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FIlthy 24O · 10-14-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FIlthy 24O

ok so im ok with more power if i can ahhahaah what could i play it safe at for dd and how i want torque and all that....i would just wanna keep my turbo, and build around it. thanks for the input also i should have a really good tuner

.86???? so im confused s15 turbo i know i can search what are the specs though???? the only thing im pretty much sure on is the tune will be great

WILDACEX187 · 10-14-2008, 01:32 AM

s15 i think is a gt28r. search for that i guess

eek · 10-14-2008, 02:44 AM

Off phase 2 motortrend

S15 turbo:
GT Dual Ball Bearing Cartidge
Turbine: T25
0.64 A/R Turbine Housing / 62 Trim
Compressor: T3
.60 A/R Compressor Housing / 60 Trim Wheel
Compressor Flow: 31 LB/MIN

codyace · 10-14-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by steve shadows

Not on a real dyno Cody

More like 460 whp with a gt3076R

and possibly 350 whp with any 2871R varient

I sometimes wish the US was like Australia where Dyno Dynamics was the only dyno used...haha.

I have given up on trying to explain this to customers, they feel better going down the street and seeing 400whp even if in reality they are only making 330 real road HP with the proper mechanical drag accounted for with an EM-Brake.

I have up as well, that's why I just use numbersjet numbers to explain things...it helps even the forum playing field in terms of explanations. Plus it's hard to explain that D/D is a better number, when most traditional drag calculators follow DJ numbers so closely :/

I'll get my car on a DD dyno yet. I'm changing some stuff, so I'd like to see what my car makes again on the dyno I always use, and then head to a DD to see how she works out.

I like ApexI and Cosworth headgaskets.

For those wanting my manifold:

Extrude Hone - Deburring and Surface Finishing (for the polishing)
Racing Service Enthalpy (for the external gate)
Swain Tech Coatings for engine piston coatings, race engine coatings, ceramic header coating, carbide metal coatings, thermal spray plasma coating, metalizing closures, spray welding (for the coating).

You should do them in that order as well. If you don't want one of the steps, just omit it from the list without changing anythign else.

OBEEWON · 10-14-2008, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by codyace

I disagree. If you want to win through superior firepower, going t3 based 30r (any varient) is the way to go. If you want to win through better exit speeds and better off throttle power, the .64 2871r is the way to go. I've done PLENTY of track days, and absolutly love the powerband of my car...

Have you driven a .86? The road courses I've driven keep you in the sweet spot of this turbo which pulls stupid hard.

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Originally Posted by codyace

Check the evolutionm.com forums for a great guide in setting the B Spec II. Then again, you have an internal gate, so headache has got to be assumed

Ahh, dont assume. My solenoid is going bad. There is nothing wrong with internal gate on these turbo's. I've used that write up to set up my controller and a few friends as well.

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Originally Posted by codyace

Send that fugger to the MR headquarters for minting and trophy use! That's unheard of!

The problem is that the average person does not have thier exhaust system hung correctly. Most people dont use the braces MR includes with the manifold either. Brace it properly and support your exhaust and it will last. I was waiting for it to crack so I could go back to stock but it doesnt look like its going to happen.

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Originally Posted by codyace

How can the east coast's best tuner's chip need an SAFC for better drivability. Oxymoron at best.

I have yet to finish tuning, due to many issues and time. When we do a full session I wont need the SAFC. He has only tuned high throttle. Busy guy, he does Mitsu, Honda, but Nissan is his specialty. Ill be sure to post up my dyno when we finish.

FIlthy 24O · 10-14-2008, 02:48 PM

well yeah the turbo sounds solid......stock manifolds 550 or maybe s15 injectors mild cams and a maf...what could i be pushing also what should i get to tune with...dont know to much about everything thats out there im looking for something cheap but im still willing to drop 1000 on a computer or stand alone i just need to figure out what would be the best for me

slider2828 · 10-14-2008, 02:58 PM

Codyace:

What was the cost to do just the Extrude Honing / Deburring on the manifold? Thanks

rotation3x · 10-14-2008, 04:28 PM

^im selling my power fc for $700.00 with commander plus shipping.

Should I use copper spray on a apexi HG

slider2828 · 10-14-2008, 05:17 PM

F... that copper spray.... make sure you deck the head though... or at least really clean it up... But copper spray is useless on metal HG, use it for your paper stuff like exhaust or whatever...

codyace · 10-14-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Have you driven a .86? The road courses I've driven keep you in the sweet spot of this turbo which pulls stupid hard.

Yes, but only at one track. Was the top end there? Yep. Did it make more power than mine overall? Nope. Did it even make more power than my car peak? Nope.

