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BOROSUN · 09-22-2018, 10:30 AM

amd needs to sell 7nm vega/navi @ $400

***S14DB*** · 09-24-2018, 08:11 PM

ronmcdon · 09-24-2018, 10:01 PM

The 2080ti scales surprisingly well in those tests. I'd really want to see how well it does in more games and 3440p.

BOROSUN · 09-25-2018, 07:48 PM

https://hothardware.com/news/amd-12n...med-for-launch

we'll see...

***Future240*** · 09-25-2018, 09:22 PM

If it is 15% more the let’s see...

I used the guru3d benchmarks from the 2080ti review. 15% would make the 680 around a fury card. Below the 1070 most of the time but sometimes equal or better.

Hard pass.

ronmcdon · 09-27-2018, 07:50 PM

That's even more depressing than the 2080. I hope amd will finally step up with Navi come 2019 or 2020, although I wonder if they as a company are even interested in competing with high end gpus.

BOROSUN · 09-29-2018, 01:07 AM

navi will be the last gcn.

fitbmx180 · 10-07-2018, 08:08 PM

what does a decent well built gaming computer cost?

ronmcdon · 10-07-2018, 11:42 PM

https://pcpartpicker.com/ would give you ideas of what builds people are doing and relative costs.

ronmcdon · 10-10-2018, 06:40 PM

Very embarrassing for Intel with the bogus 9900 vs 2700x comparo.

http://www.wiredfocus.com/intels-i9-...eading-period/

BOROSUN · 10-10-2018, 09:07 PM

BOROSUN · 10-12-2018, 08:19 AM

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/dr...-and-2019.html

Finally. 2019 should be another build year for me.

***Future240*** · 10-16-2018, 08:21 PM

It’s about time.

2019. Vega 3. Navi. Low ram. Agreed. Sounds like a build year.

***S14DB*** · 10-17-2018, 07:12 PM

AMD Lists New Radeon RX 580, But Now With Less Stream Processors?

ZenkiKid · 10-18-2018, 09:28 AM

SSD's are like dumb cheap right now.

Tempted to take my pc off the market and adding one to upgrade my hDD.

BOROSUN · 10-18-2018, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenkiKid

SSD's are like dumb cheap right now.

Tempted to take my pc off the market and adding one to upgrade my hDD.

do it. ssd is nightand day upgrade.

BOROSUN · 10-18-2018, 08:53 PM

i got to disagree on jim on the last comment.

amd has shifted priority aka navi to console. which can have more upside than battling head on against nvidia.

game devs can optimize amd hardware better. hopefully amd can get this right.

***Future240*** · 10-19-2018, 11:41 AM

So the 9 series just about buried the Ryzen series. Unless you need the 8 cores of the 2700x for non gaming. It makes no sense vs the 9600K.

ZenkiKid · 10-19-2018, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

do it. ssd is nightand day upgrade.

I have a samsung 500gb in my late 2011 macbook pro.

That plus 16gb of ram is keeping my ancient machine running as good as new.

BOROSUN · 10-19-2018, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Future240

So the 9 series just about buried the Ryzen series. Unless you need the 8 cores of the 2700x for non gaming. It makes no sense vs the 9600K.

that dont make sense. most games are gpu bound.

buried the ryzen? lol

ronmcdon · 10-20-2018, 05:47 PM

9900k doesn't make a lot of sense from a value perspective, especially its used mainly for gaming. No good reason to take that over even cheaper coffee lake chips I think. 2700x is solid value and I like what amd is doing here.

***Future240*** · 10-20-2018, 11:24 PM

^^^Agreed on the 9900k but I was talking about the 9600k

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_page...review,21.html

For example. The 9600k at 1080p (the resolution most people play at) it dominates the Ryzen series.

The 96000k is $270 right now. From a pure gaming stand point it makes more sense than the 2700 and 2700x.

ronmcdon · 10-22-2018, 09:49 AM

Oh i don't disagree which is why i said there's no good reason to take the 9900k over cheaper coffee lake chips. from all an all out gaming chip at 1080p and 1440p the 9600k is hard to beat at $280.

2700x is pretty unbeatable for the extra cores, and still solid gaming for similar price (not sure if it's still $320). To me it's a considerable improvement over the 1800x, especially value & gaming. Depending on one's preferences both chips hit a sweet spot.

BOROSUN · 10-22-2018, 06:38 PM

it has drop to 299 or even less. its $309 now on newegg.

and that's with a decent air cpu cooler.

***S14DB*** · 10-23-2018, 03:18 PM

Still can't beat the clock speeds on the Intel stuff for gaming. The only thing it's got going for it.

9900k is just for people that are BMF.

***Future240*** · 10-24-2018, 08:34 AM

IPC > Cores.

I was strongly considering going to a 2600x from my 4690K, but the 9600K makes way more sense now.

ronmcdon · 10-24-2018, 09:46 AM

I'd really be curious how users are cooling overclocked 9900k. Seems like there are a lot of other expenses to consider other than price of the chip alone.

https://wccftech.com/review/intel-co...e-review-2/10/

***S14DB*** · 10-24-2018, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

I'd really be curious how users are cooling overclocked 9900k. Seems like there are a lot of other expenses to consider other than price of the chip alone.

https://wccftech.com/review/intel-co...e-review-2/10/

When you have the money for a 9900k, you got the money for some good cooling. You don’t buy a 9900k if you are on a budget.

1on1 · 10-24-2018, 12:09 PM

^this.

In addition, if you were a gamer that had a history of being a competitive person, you want zero lag and the best "LAN" feeling when you play online. You can even stick with the 8700k and be fine but as a competitive gamer, you dont want that lag.

