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nd240sx3 · 07-10-2004, 06:07 PM

ok well now that that is done what else can i remove from my engine bay i dont need, but still be able to drive while i wait for turbo ka completion anyone know what the big silver box shaped thing is in the back corner nearest the windsheild on passenger side? also wanted to relocate battery is there a hole somewhere in the firewall to run the wire? thanx

Maeda · 07-10-2004, 10:05 PM

take out your...
AC compressor
Associated lines (then you'll have a place to run your wire)
AC condenser
Cruise control
Sort and simplify the vaccuum system
Remove the heat and ac from under the dash
Clip associated wiring and unecissary circuits (be careful and work slowly)
Remove the fuses from the removed crap (makes trouble shooting easier)
Clutch fan + shroud and wire the a/c fan to run full time
All the cardboard crap on the underside of the hood
Washer fluid reservior
Anything resembling plastic lineing (fender lineing, etc.)

Other then the engine bay
Gut the interior (only a dash, drivers door panel and maybe center console are necissary, that means no carpet, pass seat, pass door piece, ac control crap, rear anything, headliner, spare, etc.)
Ditch the sound deadning (40$ of dry ice + hammer)
Antenna assembly crap
Radio + speakers + amps
Any wiring not important to the running of the car
Keep a floor mat so you don't burn your feet or leg

The silver box you speak of sounds like the ECU to me. No you can't remove that.

Good luck on the KAT.

nd240sx3 · 07-10-2004, 10:17 PM

in the engine bay and i looked at it again and its got a couple of brake lines runnin to it from the brake master cylinder buts its also got a few more lines i dunno what they do maybe it for hicas beats me hope someone can tell me what it is and thanx for all the the stuff i can remove i had no clue where to start. heaters gotta stay gets cold in the winter and back seat also gots to stay i gotta a kid to cart around anyway thanx

ICKY · 07-11-2004, 06:24 AM

If its a daily driver, i wouldnt reccomend taking out the sound deadning, A/C, and the sound stuff (unless you dont like music).

Colorado S14 · 07-11-2004, 01:21 PM

That silver box is your ABS leave it you lucky bastard I want ABS.

ryan hagen · 07-11-2004, 05:48 PM

want abs? i know someone who has all the garbage removed

Maeda · 07-14-2004, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ICKY

If its a daily driver, i wouldnt reccomend taking out the sound deadning, A/C, and the sound stuff (unless you dont like music).

Why not?

A/C? Use god's ac. It's called rolling down a window.
Sound deadning? Dead weight. Ditch it
Speakers for a daily driver is up to your preference...

Don't be a puss. I'l be daily driving my gutted to nothing, no ac no stereo car. I know of a few others doing it as well.

Your car will be...
more responsive (less load on the suspension)
more powerful (less load on the engine)
clean under the dash and under the hood. Less junk to move your hands around when fixing things that matter.

Sounds worth it to me.

brage · 07-15-2004, 10:29 AM

Is this a daily driver or a track car?

J_Spec · 07-15-2004, 10:49 AM

My car is almost completely gutted don't even have door panels or center console. Gotta find somewhere that sells dry ice tho. It does feel ten times better when driving and drifting is SO much more fun. The tail whips back and forth effortlessly. Haven't taken out the A/C tho, damn black leather seats!!!! I took out my spare, headliner... I'll post pics after i put on my suspenion today. need to clean up the wires tho. I don't want ABS i might sell it, took the fuse out already.

ps I love the sound of the exhasut now. Everyone told me my exhaust was loud as hell but i never heard it until i took out everything now i agree with them haha. tanabe racing medalion

peaCe,
Jesse

brage · 07-15-2004, 10:54 AM

IMHO it is retarded to gut a car unless it is a track only car. Removing all of that shit gives you minimal gain. Especially if you are turbo... turn up the boost 2psi and you just negated all of gutting. Your car will be loud as hell inside, etc... Not worth it.

shoes59 · 07-15-2004, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brage

IMHO it is retarded to gut a car unless it is a track only car. Removing all of that shit gives you minimal gain. Especially if you are turbo... turn up the boost 2psi and you just negated all of gutting. Your car will be loud as hell inside, etc... Not worth it.