A proper .64 setup > an .86 setup. Again, if you need more than 400 whp, go 30r, and benefit from a proper top mount manifold.

In order to be fast you need to get the most power down the fastest. Top end only proves to have an advantage on big HP tracks, and even then, if you can run out of a corner even just 5 mph faster, it takes a tremendous amount of power for a similar car to overcome. At a smaller course, an .86 would leave you dead on the water.

I'll take instant spool and grip to propel me out of corners, rather than hoping to rely on bigger power. To date, I still don't see any .86 cars with more average hp and trq than mine. Seat of pants means nothing on the big end. My car even at 12psi on street tires is just as fast as a new z06 on street tires in terms of course speed.

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Ahh, dont assume. My solenoid is going bad. There is nothing wrong with internal gate on these turbo's. I've used that write up to set up my controller and a few friends as well.

That internal gate sucks. Once you change, you'll see why. Greddy also 'used' to offer rebuild services (back in Profec Spec I days...) I don't even know where to look to see if they still do.

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

The problem is that the average person does not have thier exhaust system hung correctly. Most people dont use the braces MR includes with the manifold either. Brace it properly and support your exhaust and it will last. I was waiting for it to crack so I could go back to stock but it doesnt look like its going to happen.

I've seen cars with flex pipes, every factory mount upgraded to nismo, and every hanger on the car, still bust their manifolds. Some are good, some are bad...that's the name of the game in cheap part land.

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

I have yet to finish tuning, due to many issues and time. When we do a full session I wont need the SAFC. He has only tuned high throttle. Busy guy, he does Mitsu, Honda, but Nissan is his specialty. Ill be sure to post up my dyno when we finish.

I can't wait

T2 power!

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Originally Posted by slider2828

Codyace:

What was the cost to do just the Extrude Honing / Deburring on the manifold? Thanks

Unsure what they are now. I got most of my stuff done through group buys 3 years ago.

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Originally Posted by rotation3x

Should I use copper spray on a apexi HG

NEVER! MLS gaskets require nothing but a clean decked head and block.

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Originally Posted by FIlthy 24O

well yeah the turbo sounds solid......stock manifolds 550 or maybe s15 injectors mild cams and a maf...what could i be pushing also what should i get to tune with...dont know to much about everything thats out there im looking for something cheap but im still willing to drop 1000 on a computer or stand alone i just need to figure out what would be the best for me

JIM WOLF TECHNOLOGY, INC. / NISSAN PERFORMANCE / NISSAN RACING /INFINITI PERFORMANCE
Racing Service Enthalpy

Get a ROM tune, you'll love it. It'll be perfect for your car. Plug it in, burnouts down the street.

codyace · 10-14-2008, 06:08 PM

PS: Anyone looking for a decent deal on a set of 4.63 gears, check out this link on the Mazworx site:

Used R200 Ring and Pinion, 4.636

FIlthy 24O · 10-14-2008, 06:10 PM

so fuck after market or what ever just go with a rom tun and i should be perfect also anyone have a stock sr exhaust manifold i gotta get one quik

codyace · 10-14-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FIlthy 24O

so fuck after market or what ever just go with a rom tun and i should be perfect also anyone have a stock sr exhaust manifold i gotta get one quik

An aftermarket standalone, tuned will be the ultimate ECU solution...however for such a street derived setup such as yours, a rom tune is the perfect way to go. It'll act as stock as it comes, and be dead reliable.

Check the for sale areas for ecu's for sale...you may even be able to find one for your setup

FIlthy 24O · 10-14-2008, 06:39 PM

cool sounds good thanks for the input u have any idea what numbers i can pray for

codyace · 10-14-2008, 08:30 PM

s15 turbo?

somewhere right around 300 hp. If you can completly gut your car, it would be one fun little rocket.

FIlthy 24O · 10-14-2008, 08:43 PM

yeah i want a lot of power from stop til red line just something fun to drift

SoguRacing · 10-14-2008, 10:42 PM

this thread is getting filled with garbage.

efrain240sx · 10-15-2008, 02:23 AM

CODYACE: hey cody what size nozzle do you have for your water injection?

codyace · 10-15-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SoguRacing

this thread is getting filled with garbage.

Agreed. To much personal Q+A...

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Originally Posted by efrain240sx

CODYACE: hey cody what size nozzle do you have for your water injection?

I have the .07 nozzel in mine.

OBEEWON · 10-15-2008, 04:11 PM

OK so who has the biggest power on a .86. I met a guy claiming 456 at 21psi. Bring em out bring em out.

