NEW 240sx Big Brake Kit.. R&D

[Nonsense]

Sup guys,
Hopefully I get no "Nonsense" Replies on this but I'm wondering what you guys would like to suggest for a New Big Brake Kit for us 240sx owners.

I know the z32s/q45s/sti-evo brembo setups are out there.
but the main goal here is to have a Kit right out the box that will probably still
have the ability to keep that e-brake



I am currently working with a company to develop a New BBK that is affordable and reliable and will also increase braking performance. So far we have a couple Ideas but id like to hear some of your opinions on which size rotors you would like to have under your belt. don't worry about the calipers for now just some basic suggestions on rotors and why you would prefer the size.

IF and HOPEFULLY it all turns out for the best,
we get enough input and demand for this project.
WE will have this fall through production and improve our 240sx community
with a new performance bbk.

Once again,
Which size rotors would you guys be interested in?

I may also be able to put together a Two-Piece rotor for
those 240 track bulls,
But again, if demand is high.
I will try my best to have this available.

Tell em friends!!

[BigKriss]

356mm diameter , 6pot front,356mm rear, 4 pot rears with e-brake setup.

Rears..


Fronts....



May give you an idea of what will work on the S chassis as well..I have retro fitted Audi b7 Turbo stuff, Audi A8 ceramics etc..
Will watch your progress closely..cheers.

[Nonsense]

How did you manage to still have your ebrake?
PM for more details if you like,
Ill be very interested in discussing this with you,

We might be able to work something out like this.

What were trying to aim for is a set up similar to yours
Mainly with the ability to also keep the e-brake.

[S14DB]

Wilwood High-Performance Disc Brakes - Combination P-Brake Calipers

[manny(ΣAE)]

R1Concepts - OEM, Drilled & Slotted Brake Rotors - Brake Pads - Brake Calipers

[Croustibat]

That looks like an advertisement thread, and the OP surely not has an ad account.

Anyway, def is currently advertising a wilwood real brake group buy on nrr, if people are interested. I am calling it "real brake" instead of "big brake" because they are no show brakes; they work very well, have an unbeatable weight and low maintenance price. Size is 300x32mm, 2 piece wilwood rotors, wilwood 4pots aluminium forged calipers(option for 6 pots i believe) and so on.

But of course, it does not fill a wheel. They are all bite and not much bark.

[BigKriss]

The brakes as depicted on my car are a local South African development by Vari Performance.
Rinaldo , the owner developed the e-brake caliper and mine are the second set to be fitted to a car. The first set were to a Volvo C40.
A clever little design of his but it needs to be tried and tested..

Check out the little "ears" sticking out from the edge of the caliper.
Simply two arms on a fulcrum hat are pulled in by the h/brake cable, moving the pads into contact with the disc..
I would not initiate drifting slides with it but it works well on quite steep inclines.

[BigKriss]

Just Google d Vari. Check out the link , shows pics of the red Volvo I mentioned as well as the open caliper showing the e brake workings..
Notice the 12 pot Hummer type calipers this guy is making..
The pic of the MR wheel is my mates Toyota Celica GT4..
https://www.google.co.za/search?q=va...w=1680&bih=860

[Nonsense]

Thats interesting...

What i could try to do is keep the Stock calipers and use a design to make the bracket longer to fit a larger diameter rotor with the same Original rotor thickness..

Basically keeping the stock calipers, brake, brake master cylinder, act
while allowing around the same oem wheel clearance, keeping your own current hub set up, AND adding a larger rotor?

opinions??

[S14DB]

Stock single pistons?

[soundboy]

Larger rotor doesn't make sense with stock pistons.

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[Nonsense]

Pretty much stock pistons. Yes

[jr_ss]

It's all been done... They have caliper spacers, to allow for a large diameter rotor for more braking torque w/ the factory caliper(I know they do for the rear brakes, unsure of for the front, but pointless). You can't beat a bolt on setup such as the Brembo/Z32 brakes. More than just caliper/rotor size has to be taken into account. Brake bias will be effected if you up the ante, which leads to master cylinder changes as well.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by jr_ss

It's all been done... They have caliper spacers, to allow for a large diameter rotor for more braking torque w/ the factory caliper(I know they do for the rear brakes, unsure of for the front, but pointless). You can't beat a bolt on setup such as the Brembo/Z32 brakes. More than just caliper/rotor size has to be taken into account. Brake bias will be effected if you up the ante, which leads to master cylinder changes as well.

