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PoorMans180SX · 10-05-2017, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan@Fontananissan

well choke / surge aside. after 5000 RPM you're outside the efficiency range, and with that much boost AIT's would not be ideal either. so close to peak torque would probably make the car real knock sensitive too. I think the S300 is overall a good starting point for any engine 3L and up.

Yeah exactly. While I don’t plan on doing a lot of limiter bouncing, it will be nice to have IAT’s stay in check when I’m blasting down the straight at Gingerman. While part of me wants the insta-spool, having a reliable package and a nice flat torque curve are probably more important. I can always add anti-lag if I don’t think it spools flast enough

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I really only plan on makin 400whp, as any more than that and it’ll blow through tires too fast and possibly compromise transmission components. I’m sure someday I’ll want to turn it up. Maybe when I build the DE hah.

PoorMans180SX · 10-29-2017, 03:20 PM

Finally drilled out all the welds on the seat brackets.

Removing those stupid weights on the front of an S13 subframe resulted in me cutting through my bushing mounts. Oh well, I'll be reinforcing these anyway.

blocks on blocks.

Prepping the rear subframe for GKTech's rear subframe reinforcement plates and a few other modifications. Then it'll be off to be stripped to bare steel.

PoorMans180SX · 03-01-2018, 07:56 AM

If you've bought the "Contano" 5-lug conversion hubs, do yourself a favor and repack them with quality grease. I caught this one just in time to save it.

Shortened by Q45 output shafts so I won't have issues running Z33 axles. This was a major pain.

conrad_s13.5 · 03-06-2018, 02:28 PM

Quality shit man, glad to see youre still at it!

PoorMans180SX · 03-06-2018, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by conrad_s13.5

Quality shit man, glad to see youre still at it!

Thanks man!

__________________________________________________ ________________________

Man, I just read through this thread for the first time in a long time, and some of my responses or ideas make me cringe. Funny how many things change in 5 years.

Big news coming soon.

240KA · 03-06-2018, 09:20 PM

sorry havent read the whole thread....so you run those contano 5lug hubs on the track with decent success? are those the 240sxconversions.com hubs?

good to know. wont be so worried to give them a try now.

tuzzio · 03-07-2018, 08:03 AM

ugh, sell me that stealth fab RSTB.

No luck getting in contact with him.

PoorMans180SX · 03-07-2018, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 240KA

sorry havent read the whole thread....so you run those contano 5lug hubs on the track with decent success? are those the 240sxconversions.com hubs?

good to know. wont be so worried to give them a try now.

Yeah just repack them with quality grease.

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Originally Posted by tuzzio

ugh, sell me that stealth fab RSTB.

No luck getting in contact with him.

I can do that. Took me forever to get a hold of him but I’m caging the car soon...

TheRealSy90 · 03-07-2018, 02:59 PM

Do those Contano 5 lug hubs not come with packed bearings?

PoorMans180SX · 03-07-2018, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

Do those Contano 5 lug hubs not come with packed bearings?

They are packed with this waxy green grease. The one you see that’s discolored was on my car for about 30,000 miles.

PoorMans180SX · 03-11-2018, 03:02 PM

Refreshing the bores on the VG and measuring bearing clearances before I put it back together and in the car. I'm convinced a lot of the "oiling" issues these engines experience are from people running factory clearances on higher powered engines.

Pin bores needed some honing to be truly "floating".

PoorMans180SX · 03-12-2018, 07:27 PM

350Z steering rack showed up. Now things get interesting.

PoorMans180SX · 03-13-2018, 11:16 AM

These may or may not be mine.

TheRealSy90 · 03-13-2018, 11:20 AM

I wonder if the weld-on steering rack clamps that Villains sells would also fit around that Z rack after removing the mounting ears from it. I think Bink has rack clamps as well.
Curious on the difference in total rack travel between the two, with and without tie rods installed since they both can make use of tie rod spacers.

PoorMans180SX · 03-13-2018, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

I wonder if the weld-on steering rack clamps that Villains sells would also fit around that Z rack after removing the mounting ears from it. I think Bink has rack clamps as well.
Curious on the difference in total rack travel between the two, with and without tie rods installed since they both can make use of tie rod spacers.

I'm definitely going to be doing a lot of measuring and figuring before I start cutting stuff up, so you'll have your answers here in a bit!

PoorMans180SX · 03-16-2018, 05:43 AM

More boring parts updates:

Still have to box these in.

Motary · 03-16-2018, 05:59 AM

Moooooore pictures!

PoorMans180SX · 03-16-2018, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Motary

Moooooore pictures!

If you say so.

I dropped my rear subframe, front subframe, and homemade tension rod brace off at the local derusting place. They're going to strip them down to bare metal. Really excited to work on those and get the shell rolling again, so it can come to the shop and I can start on the cage!

Current state of affairs:

PoorMans180SX · 03-23-2018, 06:25 AM

Cage material showed up.

Picked up my subframes.

GKtech's subframe reinforcement kit.

That was a good brush up on my TIG skills. Still need work.

Fancy picture of FEAL with GKtech offset strut top for no reason.

PoorMans180SX · 03-29-2018, 06:36 AM

My 61mm S300SXE came in today and Dylan decided to take fancy pictures of my parts:

New wheels also came. Motegi MR135.

PoorMans180SX · 03-29-2018, 06:03 PM

Finished reinforcing my subframe and filled it with foam since the inside is now bare metal from the acid dip.

PoorMans180SX · 03-31-2018, 08:06 AM

We'll get to the actual build portion here shortly, feel like I've been posting pictures of parts forever lol.

Foam is cured. Gotta finish up my front subframe mods and then paint them.