Lol Ace I dont understand how you have so much hatred for the .86 when it spools like a few RPMs slower than the .64. I wish I had the money and time to get my setup built properly to do a direct comparison.

Oh Im also interested to see the difference in the cold side housings.

s15specR · 10-15-2008, 06:33 PM

what are you guys with aftermarket HG's toqueing your head to ?

OBEEWON · 10-15-2008, 06:54 PM

Factory specs, maybe a smidge more. I also use factory head bolts.

s15specR · 10-15-2008, 07:45 PM

I used ARP with their supplied lube...I've seen 75, 80 and 85 just wondering whats been done by others

codyace · 10-15-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

OK so who has the biggest power on a .86. I met a guy claiming 456 at 21psi. Bring em out bring em out.

Gotta think if you go with STD correction, my car makes 420 whp...I really am anxious o see what it makes with water injection, and the C1's....

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Lol Ace I dont understand how you have so much hatred for the .86 when it spools like a few RPMs slower than the .64. I wish I had the money and time to get my setup built properly to do a direct comparison.

I'll do this in list form, it's easier

Reasons why I think the .86 isn't a good option

-A t3/t4 has equal spool time, and supports the same power...at a third of the cost.

-Those 'few' rpms make a huge difference in response...there is a huge difference in dyno RPM and then power over time. A .64 car comes onto power instantly...where that .86 has the response of a bigger turbo

-a smaller 30r makes the same power at the same psi, if not more power...and has the same response threshold

There are more reasons, but I can't think of them right now (tired, and have a few Troeginators in me). I guess in the grand scheme, I just believe that a 3071 or 3076 is the better 450 whp to use, as it can support SO much more power, without having to be spun to the moon.

The .86 just drives so clunky...almost unblanced. This is not to say it's a bad turbo...as they are fun...it's just that a .64 housing is more fun.

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Oh Im also interested to see the difference in the cold side housings.

Cold side housings are the same for both turbochargers. It's just the turbine side that is different.

OBEEWON · 10-16-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by codyace

Gotta think if you go with STD correction, my car makes 420 whp...I really am anxious o see what it makes with water injection, and the C1's....

Yes, I was asking specifically for the .86.

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Originally Posted by codyace

I'll do this in list form, it's easier

Reasons why I think the .86 isn't a good option

-A t3/t4 has equal spool time, and supports the same power...at a third of the cost.

-Those 'few' rpms make a huge difference in response...there is a huge difference in dyno RPM and then power over time. A .64 car comes onto power instantly...where that .86 has the response of a bigger turbo

-a smaller 30r makes the same power at the same psi, if not more power...and has the same response threshold

There are more reasons, but I can't think of them right now (tired, and have a few Troeginators in me). I guess in the grand scheme, I just believe that a 3071 or 3076 is the better 450 whp to use, as it can support SO much more power, without having to be spun to the moon.

I agree they are close but I know alot of 30r guys trying to come back to a .86 for spool time. Plus when deciding on my setup I factored in manifold and turbo extension etc for price and the .86 came out better value (given I can make the power Im shooting for, sheesh its been a long time!!!)

But I think its unfair to say unless you have driven a .86 that has been tuned to its full capability, especially in the fun department which is relative.

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Originally Posted by codyace

Cold side housings are the same for both turbochargers. It's just the turbine side that is different.

I was asking about the optional housings for the cold side. Not in comparison between .64 and .86. How much difference is there between the two options.

For example I see now that they offer ported compressor housings like the GTX antisurge junk. How much difference does this make and who went with what housing?

slider2828 · 10-16-2008, 09:41 AM

really? the gt2871r has a ported compressor housing? WOW! That is definitely something I would want. But I don't think it makes a difference on the spool time, as much as it helps extended the life of the turbo on normal setups. But it would make a difference in the ported antisurge is if you run it without a blov. At least on the GT30's with the antisurge that is why drifters run it without a blov. I think Kazama's old car ran antisurge without a blov because of response and response was one of the reasons.

OBEEWON · 10-16-2008, 10:38 AM

It doesn't seem to make a difference in max power. But theres got to be a reason for the different compressor housing offered. Also where can you buy just the housing? I didnt see it on Garretts site.

I want the antisurge since Ive been wanting to get rid of my BOV for a while. I wonder how much boost you can run without poping offf pipes?

codyace · 10-16-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Yes, I was asking specifically for the .86

I think one of the most prominent members with the .86 turbo was member Gatecrasher...but he also sprayed Nitrous ontop of it....

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

I agree they are close but I know alot of 30r guys trying to come back to a .86 for spool time. Plus when deciding on my setup I factored in manifold and turbo extension etc for price and the .86 came out better value (given I can make the power Im shooting for, sheesh its been a long time!!!)

