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xoxide · 06-07-2012, 12:19 PM

^Thats how I plan to design mine. I think alot of the Formula D cars are build like that also.

thefro526 · 06-07-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxide

^Thats how I plan to design mine. I think alot of the Formula D cars are build like that also.

True that. I was looking at some of the ASD cars, specifically JTP's and while back and realized that there's nothing solid in the rear corners of the car which is really neat. If you ever watch him wall ride, you'll see that his rear corner moves in a good few inches like it's nothing.

I'd image that you want something similar on the front corners of the car, if it's a drift car. Would let you make contact with the lead car without transferring much, if any, energy. (Body panels would just move out of the way)

240Shwag · 06-07-2012, 01:31 PM

Here's mine so far. Thinking of adding in a tube that mimicks that factory tubs.

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Originally Posted by xoxide

Thanks so much! As for how much material, im just trying to get a rough guestimate, Do I go with 10 feet, 20 feet, less?

I used about 18' of material on mine, no wasted pieces.

GabeS14 · 06-26-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmags91

OP your s14 doesnt happen to be at intense right now does it?
rules:

Yes thats my car the White Blister kit S14

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Originally Posted by rbs14kouki

here you go Gabe i saw you took my crash bar as an exemple .

i will show you how we did my car !!!

my front crash bar is removable , the tub front end on the other side was welded to the chassi . my intercoller became the head light bracket and the rad bracket

Thabks a lot!.
I have been away from zilvia for a while, so its cool to see the thread actually growing!

Silv14 · 06-26-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GabeS14

Thabks a lot!.
I have been away from zilvia for a while, so its cool to see the thread actually growing!

Same here, I'm pumped that this has some more posts!! There isn't much documentation on this across the intarwebz.

Idk if anyone else thats had this done noticed a pretty drastic improvement in steering, but I feel like it tightened the front up tremendously.

crunkride · 06-27-2012, 08:49 PM

What is the rad in the second picture, please?

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Originally Posted by rbs14kouki

this is the best way to go if you have a v8 or v10 ... with a rad support bar !!!

i was fucked when i changed my rb to ls1 (nothing to old my rad and head light

rbs14kouki · 06-28-2012, 07:43 AM

BECool rad !!! size? i dont remember by eart ... got it from summitracing

fit in between the stock rails without bieng to tight (give you room for rail deflection in casse of a crash and you wont crush your rad !!!

i only had to trim the webing on the inside of my hood (for reference : if the stock rad support is there , it goes pass it about 2 or 3 inch)

collegekid · 07-01-2012, 11:16 PM

Where are you guys getting your tube fronts done? I'm a noob with no equipment or experience for that and someone suggested that a tube front would be the best option after my crash that resulted in a bent frame on my passenger side.

A mechanic told me any body shop could do it? who did your tube front?

GripTerror · 07-01-2012, 11:30 PM

Someone who is welding certified? Someone who specializes in race cars or heavily modified cars? That's what id suggest.

Keep em coming, im getting mine front and rear tubed and tied into cage... will take a long time though but wait will be worth it...

Highway Riding · 08-17-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by collegekid

Where are you guys getting your tube fronts done? I'm a noob with no equipment or experience for that and someone suggested that a tube front would be the best option after my crash that resulted in a bent frame on my passenger side.

A mechanic told me any body shop could do it? who did your tube front?

Import Intelligence is in PA ... Check those guys out. They did my swap and i plan on going back to them or RT tuning..

Legoctf · 08-20-2012, 07:10 AM

Need more set ups in this thread!

Ill post mine soon as it gets done

DownSouthSlider · 08-22-2012, 07:42 PM

Here is mine. They both in bolt and the fenders and bumpers are held on by dzus fasteners.
I forget the size we used. Sorry!

PoorMans180SX · 08-22-2012, 07:48 PM

Looks good, the only problem I see with it is that it seems like it will bend the chassis before it bends those bars in an impact, at least with those bolt in locations. You might want to consider running down bars from the strut towers to the front rails and plating both of them to prevent them from being damaged in an accident. This will force the bars to bend before the actual chassis parts.

