Full-Race R14 at 2010 Modified Mag Tuner Shootout

[FullRaceGeoff]

EDIT: 2 good vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rbVCuz94QY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr3avR2vyZ8

Hello fellow nissan fanatics, I have decided to turn my R14 (GTR-based S14) into a time-attack machine for the big modified tuner shootout race event coming up. it will go back to occasional street car duty afterwards (its too much fun not to drive on the street), but first and foremost I am working hard to make the car competitive for the event. We got 2nd place the last 2 years in heavily modified street subarus and we dont want to give that up. A street subaru wont get us 2nd this year - there will be a UMS's sickass evo 8, a dedicated track porsche 911 twin turbo awd as well as the sierra sierra cosworth evo and tarzan is driving crawford's STI so we have to be on top of our game to do well. We have 10 weeks before the event. The chassis and engine are VERY solid and have plenty of time on them with no problems. Our driver is Mike Speck - an ace behind the wheel and knows this track extraordinarily well. I am getting a set of motons, and they will be used only for the track with the aero package on the car (will switch out to my koni 28 series for the street).

Specs are:

full roll cage, proper bracing in the right spots
r34 gtr brembos front and rear, raybestos motorsport pads, brake ducting
R32GTR front suspension, caster changed to 7degrees through custom upper control arm mounts. Stock swaybar, Stock Upper Arms, Stock lower arms, Stock tierods, Quaife Front LSD, urethane swaybar bushings
R33GTR rear suspension, full adjustable links, R32GTR stock swaybar, nismo LSD
Tires are Hoosier A6 (Autocross compound for time attack) and BFG R1 (enduro + lapping) 275/35 on a 18x10.5
Torque Split is running fixed with 40-55-60psi in the transfer case (ATTESSA eliminated) depending on preference and tires/track condition
its a built motor, borg warner airwerks twinscroll turbo, expecting 680-700hp on E85 (e85 helps response and spool), good oiling system and cooling is getting improved right now

here are some pics of the engine setup while i was daily driving it (engine/turbo will remain unchanged) and the twinscroll borg warner S300SX 88-75 turbo, with 90 degree compressor housing.



-- pump gas dyno at 19psi. e85 tune will be at 30 psi and will generate much more area-under-the-curve

some pics of the changes were making now:


^^new vmount, improved radiator airflow


^^modified R32 GTR spindles to accept the 1/2" heims on the motons AND dropped the toe link 30mm to adjust for bumpsteer. will finish machining this weekend


^^surge tank with dual 044s, to run 100psi base fuel pressure on E85

thanks for reading, ill try and update this again when were making progress

[jspaeth]

This thing is gonna be retarded!!!!!!!!!!

350 ft-lbs+ of torque from 4500-8000 in a 4 wheel drive 2700 lb car.

This should be insane, I wish I could watch in person.

[96Turbo]

WOW, ridiculous! Looks pretty perfect

Could you elaborate on how you control the torque split manually? You just regulate oil pressure to the transfer case or somethin?

Good luck in the time attack. Looks like the competition is pretty tough but i'm rooting for ya!

[RB24_S14]

holy shit. that is a monster!

[MikeisNissan]

couldnt you atleast get some glass headlights? anyway badass car!

[sickstatus]

beast!!!!!

[RPS13-604]

u guys never released pricing for the s13 awd swap? im expecting it to be in the 13,000 range?

[FullRaceGeoff]

Originally Posted by RPS13-604

u guys never released pricing for the s13 awd swap? im expecting it to be in the 13,000 range?

we will not be offering an R13 conversion kit anytime soon. HOWEVER - the main reason we are entering this race, to debut our DIY R14 kit in the magazine. In a few months we will be releasing a DIY-R14 kit that any skilled and competent mechanic with a 220V MIG can install. The price is going to be much lower than previous (please dont call the sales office bc they know nothing about this).

this conversion does not work in the S13 chassis nearly as well as S14.

Originally Posted by jspaeth

This thing is gonna be retarded!!!!!!!!!! 350 ft-lbs+ of torque from 4500-8000 in a 4 wheel drive 2700 lb car. This should be insane, I wish I could watch in person.