It's hard to say cost wise what would end up being cheaper. If going with a generic t3/t4 setup, it will probably end up going for less, if you're buying the same parts (both using 3" downpipes, both using tubular manifolds, both using lines etc etc) Now if you you just wanna run the turbo, on a stocker, with the lines...to easy, the gt28xx's are cheaper.

The biggest issue with 'most' 30r varient turbos, is that they are hodge podges of mixed parts. In order to really take advantage, you need the RPM's.

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

But I think its unfair to say unless you have driven a .86 that has been tuned to its full capability, especially in the fun department which is relative.

I have, and I prefer my .64 car over it. Maybe I was spoiled my the 28RS in my Sentra/Altima turbo beginnings?

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

I was asking about the optional housings for the cold side. Not in comparison between .64 and .86. How much difference is there between the two options.

There really isn't much, aside from the optional 'stock' housing (3 bolt output, 2 bolt input). I know I know, they have different trims etc etc, but all support (essentially) the same power.

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

It doesn't seem to make a difference in max power. But theres got to be a reason for the different compressor housing offered. Also where can you buy just the housing? I didnt see it on Garretts site.

You can't just swap compressor housings. They all have different wheel sizes/inducer bores.

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Originally Posted by OBEEWON

I want the antisurge since Ive been wanting to get rid of my BOV for a while. I wonder how much boost you can run without poping offf pipes?

Why would you not want to run a BOV? I really dislike the way cars drive without them...to finnicky and clunky for a street car. A proper BOV works wonders as well.

Speaking of which, I may be retiring my old Greddy Type S(hit) soon. It's been on all of my turbo cars, but I think I'll end up going to a Turbonetics Raptor...plus it'll rid of the ricey 'achoooo' sound.

OBEEWON · 10-16-2008, 02:55 PM

Do you like anything besides what you have? lol. You remind me of one of my very good friends. If it isnt on his car it isnt worth a bull nickle

Been searching around today. This is GSRacer on FreshAlloy I guess before he went to his V8.

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yeah, but in what gear?
4th gear. this is my car .86 and friends car .64. Both are stock manifolds , cams, on enthalpy 550cc tunes with the only differences being .64 with a greddy divide outlet and .86 ebay outlet.

On the graph youll see the .86 hits around 4800 but it actually had an exhaust leak in between the turbo and manifold which was hurting my spool normally on the dyno i see full boost by 4600 rpm. Now on the street it is more like 4400-4500 and the .64 3700-3800 because of the increase in load on the car

The lag is virtually no existent on the .64 and noticable on the .86 , but if your a good driver youll learn to drive around it . After driving both cars i still like my .86 the pull at the top al though not very noticable on the graph is incredible compared to the .64.

enjoy

slider2828 · 10-16-2008, 05:07 PM

Well you can for sure get optional housings from ATPTUrbo.com just give them a call, they are down the street from my house. Also its true, without bov, its harder to modulate throttle, so it really becomes almost like an misfiring or antilag system. On power or off power, not much in between but response is sick...

10-14-2008, 01:32 AM	#602
WILDACEX187 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QUEENZ, NYC Age: 41 Posts: 3,103 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	s15 i think is a gt28r. search for that i guess __________________ SR POWA COUPE LUVVV!!!

10-14-2008, 02:48 PM	#606
FIlthy 24O Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2007 Location: hawaii nei-Gardena Age: 35 Posts: 511 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	well yeah the turbo sounds solid......stock manifolds 550 or maybe s15 injectors mild cams and a maf...what could i be pushing also what should i get to tune with...dont know to much about everything thats out there im looking for something cheap but im still willing to drop 1000 on a computer or stand alone i just need to figure out what would be the best for me __________________ GARAGE BOSO...........ROOTS AND CULTURE

10-14-2008, 02:58 PM	#607
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Codyace: What was the cost to do just the Extrude Honing / Deburring on the manifold? Thanks __________________ Turn and Burn!

10-14-2008, 05:17 PM	#609
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	F... that copper spray.... make sure you deck the head though... or at least really clean it up... But copper spray is useless on metal HG, use it for your paper stuff like exhaust or whatever... __________________ Turn and Burn!