Exactly. Gutting anything but a full blown race car or even a weekend warrior is complete nonsense. Unless of course you enjoy a car that's insanely loud, hot and has no creature comfort.

aznpoopy · 07-15-2004, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nd240sx3

i gotta a kid to cart around anyway thanx

dude maybe you should worry about basic maintenance and safety, esp if you're driving a kid around in the car all the time. if you can't tell that the big box with brake lines running out of it is your ABS, you definitely NEED to do more research instead of blindly listening to what people tell you to do on a forum.

rps13sh · 07-15-2004, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nd240sx3

ok well now that that is done what else can i remove from my engine bay i dont need, but still be able to drive while i wait for turbo ka completion anyone know what the big silver box shaped thing is in the back corner nearest the windsheild on passenger side? also wanted to relocate battery is there a hole somewhere in the firewall to run the wire? thanx

what kinda turbo kit are you planning to get? i happen to have a kit for KA24DE. comes with nsport fmic, t04 ai research turbo, forged pistons plus a KA24DE s14 motor and tranny. Motor has a broken rod. other than that it is repairable. pulled the motor and swapped to SR so its no longer needed.

Maeda · 07-16-2004, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brage

IMHO it is retarded to gut a car unless it is a track only car. Removing all of that shit gives you minimal gain. Especially if you are turbo... turn up the boost 2psi and you just negated all of gutting. Your car will be loud as hell inside, etc... Not worth it.

You sir are a fucking moron.

How does turning up the boost 2 psi make my suspension and brake loads less?
Think before you talk.

Maeda · 07-16-2004, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoes59

Exactly. Gutting anything but a full blown race car or even a weekend warrior is complete nonsense. Unless of course you enjoy a car that's insanely loud, hot and has no creature comfort.

You too.
Especially for the weekend warrior comment.

240Driver39 · 07-16-2004, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoes59

Exactly. Gutting anything but a full blown race car or even a weekend warrior is complete nonsense. Unless of course you enjoy a car that's insanely loud, hot and has no creature comfort.

agreed, and its not being a pussy removing everything in the car, i just think its more logical for a lot of people, cars can be a lot of fun yet still serve other functions besides blasting around the streets/track/whatever. Like mine, i have fun with it, but it still takes me 430 miles back and forth to school several times a year and even tho i dont even use the ac, its good to have there. Eh..i like my interior.

Maeda · 07-16-2004, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 240Driver39

Eh..i like my interior.

Now don't you feel better that you've admitted that?

I like my performance. I want my car to have 100% of its potential so therefor I hate interiors.

Blues13 · 07-16-2004, 04:20 AM

Everyone's got their preferences for a daily driver.. I know if I was living down in LA still, I'd be scrambling to my AC back.. it ain't fun when your dripping wet in traffic while everyone's got their windows up. It all depends where u live, where u drive, and what your attitude is about looking like an ass when its 90+ degrees out in traffic.

andrave · 07-16-2004, 09:34 AM

it depends on the kind of driving you do. For instance, I hate being stuck at traffic lights. So I don't drive in the city. I drive, park, and then walk where I need to go. So if I'm moving, air is moving through the windows. Then I park and don't get stuck in standstill traffic. So I don't need AC so much.

240_keyy · 07-16-2004, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maeda

Why not?

A/C? Use god's ac. It's called rolling down a window.
Sound deadning? Dead weight. Ditch it
Speakers for a daily driver is up to your preference...

Don't be a puss. I'l be daily driving my gutted to nothing, no ac no stereo car. I know of a few others doing it as well.

Your car will be...
more responsive (less load on the suspension)
more powerful (less load on the engine)
clean under the dash and under the hood. Less junk to move your hands around when fixing things that matter.

Sounds worth it to me.

This is absolutly beautiful, it brings a tear to my eye

I haven't had a stereo in three years, and an AC for about 2 years now, And this is in my crazy dorifto track/street car. I am glad someone else sees it my way.

Maeda · 07-16-2004, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240_keyy

This is absolutly beautiful, it brings a tear to my eye

I haven't had a stereo in three years, and an AC for about 2 years now, And this is in my crazy dorifto track/street car. I am glad someone else sees it my way.

Theres a lot of us. I'm just very very adament.

My roommate drives an 86 GTS.

NOTHING. Just the top half of the dash and a nice bucket.
He even removed his headlights and replaced them with nice hella head lights because it saved 20 pounds. No power steering. He even cut out the truck skeleton. Single sheet CF hood with almost no resin.

I can stand in the engine bay with the motor in it. It's beautiful. I wouldn't drive it though. 86's are a little too jittery for my tastes.

