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ZilviaBot · 11-20-2008, 10:20 AM

11-20-2008 10:31 AM

It appears that GT-R owners won't have to worry about voiding their warranties if they use Launch Control -- for the 2010 model year, the car won't come with the feature. Inside Line is quoting a Nissan exec as saying "It's gone. We just don't want to deal with the warranty nightmare anymore. It'll make the 2009 GT-R really special. It'll be the only R35 with launch control."

We've previously reported cases where Nissan GT-R owners have brought their cars to the dealership with transmission trouble only to be told their warranties won't cover it. It turns out that disabling the car's VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) too often, in order to use the Launch Control function, meant Nissan wasn't covering the repairs. The cost to fix/replace the transmission is only $20,000, so you can imagine owners weren't too upset. Apparently the GT-R owner's manual states that damage to the transmission is not covered if it is proven to be the result of using Launch Control with the VDC turned off. In fact, the manual states that the only reason you should turn off VDC is to "rock" the vehicle when stuck in mud or snow. We await Nissan's revised performance numbers.

Thanks for the tip, Mike!

[Source: Inside Line]

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projectdrifter · 11-20-2008, 11:26 AM

so if it was such a nightmare (warranty) does that mean they are covering warranties. yes i know there has been a ton of topics covering this. only reason i ask is.

drift freaq · 11-20-2008, 12:05 PM

Nice black GTR , and I do not think they are covering launch control issues as its already stated in the warranty its not covered.

zaquanh · 11-20-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by projectdrifter

so if it was such a nightmare (warranty) does that mean they are covering warranties. yes i know there has been a ton of topics covering this. only reason i ask is.

they dont cover it in the warranty thats why there taking it off ,
so many people messed up there cars and nissan wouldnt warranty it , so to avoid the hassle of so many claims they juss take it off ,

i say dont use urs and trade it in for a 10' model lol

SexPanda · 11-20-2008, 01:31 PM

Good for them. You can never underestimate people's inability to read the owners manual, or do stupid thing. This is one little lesson nissan learned pretty quick I think.

ch1873857 · 11-20-2008, 02:01 PM

theres no reason to launch an AWD car like that anyway. how much more traction could you want/need off the line?

twotoes · 11-20-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZilviaBot

11-20-2008 10:31 AM

Nissan exec as saying "It's gone. We just don't want to deal with the warranty nightmare anymore."

Damn!....how many broke?

Dude with the black gtr keep it and dont drive it. Maybe in a year or two you will have the only gtr with launch control and a working transmission. THEN! sell it on barrett Jackson! lol

ch1873857 · 11-20-2008, 07:12 PM

MANY broke. i think someone even put a number on how many launches the tranny could hold up. 20 i think. ever been underneath one? there are so many moving parts. 2 f'ing driveshafts..not set up like the older gtrs at all. weight distribution is a plus though with the tranny in the rear

projekt_s13 · 11-20-2008, 07:18 PM

Damn dude...

Sportmaxes and a GTR, perfect combo. lol

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Originally Posted by projectdrifter

silviaguy240 · 11-20-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ch1873857

theres no reason to launch an AWD car like that anyway. how much more traction could you want/need off the line?

without proper launch control, 0-60 and 1/4 times are 1-2 seconds slower.

chris300zr · 11-20-2008, 08:35 PM

its because people do stupid shit like repeatedly launch there car over and over with VDC off thats causing this. You cant expect nissan to shell out cash everytime someone does something stupid with their car.

jskateborders · 11-20-2008, 09:20 PM

They shoulda built the tranny to hold the power. It seems like evo's and suby's dont have issues this bad, granted they dont have nearly the power, but hell, their also like a third the price...

Neejay · 11-20-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jskateborders

They shoulda built the tranny to hold the power. It seems like evo's and suby's dont have issues this bad, granted they dont have nearly the power, but hell, their also like a third the price...

I say the same thing. Either build the trannies to handle it, or don't put it there at all.

projectdrifter · 11-20-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by projekt_s13

Damn dude...

Sportmaxes and a GTR, perfect combo. lol

yea i know right just got the vert 1 month ago traded my gc8 for it.
hear are the rims i am putting on it just got them 2 weeks ago

also got a works9 aero and clear/red tail lights. its a daily driver..

hear is the other vert project

projectdrifter · 11-20-2008, 09:47 PM

i know the warranty is not covered.. im just wondering with the all these people buying them and using it and finding they are not covered. suprised there is not a class action law suit for those who have broken.

i know the red press car has 45 launches before it broke the ranny.

irax · 11-21-2008, 04:33 AM

it might have to do with the fact that it's such a limited production for the first year.

bloodangels13 · 11-21-2008, 08:06 AM

the aftermarket with eventually come up with something to add launch control to the 2010+ models.. im sure of that..

tacotacotaco · 11-21-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jskateborders

They shoulda built the tranny to hold the power. It seems like evo's and suby's dont have issues this bad, granted they dont have nearly the power, but hell, their also like a third the price...

