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mattrobertsxn · 08-08-2018, 07:01 PM

Well guys heres pictures. I have ZERO idea what it is and where it came from

There was small ones in pickup but im sure only some made it through the screen

Am i fucked what do i do i havent pulled timing cover and valve cover yet. Car wouldnt idle previous to this, i rebuilt it and timed it wrong so i pulled it again and this is the first thing i find out. What in the hell

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tb13 · 08-08-2018, 07:12 PM

Thats a timing chain guide. I'd suggest against trying to start or turn the engine over by hand since you timing chain probably has no tension on it currently. I've never seen this happen before, post pics of what it looks like once you get the front cover off. Best case scenario, you replace it and are good to go, worst case you bent valves and damaged pistons...

mattrobertsxn · 08-08-2018, 07:16 PM

Im not planning on pulling the head off. Do i need to i need this done in two days

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nisileighty · 08-08-2018, 07:24 PM

Timing chain guide/tensioner

*dawagarage* · 08-08-2018, 07:25 PM

yup, def timing chain guide.
google search the fsm, buy the part online (rockauto, etc) and get it fixed.

tb13 · 08-08-2018, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mattrobertsxn

Im not planning on pulling the head off. Do i need to i need this done in two days

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Best of luck. I would be pulling the head to inspect the valves after something like this, that guide ensures the chain stays tight, with enough slack your valves can kiss the pistons...

Pull the front cover and inspect before you do anything, I'd also pull the cams out at minimum to make sure all of the valves are returning properly and do a visual inspection into the intake and exhaust ports at bare minimum before you throw a new guide in and hope for the best.

mattrobertsxn · 08-08-2018, 08:22 PM

As suspected, was a timing guide. Guess when your 17 doing shit like this you have to learn the hard way not to cheap out on an ebay timing kit

Never again am i buying ebay shit for my motor lol.

So. I plan on ordering new tensioner. Replacing that and re timing it with a stock intake cam ( i have dual exhaust cam bs from previous owner which made it hell to try and time it. I think im going to send it and pray a valves not damaged. I dont have the money to have it rebuilt AGAIN for the head and dont want to bug my dad for $200 to get the head rebuilt with valves or have a shop inspect it.

Sound like a good plan? ^^

Thanks for help guys

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tb13 · 08-08-2018, 08:33 PM

I had assumed it was an SR, but since its a KA you might be okay. I say go for it, use OE parts this time and see how it goes.

Sailor · 08-09-2018, 08:05 AM

I left out the top chain guide on my rebuilt KA, from what i've read on this forum it only causes problems (breaks and falls into you pan like you've seen) . I've been running without the top chain guide for awhile now without issue

08-08-2018, 07:01 PM	#1
mattrobertsxn Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Mission Viejo CA Age: 23 Posts: 209 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Found plastic shards in oil pan Well guys heres pictures. I have ZERO idea what it is and where it came from There was small ones in pickup but im sure only some made it through the screen Am i fucked what do i do i havent pulled timing cover and valve cover yet. Car wouldnt idle previous to this, i rebuilt it and timed it wrong so i pulled it again and this is the first thing i find out. What in the hell Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-08-2018, 07:12 PM	#2
tb13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Arizona ٩( ᐛ )و Subaru Parts Consultant Age: 29 Posts: 848 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Thats a timing chain guide. I'd suggest against trying to start or turn the engine over by hand since you timing chain probably has no tension on it currently. I've never seen this happen before, post pics of what it looks like once you get the front cover off. Best case scenario, you replace it and are good to go, worst case you bent valves and damaged pistons... __________________

08-08-2018, 07:25 PM	#5
dawagarage Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bremerton, WA Age: 39 Posts: 2,037 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	yup, def timing chain guide. google search the fsm, buy the part online (rockauto, etc) and get it fixed. __________________ formerly known as "hotboiblaze" ratsun: dawa (73 datsun 620) clublexus: properD (97 sc300)

08-08-2018, 08:33 PM	#8
tb13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Arizona ٩( ᐛ )و Subaru Parts Consultant Age: 29 Posts: 848 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I had assumed it was an SR, but since its a KA you might be okay. I say go for it, use OE parts this time and see how it goes. __________________

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08-08-2018, 07:16 PM	#3
mattrobertsxn Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Mission Viejo CA Age: 23 Posts: 209 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Im not planning on pulling the head off. Do i need to i need this done in two days Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-08-2018, 07:24 PM	#4
nisileighty Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,218 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Timing chain guide/tensioner

08-08-2018, 08:22 PM	#7
mattrobertsxn Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Mission Viejo CA Age: 23 Posts: 209 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	As suspected, was a timing guide. Guess when your 17 doing shit like this you have to learn the hard way not to cheap out on an ebay timing kit Never again am i buying ebay shit for my motor lol. So. I plan on ordering new tensioner. Replacing that and re timing it with a stock intake cam ( i have dual exhaust cam bs from previous owner which made it hell to try and time it. I think im going to send it and pray a valves not damaged. I dont have the money to have it rebuilt AGAIN for the head and dont want to bug my dad for $200 to get the head rebuilt with valves or have a shop inspect it. Sound like a good plan? ^^ Thanks for help guys Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-09-2018, 08:05 AM	#9
Sailor Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: 56308 Posts: 109 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I left out the top chain guide on my rebuilt KA, from what i've read on this forum it only causes problems (breaks and falls into you pan like you've seen) . I've been running without the top chain guide for awhile now without issue