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dynamicck · 10-18-2008, 06:50 PM

Since same sex marriage is being pushed, polygamists (multiple partners) are advocated that polygamy should not be criminalized.

If two consenting adults can marry, why cant multiple consenting adults marry? or a brother and sister marry?
Now the line of marriage is blurring, how can a brother/sister marriage be allowed? Only because genetically it is wrong? Well so it two males/females marrying.

Might as well let everyone and anyone get married of legal age.

kognition · 10-18-2008, 07:29 PM

Shotgun weddings! FTL!

***S14DB*** · 10-18-2008, 07:31 PM

LOL, the biggest threat to marriage these days is divorce. Since half of all marriages end in it. I love people that have been divorced start talking about the sanctity of marriage. Especially the holier then thou politicians.

ESmorz · 10-18-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dynamicck

Since same sex marriage is being pushed, polygamists (multiple partners) are advocated that polygamy should not be criminalized.

If two consenting adults can marry, why cant multiple consenting adults marry? or a brother and sister marry?
Now the line of marriage is blurring, how can a brother/sister marriage be allowed? Only because genetically it is wrong? Well so it two males/females marrying.

Might as well let everyone and anyone get married of legal age.

Yeah because polygamy is exactly the same as same sex marriage.

False comparisons, cool.

So the fuck what if your kid learns about same sex marriage? You think you are going to be able to shelter them from homosexuality forever. Hell, half the cartoons they watch have a gay character or are written by gay dudes. They probably will know more about it than you do. I just hope in a few generations all your kind will gradually begin to melt away. You are no better than the ignorant feddy flag waivers in the south.

Now if you will excuse me I'm gonna go teach my five illegitimate children and my ex wife about same sex marriage and then go marry a duck.

EDacIouSX · 10-18-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ALEXTHESUS*PECT

but what you are also voting for is healthcare covarge for the partner, child custody battles, last will and testimant payouts.

there is alot more at stake to many of these couples than just getting the ceramony official!

my problem with "gay marriage" is the fact its called gay marriage.

call it something else just dont call ir marriage.

vodka2 · 10-19-2008, 01:29 AM

Gathering of two homosexuals in a ritual of artificial love..... FTL?
Edit: I didnt call it marriage

kognition · 10-19-2008, 11:58 PM

I was kidding, but who really cares if two gays or lesbians want to marry? Who is threatened by that? The church and their followers from what i am seeing. My neighbor has one of those "Yes on Prop 8" banners in their yard. Their kids go to catholic school. They will grow up to be successful little homophobes.

God bless america.

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Originally Posted by vodka2

Gathering of two homosexuals in a ritual of artificial love..... FTL?
Edit: I didnt call it marriage

ESmorz · 10-20-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kognition

I was kidding, but who really cares if two gays or lesbians want to marry? Who is threatened by that? The church and their followers from what i am seeing. My neighbor has one of those "Yes on Prop 8" banners in their yard. Their kids go to catholic school. They will grow up to be successful little homophobes.

God bless america.

Or little crack heads who live in the same town for the rest of their lives.

Like most of the people who went to private Chrisitan schools with me.

*SexPanda* · 10-20-2008, 12:33 AM

lol this thread is win...

Its always funny watching people argue over silly things. Why not let gays get married? That just means more women for us strait guys! And idk how being gay is a concious choice. I always hear strait people say that. I've never once met a gay guy who was like "I just decided I liked dick more than vagina". Its always like "I always knew I was different. Turns out I was gay! Wanna go shopping?"

And again, this country may have been founded on christian morals and beliefs... But seriously, you're blind if you don't see those morals and values have gone out the window lol. Porn on TV, killing people and rape in music, sex before marraige, teen pregnancy errrwhere... There's no sense in arguing the little shit like gay marraige when you should be concerned about the bigger things.

vodka2 · 10-20-2008, 12:39 AM

its not about the guys its about the girls .. i used to have so many hot chicks half of them turn lesbian .. i guess they think they are too cute and find girlfriends ... partys turn girls out ftl .....but the moments ... win

ESmorz · 10-20-2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by vodka2

its not about the guys its about the girls .. i used to have so many hot chicks half of them turn lesbian .. i guess they think they are too cute and find girlfriends ... partys turn girls out ftl .....but the moments ... win

Sure.

Hot lesbians only exist in porn.

Drunk girls getting down isn't Lesbian.