07-10-2004, 06:07 PM	#1
nd240sx3 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: warminster pa Age: 43 Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	removal of emission stuff is done what next? ok well now that that is done what else can i remove from my engine bay i dont need, but still be able to drive while i wait for turbo ka completion anyone know what the big silver box shaped thing is in the back corner nearest the windsheild on passenger side? also wanted to relocate battery is there a hole somewhere in the firewall to run the wire? thanx

07-10-2004, 10:05 PM	#2
Maeda Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Camp Snake Bite, CA RIP Posts: 2,356 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Maeda Feedback Score: 0 reviews	take out your... AC compressor Associated lines (then you'll have a place to run your wire) AC condenser Cruise control Sort and simplify the vaccuum system Remove the heat and ac from under the dash Clip associated wiring and unecissary circuits (be careful and work slowly) Remove the fuses from the removed crap (makes trouble shooting easier) Clutch fan + shroud and wire the a/c fan to run full time All the cardboard crap on the underside of the hood Washer fluid reservior Anything resembling plastic lineing (fender lineing, etc.) Other then the engine bay Gut the interior (only a dash, drivers door panel and maybe center console are necissary, that means no carpet, pass seat, pass door piece, ac control crap, rear anything, headliner, spare, etc.) Ditch the sound deadning (40$ of dry ice + hammer) Antenna assembly crap Radio + speakers + amps Any wiring not important to the running of the car Keep a floor mat so you don't burn your feet or leg The silver box you speak of sounds like the ECU to me. No you can't remove that. Good luck on the KAT. __________________

07-10-2004, 10:17 PM	#3
nd240sx3 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: warminster pa Age: 43 Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ecu is in the car i was talkin bout in the engine bay and i looked at it again and its got a couple of brake lines runnin to it from the brake master cylinder buts its also got a few more lines i dunno what they do maybe it for hicas beats me hope someone can tell me what it is and thanx for all the the stuff i can remove i had no clue where to start. heaters gotta stay gets cold in the winter and back seat also gots to stay i gotta a kid to cart around anyway thanx

07-11-2004, 05:48 PM	#6
ryan hagen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: rhinelander wisconsin Age: 41 Posts: 1,465 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	want abs? i know someone who has all the garbage removed __________________ 1990 hatch ka24de gt2871r

07-11-2004, 06:24 AM	#4
ICKY Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Va Beach Age: 36 Posts: 582 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If its a daily driver, i wouldnt reccomend taking out the sound deadning, A/C, and the sound stuff (unless you dont like music).

07-11-2004, 01:21 PM	#5
Colorado S14 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denver, CO Age: 40 Posts: 192 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That silver box is your ABS leave it you lucky bastard I want ABS.

07-15-2004, 10:29 AM	#8
brage Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 181 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is this a daily driver or a track car?

07-15-2004, 10:49 AM	#9
J_Spec Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My car is almost completely gutted don't even have door panels or center console. Gotta find somewhere that sells dry ice tho. It does feel ten times better when driving and drifting is SO much more fun. The tail whips back and forth effortlessly. Haven't taken out the A/C tho, damn black leather seats!!!! I took out my spare, headliner... I'll post pics after i put on my suspenion today. need to clean up the wires tho. I don't want ABS i might sell it, took the fuse out already. ps I love the sound of the exhasut now. Everyone told me my exhaust was loud as hell but i never heard it until i took out everything now i agree with them haha. tanabe racing medalion peaCe, Jesse

07-15-2004, 10:54 AM	#10
brage Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 181 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	IMHO it is retarded to gut a car unless it is a track only car. Removing all of that shit gives you minimal gain. Especially if you are turbo... turn up the boost 2psi and you just negated all of gutting. Your car will be loud as hell inside, etc... Not worth it.

07-16-2004, 04:20 AM	#18
Blues13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: OC Posts: 435 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Everyone's got their preferences for a daily driver.. I know if I was living down in LA still, I'd be scrambling to my AC back.. it ain't fun when your dripping wet in traffic while everyone's got their windows up. It all depends where u live, where u drive, and what your attitude is about looking like an ass when its 90+ degrees out in traffic.

07-16-2004, 09:34 AM	#19
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it depends on the kind of driving you do. For instance, I hate being stuck at traffic lights. So I don't drive in the city. I drive, park, and then walk where I need to go. So if I'm moving, air is moving through the windows. Then I park and don't get stuck in standstill traffic. So I don't need AC so much.