Originally Posted by SilviaDoctrine

Lol I don't think were ignorant and close-minded. You are right, immediately it doesn't affect us. However in the long run, it does. I mean ever since we started to stray from the traditional values the U.S. was brought upon, society has taken a huge downturn. First we allow gay marriages, than what? Legalize prostitution? Legalize marijuana? All of them have just as many excuses as to why they should be legal. Does it make it right? no. Did the traditional system work for hundreds of years? yes. I believe gay marriage is a gateway subject to legalizing more things that will demoralize our country.

PLEASE NOTE, IF I SAID ANYTHING TO OFFEND ANYONE, I APOLOGIZE BEFOREHAND. ONLY MY PERSONAL BELIEF. ALSO I AM NOT ATTACKING ANYONE IN MY STATEMENTS, PEOPLE CHILL OUT AND LETS HAVE A CIVIL DISPUTE.

If that can't happen than this thread fails.

Originally Posted by drftmark

I don't think gays should get married.

You can bring in all this "They are holding people back from being in love!!!"

Oh please, give me a break.

Next we will be voting if 5 year old gf and bf can get married because they love each other.

Or 5 year old gf/gf and bf/bf can get married lolololol

If they really need a piece of paper saying they love each other then they can go suck one....... or not.

Originally Posted by ESmorz

You would be from Texas.

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Conscious choice? Dude you think people decide to become ostracized? Discriminated against? Ridiculed by the likes of people like you? You think people feel its cool to be gay?
Man take off the rosy glasses, put down the bible you have mistinterpreted and wake the fuck up. You be smoking that middle American right wing christian bullshit.

I was raised Roman Catholic,aka Christian. I do not follow the church per se but I do believe in the existance of God and pratice spirituality.

Fact is and this is written in the bible. "Judge not lest ye be Judged"

In other words its really not our place to condemn others. Of course being human and prone to sin we do. I suggest you try not. I try not to.
If you really are Christian you must also realize Jesus accepted all regardless. Now did God intend people to be gay? No, but see God's great creation is set up to have variables.
Oh and I do believe in evolution and God and Evolution can coexist.

Oh and yes I am not gay, but I know gays and they have said before that they did not ask to be gay. I.E. it was something they were born feeling! Not a choice. If you think its choice well then your pretty damn ignorant and blinded by the church goers around you.

Please take your bigotry somewhere else because thats what your statement amounts to.

Originally Posted by BustedS13

meet an "otaku"
go to a party they want to go to
be amazed by lives wasted on nonsense

then again
meet a "240sx enthusiast"
go to a meet they want to go to
same

Originally Posted by spoolandslide

Its a cop out answer because its such a narrow minded, ignorant, bullshit view.

Originally Posted by drftmark

Hahaha.

This coming from the hate crime defender. "Judging" me from where I am from haha.

You are a big hypocrite.

But no worries, I agree with a lot of your posts in other threads.

Originally Posted by ESmorz

Lol @ judging you. I was just making a joke. Everyone is a hypocrite.

Originally Posted by future240

I am almost speechless. I mean, you just summed up everything I believe in. This man deserves a round of applause, a beer and a fine bitch

Originally Posted by drftmark

I love you too- not in a prop 8 way (lol).




According to him, he needs a fine dude. hahaha

but anyway this part what he said is what bugs me.

"Man take off the rosy glasses, put down the bible you have mistinterpreted and wake the fuck up. You be smoking that middle American right wing christian bullshit."

I have no idea what the fuck hes talking about misinterpreting the bible when it clearly states it.

Leviticus 18:22
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.

Genesis 2:24
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

Romans 1:26-27
For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

I could quote many more but I would rather not bore anyone further than this.

Now, I wouldn't even view myself as christian at all, but I just find it ridiculous to say that people are "misinterpreting" something so clear.

Originally Posted by ZipTiedCoupe

Not to mention Sodom and Gomorrah. Genesis 19.

Sadly, in todays world, Christians do "attack" homosexuals. The Bible teaches to Love thy neighbor, not hate all and love only Christians.

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

I really don't like this turning into a religious debate, but please allow me to say this.


L. Ron Hubbard wrote a book, filled with stories and fables, and a religion was based off of it. The members of that religion are highly criticized.

King James (among others) translated and CHANGED a collection of stories and fables, put them all in one book, and a religion was based off of it. The members of that religion have taken over most of the world.


Now, let it be said. I believe in God. I have read the Bible. I enjoy the lessons it teaches, and was brought up to respect it. However I do not regard it as the "END ALL KNOW ALL". Except for maybe the words written in red and even those have been translated from someone's interpretation of what was said at the time.

Both sides of this argument have quoted scripture and passages to support how they feel one way or another. That just proves that it has been personal preference that has dictated the Bible throughout history. When you pick and choose verses, you can make whatever claims you like.

I'm pretty much done with this Thread and I don't forsee it staying open much longer.

This should be a discussion about human rights, not religious practices.

Originally Posted by g-via

were you going to fill that ugly fender gap with your hopes and dreams?

Originally Posted by xdarkrune

tobacco and alcohol KILL more than pot does. you dont see anyone trying to make that shit illegal do you???

Originally Posted by luckvx

fuck gay marriage, eh i just dont like it

Originally Posted by revat619

OMG, for the billionth time...

This proposition is NOT, i repeat, IS NOT about gay rights. It is about the DEFINITION of the WORD marriage. Homosexual couples have all the same rights/benefits as married couples. FOR THE SECOND TIME, its called a civil union. As far as taxes, employer benefits for your spouse, etc. civil union = marriage. The only difference is that it takes longer to say.