*cc4usmc* · 10-20-2008, 01:13 AM

The other day on the news they had a little girl that said something like “ I was told that kings (males) can marry kings, so when I grow up I want to marry a princess”. Seriously? Would you be ok if your daughter said that? Then I was watching tv tonight, and there was a commercial for a homosexual dating service. Just because marriages are going out the shitter doesn't mean we might as well just say fuck the whole thing. If something is broke, do you leave it broke or fix it? Same thing goes for the bad parents. Just because there are some bad parents doesn't mean that we might as well throw the whole idea out and let two people of the same sex have kids. The US is just one big melting pot that's got too many ingredients.

ESmorz · 10-20-2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

The other day on the news they had a little girl that said something like “ I was told that kings (males) can marry kings, so when I grow up I want to marry a princess”. Seriously? Would you be ok if your daughter said that?

Little boys and girls also say they want to marry their mommy's and daddy's.

*cc4usmc* · 10-20-2008, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

Little boys and girls also say they want to marry their mommy's and daddy's.

You know what I'd tell my daughter if she said that to me? "I'm sorry sweetheart, I'm already married to your mommy". Then she'll get over it just like every kid that says that does. Nice try Es lol

I'm not against a gay union. I don't see why they have to make such a big deal about making sure that it's recognized as a marriage. Call it something else and eventually accommodate it. Don't teach religion, but continue to teach the commandments (or call them whatever you like!) because they are good principles to live by. Don't teach gay union until they're at an age when they can think for themselves.

ESmorz · 10-20-2008, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

You know what I'd tell my daughter if she said that to me? "I'm sorry sweetheart, I'm already married to your mommy". Then she'll get over it just like every kid that says that does. Nice try Es lol

Then you could easily tell your kid that you would much rather her marry a prince or him a princess. If your kid is going to be gay. It will happen whether or not they say something they heard at school.

Kids say the darnedest things.

***S14DB*** · 10-20-2008, 01:39 AM

To question the sexuality of any pre-pubescent child is stupid. Most of them think the opposite sex has cuties. For them to even get the concept of what is going on is a stretch.

Just another "save the children" cop out. I don't hate gays, it's to protect the children...

*cc4usmc* · 10-20-2008, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

If your kid is going to be gay. It will happen whether or not they say something they heard at school.

I don't believe that. Homosexual people weren't told that its ok to like the same sex, they just did because it was natural for them. There is nothing natural about telling every kid that it's ok to like the same sex.

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Just another "save the children" cop out. I don't hate gays, it's to protect the children...

Well then lets just say fuck it all and throw out all morals and principles taught to children. If you teach a kid that stealing is wrong, he's going to believe it. If you teach a kid that shooting people in the head because you're upset with them is wrong, he's going to believe it. If you teach a kid that beating up girls is wrong, he's going to believe it. If you teach them the opposite, well fuck they're gonna believe it and they're gonna do it.

ESmorz · 10-20-2008, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

Well then lets just say fuck it all and throw out all morals and principles taught to children.

Morals between those who are for gay marriage and those who are opposed to it will often differ.

Who is to say who's are right?

Expose kids to the world.

If anything we should be keeping our children in less of the "Hail America the Perfect" bubble anyways.

If you don't believe your kids should be taught this, put a little extra into parenting, send them to some nazi christian school and be done with it. Adapt and evolve with the times. Humans are good at it.

But telling a kid that if they later in life can choose to marry whoever they want isn't going to have any bearing on sexual preference. I don't know any gay people who only though they were gay once they knew cowboys weren't going to drag them behind their truck.

*cc4usmc* · 10-20-2008, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

But telling a kid that if they later in life can choose to marry whoever they want isn't going to have any bearing on sexual preference.

I don't think it will even have anything to do with sexual preference if you teach them that is ok. We might as well eliminate the whole "sexual preference" thing all together. It all depends on how a child is brought up, for the most part.

***S14DB*** · 10-20-2008, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

I don't believe that. Homosexual people weren't told that its ok to like the same sex, they just did because it was natural for them. There is nothing natural about telling every kid that it's ok to like the same sex.

Well then lets just say fuck it all and throw out all morals and principles taught to children. If you teach a kid that stealing is wrong, he's going to believe it. If you teach a kid that shooting people in the head because you're upset with them is wrong, he's going to believe it. If you teach a kid that beating up girls is wrong, he's going to believe it. If you teach them the opposite, well fuck they're gonna believe it and they're gonna do it.

So, now gays are the same as Thieves and Murder's?

