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Originally Posted by Flybert

This is me. I was doing 4th gear entries after the competition was done. Early in the day we were doing 3rd gear stuff to practice for the team comp.

Ahhh ok.. who won any way?? kinda sucked cause the only real visible action was at the left loop.. pretty big for buttonwillow. Ill hit you up nextime theres an event there if you are there

Originally Posted by ericcastro

Not to offend you, but if your talking stock KA.
You are not harder on the engine then me, lol.

And technically, if you were harder on the engine, you would be getting even more out of it and prolly want to use the ebrake to keep a drift after a long shallow transition.

I actually ebrake more in my SOHC.

Its because i dont have the power to maintain really long drifts or get the car to step back out when its trying to catch.
Or
Because i lack the power to actually propel myself away from a wall, so as i come in sideways, i need to slow it down so as i am coming around a wall, i dont get in deeper than a little tap.

yeah, come to the track.

Here is a run i did at Balconey years ago.
3rd gear entry with ebrake, shift into 2nd during the transition.
Since i lift to transition, it makes it easy to put the clutch in during that time and shift really fast.
you can see where i am clutch kicking because the car steps out pretty hard.

it was kinda a stupid point to begin with because they all have limits but due to budget buttonwillow skid pad is where we go. like 2nd gear tops lol
I have hit some big drifts w/o the ebrake but not out there. it was out at Etown club loose... been a while. I will be transfering to willowsprings cause I need to train on the bigger turns. and I hear springs has a membership where its real cheap now so see you there and we can put description into actuality...

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

I saw my car! lol.


Come to 626 event...i teach you secret.

lol....there is sooooooooooooooooooo much different situations involved. Get Forza 3. Learn how to drift differently in the game, it'll help you for real life.

I'm really big on clutch kicking. Balcony, 3rd gear initiation, clutch kit, don't lift till transition, quickly counter, and never lift....any other track is about the same. I only use e-brake for mistakes. I don't have enough power to e-brake initiate....its not worth it.

here is a video compliments of castro.

at 1:10, you can see the "quick" flick of the steering wheel to get the weight to transfer. (stock ka on 18's for the record...anyone can drift)

at 1:38, you can see it at a different angle, doesn't look like a big flick, but it's enough to get the car to slide out, and I used to brake during transition to stable the car, but with time...i don't need to anymore.

March Madness on Vimeo

and I have driven almost every different type of car and setup, so I have a wide learning range of cars for balcony specific, but I'm sure with certain setups, they will be just as good on other tracks.

and I've had no problem drifting a completely stock SOHC. (i once had someone tell me it couldn't be done in his car)

I cant wait to get out there. next chance I have I will. Is Gabes14 (screen name) out there often?

thanks fellas