Hybrid s13/s14 valve covers

[mark@union]

Lurking around I've heard a couple people make reference to creating a hybrid s13/s14 valve cover. I've searched a couple times, and really can't come up with much actual information on them.

What I've got so far is.... something to do with cleaning up the catch can setup, MA motorsports does it, and it is awesome.

Thats all I can find out though.

Anyone running them? heard of it? know what exactly it accomplishes?

I've got a couple spare valve covers lying around, and the idea keeps running through my head.

thanks!

[240trainee]

I have one, Brian W of MA-motorsports made it for me.

The S14 VC has internal baffling. The S13 doesn't, hence the black box in line with the crank case vent.

This way you can use the fully baffled VC on an S13 motor.

[SoSideways]

The S14/S15 covers have a much better baffle in there to catch the oil, thus eliminating the need for an external oil catch can setup.

However, since the S14/S15 valve cover won't physically bolt up to the S13 head due to the extended piece in front of the intake cam for the NVCS setup, you'll need to cut the S14/S15 valve cover up and weld the S13 piece there so that the valve cover will bolt up to the S13 head.

There.

[mark@union]

So does that mean you can eliminate the catch can setup entirely?

Do you happen to have any pictures of what the final installed product looks like?

[jandysil80]

who's got pics?

[s15specR]

Originally Posted by .white240.

So does that mean you can eliminate the catch can setup entirely?

Do you happen to have any pictures of what the final installed product looks like?

dont think so, I still get a light mist of oil out of my valve cover every now and then when the catch can hose isn't connected

[landins13]

doing this wont completelly eliminate the need for a catch can, it primarily just helps to keep less oil from ending up in the catch can. the baffles in the s14/s15 valve covers help to redirect splash up oil back onto the camshafts and thus back into the motor.

i have seen a couple of these down at ma but i dont have any pics, ive gotta go talk to brian so i can take a picture when im there, if someone doesnt post one before then.

[240trainee]

No, should still run a catch can.

But, it eliminates the black box.

Here is Johny5's





Brian W's




Normally I would talk shit about not searching, but who the fuck knows what you would search for, hahahahaha.

[sillyvia13]

wouldnt it be easier to weld a piece inside valve cover? like a baffle plate into s13 cover?

Ionno about chopping a valve cover on outside? and rewelding... you can..but... if you can easily weld a piece inside your good...

Pics.
please

[sillyvia13]

NICE FUCKING SHIT!

I retract staement above looooooooks fucking sick

Dudes got some skilllz.
I dig the piece he used for crankcase breather on vc, I love recycling those things! shit I love recycling everything.

[240trainee]

Yea, the reason the S14 VC has a hump is to make room for the baffles, couldn't do that on an S13 VC.

I'm gonna be running -an crank case venting. eat that shit. lol.

[Om1kron]

thats nice but probably too baller for my tastes.

[240trainee]

I'm just stupid

not baller.

[sillyvia13]

where the fuck did they weld em? no fucking sign anywhere....
DANg...

I under stand the humps part for baffle, but why couldnt you do it to s13?
I am tired up for 36 hours? so I am having a hard time figuring it out...lol
I need sleep...lol
Fucking drunk on sleep loss

[Om1kron]

Originally Posted by sillyvia13

where the fuck did they weld em? no fucking sign anywhere....
DANg...

I under stand the humps part for baffle, but why couldnt you do it to s13?
I am tired up for 36 hours? so I am having a hard time figuring it out...lol
I need sleep...lol
Fucking drunk on sleep loss

cough *s14 valve color is taller = more room for shit to slosh around* cough

must be that new obvious cold going around... better rest now.

[OBEEWON]

How much is this?

[A Spec Products]

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

How much is this?

Hit up Brian @ MA-Motorsports

[240trainee]

Originally Posted by A Spec Products

Hit up Brian @ MA-Motorsports

Yep. iirc it was something like $180-$200

[Brian W.]

Originally Posted by 240trainee

Yep. iirc it was something like $180-$200

Hi, We cut and weld it over the timing chain area. It was a pain in the ass on the first one(my green one) to set up the jig to cut them straight every time, but we got it. Not only that but welding 15 year old oil saturated cast aluminum is not fun! Regardless we weld the top, grind the weld off, then epoxy the inside. You send us $200(totally worth it for the labor involved) + 1 s13 valve cover + 1 s14 valve cover and you get an S13.4 cover back.




due to the material being so porous we sometimes get a couple little imperfections in the top, but its no big deal. barely noticeable.

[Slidin240Wayz]

Originally Posted by 240trainee

Yep. iirc it was something like $180-$200

depending on the cores and shit.

[240trainee]

edit: Already posted.

[Sleepy240]

That is so hot, I may need to cop me one of theseee

[Om1kron]

Originally Posted by Brian W.

Hi, We cut and weld it over the timing chain area. It was a pain in the ass on the first one(my green one) to set up the jig to cut them straight every time, but we got it. Not only that but welding 15 year old oil saturated cast aluminum is not fun! Regardless we weld the top, grind the weld off, then epoxy the inside. You send us $200(totally worth it for the labor involved) + 1 s13 valve cover + 1 s14 valve cover and you get an S13.4 cover back.




due to the material being so porous we sometimes get a couple little imperfections in the top, but its no big deal. barely noticeable.

so someone sends you 200 bucks and both cores and they get that back... sounds pricey. Not a lot of s14 valve covers floating around these days.

[fromxtor]

I would do something like this but I already have AN fittings welded onto my S13 VC and have a catch can setup.

[Brian W.]

Originally Posted by Om1kron

so someone sends you 200 bucks and both cores and they get that back... sounds pricey. Not a lot of s14 valve covers floating around these days.

i dont really see it as pricey. i put about 3 hours into them. Our hourly shop rate is $90.00 per hour so thats actually cheaper than a one off part. Its not for everyone, but it works very well for those willing to pay for one.

and you are correct in that S14 valve covers are harder to come by. Its something i did, then i had other people interested in one so why not offer it as a service?

[Sleepy240]

the price is pretty reasonable considering the work involved... above all else its baller points! AN fittings on the VC are sexy btw I kinda wanna do that

[Brian W.]

Originally Posted by Sleepy240

the price is pretty reasonable considering the work involved... above all else its baller points! AN fittings on the VC are sexy btw I kinda wanna do that

if you supply them ill weld them on for you no prob.

[OBEEWON]

Yeah, if I stay S13 bt Ill be doing this.

[Om1kron]

Originally Posted by Brian W.

i dont really see it as pricey. i put about 3 hours into them. Our hourly shop rate is $90.00 per hour so thats actually cheaper than a one off part. Its not for everyone, but it works very well for those willing to pay for one.

and you are correct in that S14 valve covers are harder to come by. Its something i did, then i had other people interested in one so why not offer it as a service?

Oh no I didn't mean the 200 for your labor, coming up with an s13, valve cover, than an s14 valve cover, then shipping, including any fittings I want to add to that.

Then if I want to get the cover coated or done up somewhere else I have to provide money for that and before you know it I could be 400+ into a valve cover.

Granted it's a worthwhile mod for cars that are actually used and what not for track duty...

I would eventually like to do this myself for shits and giggles... but I like expensive shits...

and giggles.

[Brian W.]

ha, yeah. if you get the valve covers for cheap and paint it yourself it wouldnt be that bad... but if youre buying stuff at top dollar than yeah this could get pricey.