EDacIouSX · 10-20-2008, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

The other day on the news they had a little girl that said something like “ I was told that kings (males) can marry kings, so when I grow up I want to marry a princess”. Seriously? Would you be ok if your daughter said that? Then I was watching tv tonight, and there was a commercial for a homosexual dating service. Just because marriages are going out the shitter doesn't mean we might as well just say fuck the whole thing. If something is broke, do you leave it broke or fix it? Same thing goes for the bad parents. Just because there are some bad parents doesn't mean that we might as well throw the whole idea out and let two people of the same sex have kids. The US is just one big melting pot that's got too many ingredients.

year i heard about that kings can marry kings bullshit. wtf is wrong with people. why do you have to tell kids about this bullshit. know your fucking role and teach kids how to fucking read and not who they can fuck. fucking retarded ass teachers.

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

Little boys and girls also say they want to marry their mommy's and daddy's.

i dont know what kind of boys and girls you hang around with but i've never heard of that before

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

I'm not against a gay union. I don't see why they have to make such a big deal about making sure that it's recognized as a marriage. Call it something else and eventually accommodate it. Don't teach religion, but continue to teach the commandments (or call them whatever you like!) because they are good principles to live by. Don't teach gay union until they're at an age when they can think for themselves.

they are making it such a big deal because they are bitches. seriously gay people account for 1% of society. these homos are trying to dictate what the other 99% should do. wtf? And seriously, whats the problem with calling it something else. it'll make everyone happy and the gay people will get exactly what they want, all the rights a straight couple has.

And you know what else pisses me off?!?

Gay people say "we want equal rights"

well they fucking have equal rights. you don't see straight dudes being able to marry other straight dudes so wtf.

all men can marry women and all women can marry men. I don't see where people are being left out. I mean, gay people are men and women too right? wtf.

ESmorz · 10-20-2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

they are making it such a big deal because they are bitches. seriously gay people account for 1% of society. these homos are trying to dictate what the other 99% should do. wtf?

Hey cool, some good 'ol fashioned bigotry.

Your idea of perfection?

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Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

i dont know what kind of boys and girls you hang around with but i've never heard of that before

Take a psychology or child development class.

dynamicck · 10-20-2008, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

Yeah because polygamy is exactly the same as same sex marriage.

False comparisons, cool.

So the fuck what if your kid learns about same sex marriage? You think you are going to be able to shelter them from homosexuality forever. Hell, half the cartoons they watch have a gay character or are written by gay dudes. They probably will know more about it than you do. I just hope in a few generations all your kind will gradually begin to melt away. You are no better than the ignorant feddy flag waivers in the south.

Now if you will excuse me I'm gonna go teach my five illegitimate children and my ex wife about same sex marriage and then go marry a duck.

Same sex marriage and polygamy are not exactly the same. But why does it bother you so much?
If they are all consenting adults, why do you care?

Polygamy is considered wrong because this country was based on religious values. But there were many other countries that polygamy was natural. It wasnt until western influence said it was wrong, that they decided to ban/outlaw it.

I'm not saying that polygamy marriages should get the same rights as a marriage, but de-criminalized.

So my argument is, if this country is not influenced by religion, why not allow all types of marriages?
Because marriage of the state is not the same as marriage of religion.

*cc4usmc* · 10-20-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

So, now gays are the same as Thieves and Murder's?

Ugh. Gay people these days, the ones bitching and complaining, were just born to love dick on dick action. The thief and murderer thing was just an example. If you teach your kid that stealing is bad, and they steal anyways, its just their nature. Some people just cannot not steal. Just like those people that constantly tell lies.. what are they called again? Anyways.. if you teach a kid nothing about stealing, they're going to do it just because they don't know any better.

I saw a commercial for an episode of Sarah Silverman's comedy show. In the episode, she wanted to marry her dog. Now, if that were a real life situation and some chick actually loved her dog, would you be ok with her marrying it?

A lot of people have said in this thread that who are we to say that it is wrong. Well you are you to say it's right? They can be together for all I care, but I don't want to see their damn homosexual dating service commercial when I'm watching T.V.

ESmorz · 10-20-2008, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dynamicck

But why does it bother you so much?
If they are all consenting adults, why do you care?

Honestly. I don't care. Except that where polygamy is usually present it's just to propagate more little inbred creatures into whatever fucked up religion they belong to, and the kids growing up in those kind of households typically are subjected to some kind of trauma or sexual abuse.

I'm just saying it's not the same thing and could use a topic of it's own.

***S14DB*** · 10-20-2008, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

Ugh. Gay people these days, the ones bitching and complaining, were just born to love dick on dick action. The thief and murderer thing was just an example. If you teach your kid that stealing is bad, and they steal anyways, its just their nature. Some people just cannot not steal. Just like those people that constantly tell lies.. what are they called again? Anyways.. if you teach a kid nothing about stealing, they're going to do it just because they don't know any better.

Yeah, just like those blacks wanting rights too...