Like i stated before when the evo's and wrx first started getting popular youll be surprised how many tranny issues there were. Especially honda owners moving over to awd and still driving awd cars by dumping the clutch and slamming their shifts. Maybe no one followed the problems with those cars because it was back in the day. But imagine the strain launching an almost 4k lb car awd to those speeds. Id like to see the price for a gtr then. Buy an evo and constantly rev up and launch off the line and tell me how the tranny holds up.

Also im not sure but don't quote me. The launch control was something that people figured out the car could do by pressing certain buttons. It wasnt exactly put into the car as an exclusive feature. More of like up up down down left right left right select start. If someone can research that and put it out in the clear.

projectdrifter · 11-21-2008, 12:44 PM

all you do is pressing everything inot r mode and wallla.. it enables it 4 you.

twotoes · 11-21-2008, 01:27 PM

I hope the performance numbers dont take to much of a hit, I think a better solution would be to leave launch control on the car but if you want to engage it, you would need to go to a nissan dealership and have it unlocked and in the process it would be known to you that your warranty would then be voided.

rc1honda · 11-21-2008, 02:56 PM

What a crap out, so instead of just beefing up the tranny we just get rid if it altogether. Wow what a way to totally tune down a great car. Way to go Nissan, so now not only is the car speed limited unless on a track, it now will have no launch feature to go a long with it's don't touch anything or void your warranty B.S. It's always somethig with Nissan either they donlt ship thier best to the US i.e. skyline, s15. Or when they do they wrap in so much red tape you need a swiss army knife just to get in the driver seat.... RANT

irax · 11-21-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rc1honda

What a crap out, so instead of just beefing up the tranny we just get rid if it altogether. Wow what a way to totally tune down a great car. Way to go Nissan, so now not only is the car speed limited unless on a track, it now will have no launch feature to go a long with it's don't touch anything or void your warranty B.S. It's always somethig with Nissan either they donlt ship thier best to the US i.e. skyline, s15. Or when they do they wrap in so much red tape you need a swiss army knife just to get in the driver seat.... RANT

actually if you kept up with the news, you would know that the '10 model not only comes with like... a 5% hp boost, but also a stronger transmission, and now without the whole launch control program as well the transmission should be a lot more reliable. I'm just waiting for some one to put an rb26 6speed and hook up the atessa and call it a day, or just make it a rwd car

irax · 11-21-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by projekt_s13

Damn dude...

Sportmaxes and a GTR, perfect combo. lol

clearly he kept his eyes on the prize.... id have a geo metro as a daily and have the gtr as just a weekend car.... but then i don't make that kind of money so it doesn't really matter.

EDacIouSX · 11-21-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by projectdrifter

so if it was such a nightmare (warranty) does that mean they are covering warranties. yes i know there has been a ton of topics covering this. only reason i ask is.

you know what makes me laugh? GTR with a s13 drop top rockin SPORT MAX wheels. lol

EDacIouSX · 11-21-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rc1honda

What a crap out, so instead of just beefing up the tranny we just get rid if it altogether. Wow what a way to totally tune down a great car. Way to go Nissan, so now not only is the car speed limited unless on a track, it now will have no launch feature to go a long with it's don't touch anything or void your warranty B.S. It's always somethig with Nissan either they donlt ship thier best to the US i.e. skyline, s15. Or when they do they wrap in so much red tape you need a swiss army knife just to get in the driver seat.... RANT

um dude, s15 is basically an s14 with some suspension mod. frames are the same....

and, a lot of it has to do with laws................... so what do you expect? even people in japan had to crack the ecu to remove the speed limit....

David Steele · 11-22-2008, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ch1873857

2 f'ing driveshafts..not set up like the older gtrs at all. weight distribution is a plus though with the tranny in the rear

The last 3 generation GTR had 2 driveshafts your point?

David Steele · 11-22-2008, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jskateborders

They shoulda built the tranny to hold the power. It seems like evo's and suby's dont have issues this bad, granted they dont have nearly the power, but hell, their also like a third the price...

Incorrect massive grip will break things, driving your production car like a race car will break things.

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Originally Posted by tacotacotaco

Like i stated before when the evo's and wrx first started getting popular youll be surprised how many tranny issues there were. Especially honda owners moving over to awd and still driving awd cars by dumping the clutch and slamming their shifts. Maybe no one followed the problems with those cars because it was back in the day. But imagine the strain launching an almost 4k lb car awd to those speeds. Id like to see the price for a gtr then. Buy an evo and constantly rev up and launch off the line and tell me how the tranny holds up.

Also im not sure but don't quote me. The launch control was something that people figured out the car could do by pressing certain buttons. It wasnt exactly put into the car as an exclusive feature. More of like up up down down left right left right select start. If someone can research that and put it out in the clear.

Incorrect it's not some sort of bypass it's software that was ment to come with the car (launch control) .