For me, my computer is way over due (im still on a x58 board; ASUS P6X58D Premium) and I upgraded from a 930 to a x5670 this year and upgraded from 6gb of memory to 16gb. My comp feels fine for multitasking and running heavy CPU applications but for gaming, my video card lacks (gtx960). I plan on picking up a gtx 1080 from a buddy and see how my PC runs but if it feels sluggish, I will definitely be upgrading.

Current games: CSGO, PUBG, BF5 (mainly for the story), and assetto corsa (interested in the VR play). BO4 seems fun but I have a feeling the hype will die out quickly.

ronmcdon · 10-24-2018, 12:30 PM

I'm curious about how people plan to cool oc 9900k's. the aio used on that test was a pretty decent $140 corsair aio and still it ran 90f.

To spend $200 give or take on a quality aio is one thing. To have to go open loop because aio's don't cut it is quite another category of expense and maintenance.

09-24-2018, 08:11 PM	#1022
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10-17-2018, 07:12 PM	#1034
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10-18-2018, 09:28 AM	#1035
ZenkiKid Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 34 Posts: 3,284 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	SSD's are like dumb cheap right now. Tempted to take my pc off the market and adding one to upgrade my hDD. __________________ http://www.nissanroadracing.com/

10-23-2018, 03:18 PM	#1045
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Still can't beat the clock speeds on the Intel stuff for gaming. The only thing it's got going for it. 9900k is just for people that are BMF. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

10-24-2018, 12:09 PM	#1049
1on1 Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Age: 38 Posts: 3,321 Trader Rating: (15) Rides Gallery: 1on1 Feedback Score: 15 reviews	^this. In addition, if you were a gamer that had a history of being a competitive person, you want zero lag and the best "LAN" feeling when you play online. You can even stick with the 8700k and be fine but as a competitive gamer, you dont want that lag. For me, my computer is way over due (im still on a x58 board; ASUS P6X58D Premium) and I upgraded from a 930 to a x5670 this year and upgraded from 6gb of memory to 16gb. My comp feels fine for multitasking and running heavy CPU applications but for gaming, my video card lacks (gtx960). I plan on picking up a gtx 1080 from a buddy and see how my PC runs but if it feels sluggish, I will definitely be upgrading. Current games: CSGO, PUBG, BF5 (mainly for the story), and assetto corsa (interested in the VR play). BO4 seems fun but I have a feeling the hype will die out quickly. __________________ instagram

09-22-2018, 10:30 AM	#1021
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 43 Posts: 5,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	amd needs to sell 7nm vega/navi @ $400

09-24-2018, 10:01 PM	#1023
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	The 2080ti scales surprisingly well in those tests. I'd really want to see how well it does in more games and 3440p.

09-25-2018, 07:48 PM	#1024
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 43 Posts: 5,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	https://hothardware.com/news/amd-12n...med-for-launch we'll see...

09-27-2018, 07:50 PM	#1026
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	That's even more depressing than the 2080. I hope amd will finally step up with Navi come 2019 or 2020, although I wonder if they as a company are even interested in competing with high end gpus.

09-29-2018, 01:07 AM	#1027
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 43 Posts: 5,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	navi will be the last gcn.

10-07-2018, 08:08 PM	#1028
fitbmx180 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Ontario Age: 31 Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what does a decent well built gaming computer cost?

10-07-2018, 11:42 PM	#1029
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	https://pcpartpicker.com/ would give you ideas of what builds people are doing and relative costs.

10-10-2018, 06:40 PM	#1030
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Very embarrassing for Intel with the bogus 9900 vs 2700x comparo. http://www.wiredfocus.com/intels-i9-...eading-period/

10-10-2018, 09:07 PM	#1031
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 43 Posts: 5,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews

10-12-2018, 08:19 AM	#1032
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 43 Posts: 5,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/dr...-and-2019.html Finally. 2019 should be another build year for me.

10-18-2018, 08:53 PM	#1037
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 43 Posts: 5,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i got to disagree on jim on the last comment. amd has shifted priority aka navi to console. which can have more upside than battling head on against nvidia. game devs can optimize amd hardware better. hopefully amd can get this right.

10-20-2018, 05:47 PM	#1041
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	9900k doesn't make a lot of sense from a value perspective, especially its used mainly for gaming. No good reason to take that over even cheaper coffee lake chips I think. 2700x is solid value and I like what amd is doing here.

10-22-2018, 09:49 AM	#1043
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Oh i don't disagree which is why i said there's no good reason to take the 9900k over cheaper coffee lake chips. from all an all out gaming chip at 1080p and 1440p the 9600k is hard to beat at $280. 2700x is pretty unbeatable for the extra cores, and still solid gaming for similar price (not sure if it's still $320). To me it's a considerable improvement over the 1800x, especially value & gaming. Depending on one's preferences both chips hit a sweet spot.

10-22-2018, 06:38 PM	#1044
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 43 Posts: 5,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it has drop to 299 or even less. its $309 now on newegg. and that's with a decent air cpu cooler.

10-24-2018, 09:46 AM	#1047
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I'd really be curious how users are cooling overclocked 9900k. Seems like there are a lot of other expenses to consider other than price of the chip alone. https://wccftech.com/review/intel-co...e-review-2/10/

10-24-2018, 12:30 PM	#1050
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I'm curious about how people plan to cool oc 9900k's. the aio used on that test was a pretty decent $140 corsair aio and still it ran 90f. To spend $200 give or take on a quality aio is one thing. To have to go open loop because aio's don't cut it is quite another category of expense and maintenance.