For example:
Z1 Motorsports Brembo Brake Rotor Conversion Kit

[Nonsense]

So far we are trying to include a front and rear kit
that will possibly fit 370z rotors (355mm x 32mm) - front
(350mm x 30mm) - Rear

or simply 350z Track size rotors (324mm x 30mm) - front
(322mm x 22mm) - Rear

Sizes similar to rotors mentioned.

New Brake Pads, SS brake lines, and hopefully be able to include the z32 rear drum brake assembly for the e-brake function. (if there is a possible source).

we are still debating on caliper size/pistons..
rotors will most likely be two piece.

opinions?

[jr_ss]

With what calipers? I hope your aren't trying it with the Z32 caliper/pad. On the 350 Brembo rotor/Z32 caliper setup, the pad hangs over a good .125", rendering that portion of the pad useless.

You're trying to reinvent the wheel here.

[97nismo]

Yea and for people on a budget nothing stops much better than my setup

Sentra front brembos 305mm x 22mm
Altima rotor in rear with z31 carrier

So many options already not sure what your trying to do here

[Nonsense]

No stock calipers will be used,

What we have been thinking of possibly doing is a new kit with new calipers, rotors, pads, and ss brake lines and a 240sx to 300zx brake master cylinder including the 300zx drum brake assembly (if we can hopefully find a source) to keep the e-brake. We will build custom built rotors to have the ability to use the 300zx drum set up while having a larger rotor..

If all is well.. a all in one kit.


we are going to be testing the fitment and pad contact to insure its actually a brake upgrade. rather than what what jr_ss mentioned about the pads.

the main goal here is to have a complete kit with all the bells and whistles.
where performance will be key.

opinions on what rotor dimensions and caliper size can be use full
for this development.

and yes,
budget will determine what brake upgrade you will end up with,
we are hoping to make a true performance BBK that will be affordable for those who actually seek a performance Brake kit for their use.

[Mile High Silvia]

I have the stop tech kit up front with stock rear caliper and stoptech rotors and dono what pads. But it'll stop for sure. Think I need a proportioning valve as it will lock up the front tires if I stomp on it.

[Mile High Silvia]

[Nonsense]

Originally Posted by Mile High Silvia

I have the stop tech kit up front with stock rear caliper and stoptech rotors and dono what pads. But it'll stop for sure. Think I need a proportioning valve as it will lock up the front tires if I stomp on it.

Nice!
Whats your review on them so far?

[Nonsense]

We have considered to use 330mm x 22mm Rotors.

[holemilk00]

After putting the 370z akebono kit on with the larger master, the rest of this thread is useless. And front and rears can be had for $1200. Don't know anything that can beat that for pad surface, piston size, area force, and over all braking torque for $1200.

[Nonsense]

That actually is true..
I looked them up at z1 motoring,
that is a very good deal.
Its going to be hard to try and produce a better product.
but ill try to work something out,

Do you think a 14' rotor will be a need/want for a 240sx?

[Nonsense]

Originally Posted by holemilk00

After putting the 370z akebono kit on with the larger master, the rest of this thread is useless. And front and rears can be had for $1200. Don't know anything that can beat that for pad surface, piston size, area force, and over all braking torque for $1200.

Thanks for the input

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by Nonsense

We have considered to use 330mm x 22mm Rotors.

Kind of thin IMHO. Would prefer 32mm thick.

You also want to note people looking for stopping performance will probably be running a 17" wheel.

[Chaluska]

i love, love LOVE my CTS-V calipers with EVO 8 slotted rotors, and Ferrari OEM brake pads.

my S13 stops on a hair.



from a manufacturing standpoint, if you can use those calipers, they are like $126.00 brand new from GM each.. it is literally the best bang for your buck

my whole setup was just under $700.00

[Nonsense]

Originally Posted by Chaluska

i love, love LOVE my CTS-V calipers with EVO 8 slotted rotors, and Ferrari OEM brake pads.

my S13 stops on a hair.



from a manufacturing standpoint, if you can use those calipers, they are like $126.00 brand new from GM each.. it is literally the best bang for your buck

my whole setup was just under $700.00

Did you set up your e-brake?

and did you print the Nissan on them?
the pictured calipers are CTS-V?? or from a Nissan?

[Nonsense]

Originally Posted by S14DB

Kind of thin IMHO. Would prefer 32mm thick.

You also want to note people looking for stopping performance will probably be running a 17" wheel.

Ill take a thicker rotor under consideration.
Ill keep you guys updated

[jr_ss]

Problem with the Akebono, CTS-V, etc is they are heavy. However, most people aren't concerned with that.

I run an aftermarket Wilwood setup with 350Z Brembo rotors. Pads are extremely cheap and so are the calipers. The whole setup can be had for under $600 dollars, cheaper if you buy cheaper rotors.