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Originally Posted by irax

I'm just waiting for some one to put an rb26 6speed and hook up the atessa and call it a day, or just make it a rwd car

It isn't any stronger. It's has the same internals as a 300zx transmission, and the attessa isn't the same .

irax · 11-22-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by David Steele

The last 3 generation GTR had 2 driveshafts your point?

no they didn't, they had 1 drive shaft and 4 axle shafts. Which is completely different than 2 drive shafts and 4 axle shafts.

and the older gtr transmission was a great transmission, i just brought it up because as far as i know it's nissans only manual awd transmission.

murda-c · 11-22-2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by irax

no they didn't, they had 1 drive shaft and 4 axle shafts. Which is completely different than 2 drive shafts and 4 axle shafts.

and the older gtr transmission was a great transmission, i just brought it up because as far as i know it's nissans only manual awd transmission.

How does power get from the transmission to the front diff?

irax · 11-22-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by murda-c

How does power get from the transmission to the front diff?

i'm pretty sure it's from an output shaft from the side of the transmission

but it wasn't from a drive shaft that connected from the rear transaxle that's for sure.

11-20-2008, 10:20 AM	#1
ZilviaBot Zilvia.net Bot Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 199 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nissan drops Launch Control from 2010 GT-R 11-20-2008 10:31 AM Filed under: Tech, Supercars, Nissan It appears that GT-R owners won't have to worry about voiding their warranties if they use Launch Control -- for the 2010 model year, the car won't come with the feature. Inside Line is quoting a Nissan exec as saying "It's gone. We just don't want to deal with the warranty nightmare anymore. It'll make the 2009 GT-R really special. It'll be the only R35 with launch control." We've previously reported cases where Nissan GT-R owners have brought their cars to the dealership with transmission trouble only to be told their warranties won't cover it. It turns out that disabling the car's VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) too often, in order to use the Launch Control function, meant Nissan wasn't covering the repairs. The cost to fix/replace the transmission is only $20,000, so you can imagine owners weren't too upset. Apparently the GT-R owner's manual states that damage to the transmission is not covered if it is proven to be the result of using Launch Control with the VDC turned off. In fact, the manual states that the only reason you should turn off VDC is to "rock" the vehicle when stuck in mud or snow. We await Nissan's revised performance numbers. Thanks for the tip, Mike! [Source: Inside Line] Nissan drops Launch Control from 2010 GT-R originally appeared on Autoblog on Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:31:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds. ReadÂ\|ÂPermalinkÂ\|ÂEmail thisÂ\|ÂComments More...

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projectdrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: myrtle beach,south carolina Posts: 932 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so if it was such a nightmare (warranty) does that mean they are covering warranties. yes i know there has been a ton of topics covering this. only reason i ask is. __________________ Mouth of the South There are a few mailboxes that have been looking at me the wrong way, lately. Nothing goes unchecked.

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SexPanda Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Where ever there is free beer Posts: 3,239 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good for them. You can never underestimate people's inability to read the owners manual, or do stupid thing. This is one little lesson nissan learned pretty quick I think. __________________ BRAND NEW GReddy PRofec E-01 EBC for sale, Cheap!

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jskateborders Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Age: 35 Posts: 1,258 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	They shoulda built the tranny to hold the power. It seems like evo's and suby's dont have issues this bad, granted they dont have nearly the power, but hell, their also like a third the price... __________________ "I am Norwegian, and are not familiar with your urban words :P"

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ch1873857 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Andrews Air Force Base Posts: 1,906 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	theres no reason to launch an AWD car like that anyway. how much more traction could you want/need off the line?

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ch1873857 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Andrews Air Force Base Posts: 1,906 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	MANY broke. i think someone even put a number on how many launches the tranny could hold up. 20 i think. ever been underneath one? there are so many moving parts. 2 f'ing driveshafts..not set up like the older gtrs at all. weight distribution is a plus though with the tranny in the rear

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chris300zr Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: no dimples. Posts: 573 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	its because people do stupid shit like repeatedly launch there car over and over with VDC off thats causing this. You cant expect nissan to shell out cash everytime someone does something stupid with their car.

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projectdrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: myrtle beach,south carolina Posts: 932 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i know the warranty is not covered.. im just wondering with the all these people buying them and using it and finding they are not covered. suprised there is not a class action law suit for those who have broken. i know the red press car has 45 launches before it broke the ranny. __________________ Mouth of the South There are a few mailboxes that have been looking at me the wrong way, lately. Nothing goes unchecked.

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projectdrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: myrtle beach,south carolina Posts: 932 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	all you do is pressing everything inot r mode and wallla.. it enables it 4 you. __________________ Mouth of the South There are a few mailboxes that have been looking at me the wrong way, lately. Nothing goes unchecked.

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twotoes Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kansas City Age: 36 Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I hope the performance numbers dont take to much of a hit, I think a better solution would be to leave launch control on the car but if you want to engage it, you would need to go to a nissan dealership and have it unlocked and in the process it would be known to you that your warranty would then be voided.

11-21-2008, 02:56 PM	#21
rc1honda Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicago Age: 42 Posts: 433 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	What a crap out, so instead of just beefing up the tranny we just get rid if it altogether. Wow what a way to totally tune down a great car. Way to go Nissan, so now not only is the car speed limited unless on a track, it now will have no launch feature to go a long with it's don't touch anything or void your warranty B.S. It's always somethig with Nissan either they donlt ship thier best to the US i.e. skyline, s15. Or when they do they wrap in so much red tape you need a swiss army knife just to get in the driver seat.... RANT