Running 17x8.5+25 in the front (probably with a spacer of some sort), and 18x9.5+15 in the rear. Really want to run a 9" wheel up front, but budget dictates I run some cheap wheels for the time being haha.

RalliartRsX · 03-31-2018, 08:27 AM

How much to those weigh?

EFITTZY · 03-31-2018, 10:18 AM

Looking forward to cage fab pics

PoorMans180SX · 03-31-2018, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

How much to those weigh?

20lbs for the 17s. Haven’t weighed the 18s yet.

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Originally Posted by EFITTZY

Looking forward to cage fab pics

🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻!

PoorMans180SX · 03-31-2018, 02:54 PM

Reinforced FLCA mounts. One was starting to oval from lateral force.

90S13 · 04-02-2018, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

If you've bought the "Contano" 5-lug conversion hubs, do yourself a favor and repack them with quality grease. I caught this one just in time to save it.

Prior to doing the repacking of grease to the contano hubs did you have any issues with the hub "working" its way out of the bearing? Ive had two fresh sets start to come apart after putting a couple miles on them, scary stuff.

scottie · 04-02-2018, 05:25 PM

Pro Tip: When cutting out the sleeve for the subframe bushings, cut on the side that is fully welded. This way a slight mishap isn’t a big deal. Progress looks good!

PoorMans180SX · 04-03-2018, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 90S13

Prior to doing the repacking of grease to the contano hubs did you have any issues with the hub "working" its way out of the bearing? Ive had two fresh sets start to come apart after putting a couple miles on them, scary stuff.

I'm even sure how that can happen?! The axle or the stub hold them in place, how can they move laterally at all?

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Originally Posted by scottie

Pro Tip: When cutting out the sleeve for the subframe bushings, cut on the side that is fully welded. This way a slight mishap isn’t a big deal. Progress looks good!

Haha, thanks. I've had solid bushings in this car for over a year. There was so much galvanic action I just cut them out. I'll be epoxying them back into place, so a cut in the bushing sleeve is no big deal!

90S13 · 04-04-2018, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

I'm even sure how that can happen?! The axle or the stub hold them in place, how can they move laterally at all?

I asked myself that same question, it was like the hub came off of the wheel bearing and started to work its way out. There was in and out play when I would push the hub back into the bearing, while bolted to the car! Both times the axle nuts were loosened from the play even after I had torqued them originally. I have video and pics that ill dig up later.

10-29-2017, 03:20 PM	#332
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Finally drilled out all the welds on the seat brackets. Removing those stupid weights on the front of an S13 subframe resulted in me cutting through my bushing mounts. Oh well, I'll be reinforcing these anyway. blocks on blocks. Prepping the rear subframe for GKTech's rear subframe reinforcement plates and a few other modifications. Then it'll be off to be stripped to bare steel. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-01-2018, 07:56 AM	#333
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	If you've bought the "Contano" 5-lug conversion hubs, do yourself a favor and repack them with quality grease. I caught this one just in time to save it. Shortened by Q45 output shafts so I won't have issues running Z33 axles. This was a major pain. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-06-2018, 02:28 PM	#334
conrad_s13.5 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: STL Age: 36 Posts: 1,533 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Quality shit man, glad to see youre still at it! __________________ cONtRol FReAkS

03-11-2018, 03:02 PM	#341
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Refreshing the bores on the VG and measuring bearing clearances before I put it back together and in the car. I'm convinced a lot of the "oiling" issues these engines experience are from people running factory clearances on higher powered engines. Pin bores needed some honing to be truly "floating". __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-12-2018, 07:27 PM	#342
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	350Z steering rack showed up. Now things get interesting. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-06-2018, 09:20 PM	#336
240KA Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: OK Age: 40 Posts: 809 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	sorry havent read the whole thread....so you run those contano 5lug hubs on the track with decent success? are those the 240sxconversions.com hubs? good to know. wont be so worried to give them a try now.

03-07-2018, 08:03 AM	#337
tuzzio Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 2,604 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	ugh, sell me that stealth fab RSTB. No luck getting in contact with him.

03-13-2018, 11:16 AM	#343
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	These may or may not be mine. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-16-2018, 05:43 AM	#346
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	More boring parts updates: Still have to box these in. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-16-2018, 05:59 AM	#347
Motary Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Estonia Age: 35 Posts: 450 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Moooooore pictures! __________________ GKTech

03-23-2018, 06:25 AM	#349
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Cage material showed up. Picked up my subframes. GKtech's subframe reinforcement kit. That was a good brush up on my TIG skills. Still need work. Fancy picture of FEAL with GKtech offset strut top for no reason. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-29-2018, 06:36 AM	#350
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	My 61mm S300SXE came in today and Dylan decided to take fancy pictures of my parts: New wheels also came. Motegi MR135. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-29-2018, 06:03 PM	#351
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Finished reinforcing my subframe and filled it with foam since the inside is now bare metal from the acid dip. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-31-2018, 08:06 AM	#352
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	We'll get to the actual build portion here shortly, feel like I've been posting pictures of parts forever lol. Foam is cured. Gotta finish up my front subframe mods and then paint them. Running 17x8.5+25 in the front (probably with a spacer of some sort), and 18x9.5+15 in the rear. Really want to run a 9" wheel up front, but budget dictates I run some cheap wheels for the time being haha. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-31-2018, 08:27 AM	#353
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,791 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	How much to those weigh?

03-31-2018, 10:18 AM	#354
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03-31-2018, 02:54 PM	#356
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Reinforced FLCA mounts. One was starting to oval from lateral force. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

04-02-2018, 05:25 PM	#358
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