VYKTR · 10-03-2012, 01:05 AM

So whats the basic size you guys are using for the tubed fronts? Is 1" 3/4" DOM tubing a good size? I'm not sure as to what FD rulebooks specify for modification to front end structures but I'm sure there is some guidelines. I wont be runing FD but perhaps my local Pro-AM division later down the line. However, I would like to prep my car to some sanctioned event standard. I would really appreciate if anyone with experience with front ends could chime in and help discuss material selection.

OgSilviaSkywalker · 10-03-2012, 01:21 AM

op's build sounds ridiculous. nice job starting this thread. should definitely come in handy for a lot of us.

stylepointzz · 10-04-2012, 11:13 PM

This thread fucking rules

xoxide · 10-05-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by VYKTR

So whats the basic size you guys are using for the tubed fronts? Is 1' 3/4" DOM tubing a good size? I'm not sure as to what FD rulebooks specify for modification to front end structures but I'm sure there is some guidelines. I wont be runing FD but perhaps my local Pro-AM division later down the line. However, I would like to prep my car to some sanctioned event standard. I would really appreciate if anyone with experience with front ends could chime in and help discuss material selection.

I emailed them for a rule book, and have the Pro book as well as the Pro-am supplement. If you PM me your email I can forward it to you. There are no specifications for tube front end other than from the strut towers back it must remain oem.

slidewayz240 · 10-05-2012, 09:03 AM

My tubular front.

scottie · 10-05-2012, 09:14 AM

Here is mine. I copied Dai's S13 in that the interior cage "bolts" through the firewall, passes through the strut tower for extra reinforcement and ties at the front of the frame rails. A new boxed frame support goes across the bottom and ties into the nismo power brace as the factory piece does, just 10x stronger. In addition two support bars were added in the front for my Accusump canister.

Anyways here is the result so far....

Hanzi · 10-06-2012, 02:07 AM

how do you mount the headlights? To the kit or you make custom brakcets? Just curious.

*Jonnie Fraz* · 10-06-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hanzi

how do you mount the headlights? To the kit or you make custom brakcets? Just curious.

Looks close Scottie's headlight mounts are right there on the front cross bar.

Hanzi · 10-06-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonnie Fraz

Looks close Scottie's headlight mounts are right there on the front cross bar.

oh I see what youre talking about. Not all tubed fronts have brackets like that? Or is it just me? lol

One_love_silvia · 10-08-2012, 11:43 AM

how much is all this costing you guys on average?

VYKTR · 10-08-2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxide

I emailed them for a rule book, and have the Pro book as well as the Pro-am supplement. If you PM me your email I can forward it to you. There are no specifications for tube front end other than from the strut towers back it must remain oem.

PM sent. Thanks for the hook up.

towlie · 10-08-2012, 09:15 PM

IMO that's a bad spot for the accusump. Rumble strip or off track skirmish could damage that

One_love_silvia · 10-15-2012, 01:45 AM

Would this pass a dmv inspection in california?

smellslikecurry · 10-15-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by slidewayz240

My tubular front.

Woa thats an awesome setup! What did you guys use to bend the piping off the strut towers? Looks crush bent!

GabeS14 · 10-15-2012, 07:56 PM

Glad too see this thread is making.more and more progress!

GabeS14 · 10-23-2012, 11:54 PM

Almost done,
made it removable like someone posted earlier.

scottie · 10-24-2012, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by towlie

IMO that's a bad spot for the accusump. Rumble strip or off track skirmish could damage that

I guess we differ on location ideas. As I see it the cnc canister is stronger than a radiator so I'm not worried about rock chips/debris. Hell a FMIC is far easier to damage sitting behind the bumper. It sits behind a 120 DOM 1 3-4" bash bar. Granted if I go through it I will most likely damage it along with the radiator, oil cooler & oil filter. I chose location because the most important function for the Accusump is to provide oil as soon as a pressure drop occurs. It says in the IOM it is beneficial to install the sump as close to the motor as feasible. The headers prevent it from the side. I didn't want a hot oil container sitting next to me in the cab. The only other spot leaves the trunk. The inside of the firewall is okay but to me it's not worth a possible leak or malfunction inside the cab.

