

[STR8 H8N]

Well I guess I will finally post over here.

Isamu, I saw this on zilvia and was feeling generous that day so I took it upon myself to help you out. I think its crap what the dealership is trying to pull here.

Originally I saw the post in the DIW section of zilvia. I did my research and decided that to me you were in the right. I went ahead and followed the FB link so I could leave my poor review and a few nice messages for them as well.

I do apologize for the Gen Pop of Zilvia. Honestly us old crustys call them that because most of them are hoonigan, zip tie, stance crew, loosers that are mostly under the age of 26. Meaning they haven't fully developed their social skills and most of the time a well meant conversation with one simply ends in frustration. Watch, one will probably slander me over on zilvia for this post only to further prove my point....

I have noticed a much better comrodary over here and I knew when I made my post on zilvia to help you raise awareness that I was taking a risk at being attacked myself. Careful wording did help to mitigate the possible risks I was taking as you can see in the thread that I had to defend my words multiple times. Again this is usual over there. Supporting members like myself even have a separate private part of the forum for paying members just to get real helpful advice without the BS and to get away from the gen poppers.

Anywho, here is how the situation reads to me. The Dealership contacted their insurance and of course neither want to take responsibility for the incident however the dealership did take on the job which makes them liable. Insurance writes a nice well thought out reply that helps to push responsibility from them or their "insured". This is obviously the primary goal and honestly if I had wrote the reply it would have been a lot better wording that would have been much harder to call Bull ****. Honestly this isnt their best work and I would be upset that they are trying such simple tactics to push you off.

We need five techs on here that are willing to say the truth!!! That you dont drive a car with a visible and known break leak until you find the source of the leak and attempt a repair. If you see the leak happening what tech in their right mind would take the car out to highway speeds and risk stepping on the pedal in someone elses car? Idiots...

With the proper lawyers the techs statements and your insurance company backing you I bet this gets resolved quickly. Make sure you keep track of time lost at work all your mental anguish and any expenses associated with this now possible law suit.

Here is how the rest of us can continue to help.

Ryan Nissan is family owned and the Ryan family does own

Ryan Nissan
Ryan Honda
Ryan Chevy
Ryan Cadillac

Here is how you can leave google reviews for the other dealerships.
https://www.google.com/?ion=1&espv=2...car+dealership


And for the nissan dealership
https://www.google.com/?ion=1&espv=2...car+dealership

Hopefully you guys have more resolve then the zilvia folks and will stick this out a bit longer. We need some more noise. Dont stop helping now. Also making YELP reviews is very damaging. If they want to hold out we will hold fast. lets at least make sure people know the kind of people they are dealing with down the road.


Also one thing to note. Not everyone on zilvia was a hater many actually did post on the FB page and in private many more support your cause. Heck I even got some side skirt hardware from a member cause he was so impressed by my genuine good will. So not all zilvia members are trolls but there are so many bad members that most of the good members stay quite and in the shadows more often then not.

WOW and that was my first post over here.

[driftsucky]

Originally Posted by EDT007

Clearly you can't have an adult discussion. It's called pushing the car into the shop dumbass! Use your head and stop trying to flex your internet muscles. I was clearly trying to say that in certain situations one must take extra precaution. You know, kind of how your parents didn't by not using contraception.

Well played sir. Well played. The old "your parents should wear a condom" ruse. Timeless shennanigans. Timeless. The name calling. Spot on sir. Spot on. Hats off to your adult handling


So, if someone DRIVES a car into your shop and then says "it'll catch on fire" (not that that happened, but since you didn't read the story, let's just assume it did), your next thought is to PUSH it when it runs and rives fine? Really? ooooooooooooooook.

[driftsucky]

Originally Posted by STR8 H8N

I have a thought. People who don't agree with me are wrong. The dealership said they didn't do it. I don't agree with them saying that so they're wrong. I don't know how to spell the word "brake" in the proper context. Zilvians are a bunch of tools. Please spend your lives, as I have, contacting a dealership and posting nasty messages on their social media. Hopefully this'll go viral and I'll get on the local news.

fixed it for ya

[EDT007]

Originally Posted by driftsucky

So, if someone DRIVES a car into your shop and then says "it'll catch on fire" (not that that happened, but since you didn't read the story, let's just assume it did), your next thought is to PUSH it when it runs and rives fine? Really? ooooooooooooooook.