I still don't know why you would teach your kids these things before puberty. It's purely and adult issue.

*cc4usmc* · 10-20-2008, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

Yeah, just like those blacks wanting rights too...

I still don't know why you would teach your kids these things before puberty. It's purely and adult issue.

Wtf does the black people comment have anything to do with this?

It is an adult issue, and shouldn't be taught before puberty. If that's what you were saying, then you and I finally agree on something.

Anyways... no matter what this discussion isn't going to go anywhere... so I'm out. Peace fellas

xpl2007 · 10-20-2008, 02:59 AM

So its going to be Barbie and Barbie, instead of Ken... Or Ken and Hector....lol

***S14DB*** · 10-20-2008, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

Wtf does the black people comment have anything to do with this?

Same lies that were spread to support Anti-miscegenation laws are now being used to stop gay marriage. US has a great history of rehashing bullshit to disenfranchise people.

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It is an adult issue, and shouldn't be taught before puberty. If that's what you were saying, then you and I finally agree on something

I'm just sick of anyone taking an Adult issue and making up a way it affects children then plays the "Protect the Children!" card. Total soccer mom mentality. Exploit their kids to get what they want. Like dragging their kids to protests.

*irax* · 10-20-2008, 06:49 AM

I want to have a straight male/male marriage, does some one want to be my partner? I want to have a marriage that is purely for the tax benefits.

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10-18-2008, 07:29 PM	#122
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10-18-2008, 07:31 PM	#123
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 14,322 Trader Rating: (1)	LOL, the biggest threat to marriage these days is divorce. Since half of all marriages end in it. I love people that have been divorced start talking about the sanctity of marriage. Especially the holier then thou politicians. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact.

10-20-2008, 12:33 AM	#129
SexPanda Good touch/Bad touch Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Selling you cigarettes and alcohol Posts: 3,188 Trader Rating: (0)	lol this thread is win... Its always funny watching people argue over silly things. Why not let gays get married? That just means more women for us strait guys! And idk how being gay is a concious choice. I always hear strait people say that. I've never once met a gay guy who was like "I just decided I liked dick more than vagina". Its always like "I always knew I was different. Turns out I was gay! Wanna go shopping?" And again, this country may have been founded on christian morals and beliefs... But seriously, you're blind if you don't see those morals and values have gone out the window lol. Porn on TV, killing people and rape in music, sex before marraige, teen pregnancy errrwhere... There's no sense in arguing the little shit like gay marraige when you should be concerned about the bigger things. __________________ 417Racing's Annual Toy's4Tots cruise-Dec 19 BRAND NEW GReddy PRofec E-01 EBC for sale, Cheap!

10-20-2008, 01:13 AM	#132
cc4usmc My member is Premium Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Elk Grove/the916/95758/NorCal Posts: 3,589 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: cc4usmc	The other day on the news they had a little girl that said something like “ I was told that kings (males) can marry kings, so when I grow up I want to marry a princess”. Seriously? Would you be ok if your daughter said that? Then I was watching tv tonight, and there was a commercial for a homosexual dating service. Just because marriages are going out the shitter doesn't mean we might as well just say fuck the whole thing. If something is broke, do you leave it broke or fix it? Same thing goes for the bad parents. Just because there are some bad parents doesn't mean that we might as well throw the whole idea out and let two people of the same sex have kids. The US is just one big melting pot that's got too many ingredients. __________________ "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" -Thomas Jefferson

10-18-2008, 06:50 PM	#121
dynamicck Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: HB Posts: 340 Trader Rating: (1)	Since same sex marriage is being pushed, polygamists (multiple partners) are advocated that polygamy should not be criminalized. If two consenting adults can marry, why cant multiple consenting adults marry? or a brother and sister marry? Now the line of marriage is blurring, how can a brother/sister marriage be allowed? Only because genetically it is wrong? Well so it two males/females marrying. Might as well let everyone and anyone get married of legal age.

10-19-2008, 01:29 AM	#126
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10-20-2008, 12:39 AM	#130
vodka2 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los angeles Posts: 1,179 Trader Rating: (18)	its not about the guys its about the girls .. i used to have so many hot chicks half of them turn lesbian .. i guess they think they are too cute and find girlfriends ... partys turn girls out ftl .....but the moments ... win

10-20-2008, 01:39 AM	#136
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 14,322 Trader Rating: (1)	To question the sexuality of any pre-pubescent child is stupid. Most of them think the opposite sex has cuties. For them to even get the concept of what is going on is a stretch. Just another "save the children" cop out. I don't hate gays, it's to protect the children... __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact.

10-20-2008, 02:59 AM	#148
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