If anyone is interested in a 17 inch 4 inch lip and a barrel please let me know. These are both 35 hole, came from my panas. The barrel is the original panasports C5C2s. And the lip is like new from VR Wheels not a ding or anything on it. Asking $200. Will ship at buyers expense. Basically get a panasport face and the hardware and you have a wheel.