To be fair, she weighs 2950lb, the RB26 is a huge bitch! However well be making much more than 350lb-ft in race mode so it will be exciting to watch. Just ordered (4) go pro HD cameras to get some good footy

Originally Posted by 96Turbo

Could you elaborate on how you control the torque split manually? You just regulate oil pressure to the transfer case or somethin?Good luck in the time attack. Looks like the competition is pretty tough but i'm rooting for ya!

torque split in these cars is pretty simple, just variable pressure on a wet multi-plate clutch (just like inside an automatic transmission) so all you need to do is have a regulated control of hydraulic pressure on that wet clutch and thats what we developed our electronic attessa eliminator. im working on a complete install and FAQ for a total revampe of our R14 website and all this will be answered with pics and in depth info

Originally Posted by MikeisNissan

couldnt you atleast get some glass headlights? anyway badass car!

glass headlights are heavier. the only thing the headlights will change to is s14a or s15

Originally Posted by RB24_S14

holy shit. that is a monster!

Originally Posted by sickstatus

beast!!!!!

thanks guys!!

[mr_eh]

shazam, good luck with it, think it'll make it to the east coast this season?

[S14Serge]

Dam ive been following this car since it was featured in Modified! Dam what hard work you have invested in that car, and it show's big time! Good luck on all the exposure it will be getting in the shoot out.

[Scott@FontanaNissan]

seriously.....now that's how you build a car!!! Props to you guys at Full Race and good luck this year!!!

Scott

[FullRaceGeoff]

thanks guys, just spent all day welding some fender braces in (cage does not pierce the firewall) and working on the fuel system and belly pan. one of the gangster fabricators at Full-Race made some siiiick RUCAs, ill post pics up tomorrow, maybe some pics of the belly pan and jack points too

it might make it out to the east coast this summer, if not this one definitely next summer

[Scott@FontanaNissan]

Will we be seeing it at the Redline Time Attacks this year???

I'm currently selling my Street Class STi and will be building an S14 next! It's enlightening to see what you all have done with it!

Scott

[FullRaceGeoff]

to be honest this is my fun street car, not really meant to be a competitive time attack machine. If we decide to compete in redline, i have (2) s14 shells that we will choose between for another R14... although what class would we be in? I really dont follow the rulebook, just build my cars how i want

[Erjay1]

Wow, just wow. Your car is just absolutely beautiful. I love the paint, wheels, engine,......everything! Goodluck, Im sure this beast will come thru for you.

[FullRaceGeoff]

thank you erjay, we just finished up sealing up the flat bottom from frame rails to side skirts, next up is the rear bumper diffuser and then the adjustable front carbon kevlar splitter..

[z2roll4life7]

This Car is So Sick I Remember seeing this in modified mag it was (and still is) The Best 240 ive ever Seen I cant wait for a Kit to Go on Sale ill work 100hours a week to Build a car like this You Guy's are inspiration Plain and Simple Keep up the Good Work

[blackej7]

very interested in this, more pictures please!

[FullRaceGeoff]

been working on the car some more and will take some pics this weekend. here are some random ones to keep the thread alive




^^^my kind of RUCA, plenty of strut clearance, easy to get replacement heims for, and it cost $50 in parts


^^how the heim will sit inside of the welded spindle I posted last time



^^^welded the fender braces to the sheet metal, these can make a difference if the cage doesnt pierce the firewall - but only if they are welded in.



^^its a huge hassle to jack a 240 with big sideskirts + i needed some stiff mounts for the bellypan aero - so we made these jackpoints/bellypan mounts


^^^sealed up the area from frame rail to skirts, and put a little dynamat in there to keep things quiet. will finish the center and f/r in 2 weekends.

more random pics:

[turbo2nr]

omfg so much win!

i hope you guys win, about time the s-chassis got some recognition all these damm evo/sti taking all the glory. this car is gona be epic.

i love your choice of bw turbo btw.

cant wait to see the final outcome!

p.s. kouki conversion kouki>zenki!

[juve_240sx]

beautiful s14 and also the skyline

[FullRaceGeoff]

thanks for the props, so what headlights do you guys wanna see kouki or s15? it will probabbly happen right after the race

[reccakun08]

kouki front end is hot but i like the car the way it sits now.

[Flicktitty]

that thing is awesome!

[PoorMans180SX]

Keep it Zenki or go Kouki. S15 front doesn't belong on an S14.

[FullRaceGeoff]

yes but s15 is the most aerodynamic...

[turbo2nr]

do it now! kouki ftw!

[FullRaceGeoff]

i LOVE that car... just cant get used to the rear bumper lol although its straight up nascar:

[turbo2nr]

dont mean to clutter your thead with pics but i think this rear aero would go well with the overall look of that red s14..

your right way to nascar-ish as is lol

edit: wait its the same rear bumper as the red kouki with the diffuser add on nice !

[PoorMans180SX]

Originally Posted by FullRaceGeoff

yes but s15 is the most aerodynamic...

Yes, but it's still an S14. The front isn't going to change the aerodynamic properties a whole lot and it looks ugly.