Originally Posted by Isamu

They knew the engine bay was a fire hazard, they service manager made sure to point that out to me. He noted the fluid all over the turbo down pipe. Also, when I drove the car to the dealership, I had to drive slow, and downshift to slow down. There was little brake pressure. To claim they had no idea the car would catch fire is a slap in the face, and truly shows the lack of technical ability of the service center.

You clearly need your hand held with this conversation. YOU didn't read the full story/thread. The service manager KNEW of the leak and SAW the fluid on the car. This is the problem. They KNOWINGLY took the car out without repair and wondered how/why it caught fire. . To answer your question, if someone comes in with a leak of combustible fluid out of their car that I can visibly see, I don't care if they drove it there, I'll push it into the shop. Do your research before opening your mouth on something you clearly either can't read or comprehend.

[driftsucky]

Originally Posted by EDT007

You clearly need your hand held with this conversation. YOU didn't read the full story/thread. The service manager KNEW of the leak and SAW the fluid on the car. This is the problem. They KNOWINGLY took the car out without repair and wondered how/why it caught fire. . To answer your question, if someone comes in with a leak of combustible fluid out of their car that I can visibly see, I don't care if they drove it there, I'll push it into the shop. Do your research before opening your mouth on something you clearly either can't read or comprehend.

So, do brake leaks commonly catch on fire in your shop? I ask because I've seen brake fluid come out of cars and cars not catch on fire. Just trying to understand here.
Walk me thru your life

[EDT007]

That was your rebuttal . I'll be happy to explain this to you. When a combustible liquid like brake fluid is introduced to a very high temperature, scolding piece of metal like a turbo manifold. Yes, it can ignite. Brake fluid does not burn like gasoline but more like a slow, oil burn and not easily put out. A turbo manifold can easily reach an excess of 700-1000 degrees. Just because you never witnessed or don't know something doesn't mean it can't happen. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. This wasn't just a leaking brake master or caliper.

On a different note. You seem really interested in my life. Relax. I'm not interested in getting to know you. Enjoy searching for Internet memes and trolling people's threads.

[STR8 H8N]

Originally Posted by EDT007

That was your rebuttal . I'll be happy to explain this to you. When a combustible liquid like brake fluid is introduced to a very high temperature, scolding piece of metal like a turbo manifold. Yes, it can ignite. Brake fluid does not burn like gasoline but more like a slow, oil burn and not easily put out. A turbo manifold can easily reach an excess of 700-1000 degrees. Just because you never witnessed or don't know something doesn't mean it can't happen. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. This wasn't just a leaking brake master or caliper.

On a different note. You seem really interested in my life. Relax. I'm not interested in getting to know you. Enjoy searching for Internet memes and trolling people's threads.

https://www.facebook.com/rjmllc/phot...type=3&theater

[driftsucky]

Originally Posted by EDT007

That was your rebuttal . I'll be happy to explain this to you. When a combustible liquid like brake fluid is introduced to a very high temperature, scolding piece of metal like a turbo manifold. Yes, it can ignite. Brake fluid does not burn like gasoline but more like a slow, oil burn and not easily put out. A turbo manifold can easily reach an excess of 700-1000 degrees. Just because you never witnessed or don't know something doesn't mean it can't happen.

Nice. Thanks for that.

Originally Posted by EDT007

On a different note. You seem really interested in my life. Relax. I'm not interested in getting to know you. Enjoy searching for Internet memes and trolling people's threads.

THAT'S my favorite part.

[BoostyMcZface]

so much hate still. if it was YOUR car, and for whatever reason you took it to a dealer with a known fire hazard issue and the dealer KNEW TOO, and they caught your car on fire... wouldn't you be pissed? lol...

I lolled @ STR8 H8Ns post on the370z.

[driftsucky]

Originally Posted by BoostyMcZface

so much hate still. if it was YOUR car, and for whatever reason you took it to a dealer with a known fire hazard issue and the dealer KNEW TOO, and they caught your car on fire... wouldn't you be pissed? lol...

I lolled @ STR8 H8Ns post on the370z.

I wouldn't take my car anywhere with a known fire hazzard. I would get it towed because that's what adults do. And if it caught on fire, I'd use insurance to cover my end, get a new car, and have a beer. What I would NOT do is post on the internet about it because what is that REALLY going to do. But, that's me. Some people are perfectly fine doing the thing they did. And hats off to those people.