10-14-2008, 06:08 PM	#611
codyace Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poconos, PA Age: 39 Posts: 8,030 Trader Rating: (58) Feedback Score: 58 reviews	PS: Anyone looking for a decent deal on a set of 4.63 gears, check out this link on the Mazworx site: Used R200 Ring and Pinion, 4.636 __________________ *Want Air Conditioning in your SR20 Swapped car? Check out www.sr20acbrackets.com for more information! Quest Alternator Conversions for SR20!* Check my Group Buy! Tired of lousy internal gates? Go external wastegate with one of my manifolds, Check out my group buy

10-14-2008, 02:44 AM	#603
eek Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: California Age: 43 Posts: 1,025 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	Off phase 2 motortrend S15 turbo: GT Dual Ball Bearing Cartidge Turbine: T25 0.64 A/R Turbine Housing / 62 Trim Compressor: T3 .60 A/R Compressor Housing / 60 Trim Wheel Compressor Flow: 31 LB/MIN

10-14-2008, 04:28 PM	#608
rotation3x Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: virginia Age: 38 Posts: 272 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	^im selling my power fc for $700.00 with commander plus shipping. Should I use copper spray on a apexi HG

10-14-2008, 06:10 PM	#612
FIlthy 24O Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2007 Location: hawaii nei-Gardena Age: 35 Posts: 511 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	so fuck after market or what ever just go with a rom tun and i should be perfect also anyone have a stock sr exhaust manifold i gotta get one quik __________________ GARAGE BOSO...........ROOTS AND CULTURE

10-14-2008, 06:39 PM	#614
FIlthy 24O Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2007 Location: hawaii nei-Gardena Age: 35 Posts: 511 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	cool sounds good thanks for the input u have any idea what numbers i can pray for __________________ GARAGE BOSO...........ROOTS AND CULTURE

10-14-2008, 08:30 PM	#615
codyace Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poconos, PA Age: 39 Posts: 8,030 Trader Rating: (58) Feedback Score: 58 reviews	s15 turbo? somewhere right around 300 hp. If you can completly gut your car, it would be one fun little rocket. __________________ *Want Air Conditioning in your SR20 Swapped car? Check out www.sr20acbrackets.com for more information! Quest Alternator Conversions for SR20!* Check my Group Buy! Tired of lousy internal gates? Go external wastegate with one of my manifolds, Check out my group buy

10-14-2008, 08:43 PM	#616
FIlthy 24O Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2007 Location: hawaii nei-Gardena Age: 35 Posts: 511 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	yeah i want a lot of power from stop til red line just something fun to drift __________________ GARAGE BOSO...........ROOTS AND CULTURE

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SoguRacing Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: (714) Age: 38 Posts: 2,967 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: SoguRacing Feedback Score: 23 reviews	this thread is getting filled with garbage. __________________ Pre Tune Checkup! Compression,LeakDown,Vacuum Test $80. Cams Install: $180

10-15-2008, 02:23 AM	#618
efrain240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: azusa ca Posts: 127 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	CODYACE: hey cody what size nozzle do you have for your water injection?

10-15-2008, 04:11 PM	#620
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,053 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	OK so who has the biggest power on a .86. I met a guy claiming 456 at 21psi. Bring em out bring em out. Lol Ace I dont understand how you have so much hatred for the .86 when it spools like a few RPMs slower than the .64. I wish I had the money and time to get my setup built properly to do a direct comparison. Oh Im also interested to see the difference in the cold side housings. __________________

10-15-2008, 06:33 PM	#621
s15specR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	what are you guys with aftermarket HG's toqueing your head to ? __________________

10-15-2008, 06:54 PM	#622
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,053 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Factory specs, maybe a smidge more. I also use factory head bolts. __________________

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s15specR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I used ARP with their supplied lube...I've seen 75, 80 and 85 just wondering whats been done by others __________________

10-16-2008, 09:41 AM	#626
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	really? the gt2871r has a ported compressor housing? WOW! That is definitely something I would want. But I don't think it makes a difference on the spool time, as much as it helps extended the life of the turbo on normal setups. But it would make a difference in the ported antisurge is if you run it without a blov. At least on the GT30's with the antisurge that is why drifters run it without a blov. I think Kazama's old car ran antisurge without a blov because of response and response was one of the reasons. __________________ Turn and Burn!

10-16-2008, 10:38 AM	#627
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,053 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	It doesn't seem to make a difference in max power. But theres got to be a reason for the different compressor housing offered. Also where can you buy just the housing? I didnt see it on Garretts site. I want the antisurge since Ive been wanting to get rid of my BOV for a while. I wonder how much boost you can run without poping offf pipes? __________________

10-16-2008, 05:07 PM	#630
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Well you can for sure get optional housings from ATPTUrbo.com just give them a call, they are down the street from my house. Also its true, without bov, its harder to modulate throttle, so it really becomes almost like an misfiring or antilag system. On power or off power, not much in between but response is sick... __________________ Turn and Burn!