06-28-2012, 07:43 AM	#37
rbs14kouki Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Montreal , Canada Age: 37 Posts: 817 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	BECool rad !!! size? i dont remember by eart ... got it from summitracing fit in between the stock rails without bieng to tight (give you room for rail deflection in casse of a crash and you wont crush your rad !!! i only had to trim the webing on the inside of my hood (for reference : if the stock rad support is there , it goes pass it about 2 or 3 inch) __________________ AV FABRICATION Built thread sr20vet s14 http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=535574

08-20-2012, 07:10 AM	#41
Legoctf Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Need more set ups in this thread! Ill post mine soon as it gets done __________________ Hakuna Matata & Fear No Corner

08-22-2012, 07:48 PM	#43
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,573 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Looks good, the only problem I see with it is that it seems like it will bend the chassis before it bends those bars in an impact, at least with those bolt in locations. You might want to consider running down bars from the strut towers to the front rails and plating both of them to prevent them from being damaged in an accident. This will force the bars to bend before the actual chassis parts. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

10-03-2012, 01:05 AM	#44
VYKTR Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Age: 33 Posts: 423 Trader Rating: (36) Feedback Score: 36 reviews	So whats the basic size you guys are using for the tubed fronts? Is 1" 3/4" DOM tubing a good size? I'm not sure as to what FD rulebooks specify for modification to front end structures but I'm sure there is some guidelines. I wont be runing FD but perhaps my local Pro-AM division later down the line. However, I would like to prep my car to some sanctioned event standard. I would really appreciate if anyone with experience with front ends could chime in and help discuss material selection. __________________ BLOG / TUMBLR Last edited by VYKTR; 10-08-2012 at 08:03 PM..

10-08-2012, 11:43 AM	#53
One_love_silvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Diego, CA So Cal Posts: 1,898 Trader Rating: (38) Feedback Score: 38 reviews	how much is all this costing you guys on average? __________________ 2016 Nissan 370z

06-07-2012, 12:19 PM	#31
xoxide Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,807 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	^Thats how I plan to design mine. I think alot of the Formula D cars are build like that also.

07-01-2012, 11:16 PM	#38
collegekid Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In my house Posts: 853 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Where are you guys getting your tube fronts done? I'm a noob with no equipment or experience for that and someone suggested that a tube front would be the best option after my crash that resulted in a bent frame on my passenger side. A mechanic told me any body shop could do it? who did your tube front?

07-01-2012, 11:30 PM	#39
GripTerror Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Canada Age: 39 Posts: 685 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Someone who is welding certified? Someone who specializes in race cars or heavily modified cars? That's what id suggest. Keep em coming, im getting mine front and rear tubed and tied into cage... will take a long time though but wait will be worth it...

08-22-2012, 07:42 PM	#42
DownSouthSlider Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: broward county florida Age: 43 Posts: 214 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here is mine. They both in bolt and the fenders and bumpers are held on by dzus fasteners. I forget the size we used. Sorry!

10-03-2012, 01:21 AM	#45
OgSilviaSkywalker Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: whittier ca Posts: 347 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	op's build sounds ridiculous. nice job starting this thread. should definitely come in handy for a lot of us.

10-04-2012, 11:13 PM	#46
stylepointzz Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: State College, PA Posts: 148 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	This thread fucking rules

10-05-2012, 09:03 AM	#48
slidewayz240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wilmington, NC Age: 37 Posts: 299 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	My tubular front.

10-05-2012, 09:14 AM	#49
scottie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: asluT Posts: 1,287 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Here is mine. I copied Dai's S13 in that the interior cage "bolts" through the firewall, passes through the strut tower for extra reinforcement and ties at the front of the frame rails. A new boxed frame support goes across the bottom and ties into the nismo power brace as the factory piece does, just 10x stronger. In addition two support bars were added in the front for my Accusump canister. Anyways here is the result so far....

10-08-2012, 09:15 PM	#55
towlie Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pacific NorthWest Posts: 2,500 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	IMO that's a bad spot for the accusump. Rumble strip or off track skirmish could damage that

10-15-2012, 01:45 AM	#56
One_love_silvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Diego, CA So Cal Posts: 1,898 Trader Rating: (38) Feedback Score: 38 reviews	Would this pass a dmv inspection in california? __________________ 2016 Nissan 370z

10-15-2012, 07:56 PM	#58
GabeS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sin City Las Vegas Posts: 4,521 Trader Rating: (27) Rides Gallery: GabeS14 Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Glad too see this thread is making.more and more progress! __________________ E92 M3 19" wheels for sale///JWT Cams and Springs +30whp for sale... cheap.