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Yeah, they should work with keys out when stalk is turned to #1 position, and they were working fine just a few days ago. My issue is stalk is turned off and they are still on. I'm thinking it's either stalk or controller under steering column. I'll check it out but hopefully it just might go away on it's own. Car was sitting for a few years at least so I'm sure the electronics and relays might be sticky. Just happened all of a sudden after car had been sitting for a day or two with battery disconnected. I connected battery and they just turned on like that.
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