Quick ratio manual steering racks. Who wants them?

blu808 · 06-02-2008, 06:17 PM

Trying to gauge interest.

Would you zilvians be interested in quick ratio steering racks?

Benefits:
Fast correction
Reduced steering imput
deletion of entire power steering system 28 lbs savings.
no core charge
different travel rates (increased steering angle)
free up power (no ps belt)
one less thing to leak

Detriments:
hard to turn when stopped
would be twitchy for everyday driving (sens steering input)
cost?

So let me know if you guys would be interested.
Thanks.
Luke

*steve_o1989* · 06-02-2008, 06:21 PM

There was a group buy a while back to get a batch of these made up. If I remember correctly though, those ones would need a spacer made up because the rack was not as big in diameter as the original. I don't know if the group buy even went through.

It would be cool if someone stocked a manual steering rack for the S chassis.

*90hatchie* · 06-02-2008, 07:56 PM

i never seen any over 300 bucks....
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/2030...Quickener.html
reccomended by the guys at ziptied

blu808 · 06-03-2008, 03:53 AM

Yea. We used one of these on the jasper supra.

Seemed to work well.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/7732...Quickener.html

downshift_sideways · 06-04-2008, 04:52 AM

Do you have a model / test car?

if you would let me drive it, I'll get one if I like the feeling.

(just DD drive is what I mean.)

a_ahmed · 06-04-2008, 07:38 AM

I wish I could try one of these steering quickeners..

I just bought a refurbished/new hicas rack from frsport........ i already have a hicas rack but its 20 years old haha.. so time for a change... but damn... i paid alot

Never driven a car with steering quickener, although I'd like to get a feel for it....

JohnD1079 · 06-04-2008, 07:56 AM

I would be interested. Doesnt the 300zx rack have quicker ratios?

*drift freaq* · 06-04-2008, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_ahmed

I wish I could try one of these steering quickeners..

I just bought a refurbished/new hicas rack from frsport........ i already have a hicas rack but its 20 years old haha.. so time for a change... but damn... i paid alot

Never driven a car with steering quickener, although I'd like to get a feel for it....

Make sure they sold you a real hicas rack and not a refurbed stock one. A lot of shops sell refurbed stock ones as Hicas because they cannot tell the difference. I know for a fact that Hicas racks are rare and most rebuilders have them on their books but when you order one its a stock rack. Look at your Hicas rack there will be different casting numbers vs the non hicas rack. If the refurb has the same casting numbers its a hicas otherwise its not.

On topic, Luke this is interesting but I am not sure how many people are going to want to spend the cash for the setup your thinking of doing.

singlecamslam · 06-04-2008, 12:23 PM

i would be interested in manual steering, loved it on my corolla and only cost be 220 brand new with inner tie rods.

a_ahmed · 06-04-2008, 01:32 PM

Well it was from fr sport... they have a good reputation no? I mean there is a 200$ difference between the hicas and non hicas refurb/new sale on their site.. so wtf... that would be a big blow to their customer service/quality if they were doing that... I can't verify for a long time as I still have to take apart my car... I'm just on project pause right now, 240 sitting/sleeping...

*GSXRJJordan* · 06-12-2008, 03:42 AM

Dave's absolutely right, the HICAS racks are rare as f*ck.

I run no P/s, and don't mind the parking effort and what not... I've got pretty big forearms lol. If we could get a good rack (fits correctly, strong, etc) with a quicker ratio, I wouldn't mind payin a couple hundred for it. I know the racks themselves are not that expensive...

Then again, P/s is nice, and cheaper. Just a pain in the ass/etc to get a non-working system together and working.

*GSXRJJordan* · 06-25-2008, 01:58 PM

Luke what's the deal with these? My steering rack is taking a dump, and I'm not sure I want it rebuilt if you're gonna come out with 'da new steering hotness'.

blu808 · 07-27-2008, 03:52 AM

Working the numbers man. Looks like no one wants to eliminate a complete hydro system from their car.

i would jump at the chance for the weight savings, heat savings, engine bay space savings, and possibility of breakage.

The more shit you have the more shit there is to break.

I will let ya know.

Might just have to use a quick steer gearbox.

*slothonaleash* · 07-27-2008, 12:03 PM

I am DONE messing around with trying to get ps to work....

I would LOVE to see a completely manual rack go into production for cheap, cause pushing all that fluid around is not always easy for someone of my muscular abilities.

I'm also poor.

tracks13 · 07-27-2008, 02:23 PM

I'd be interested in this as well. IF anything happens.

Also someone said hicas racks are rare but frsport sells rebuilt ones even though it is about 500.

*Ds14* · 07-29-2008, 09:53 PM

interested. ps is busted and i'd rather go manual anyway.

-deks

singlecamslam · 07-29-2008, 10:11 PM

My rack and pinion actually just took a dump on me, so i would love for this to happen.

RurouniMidnight · 08-15-2008, 04:54 PM

Yes id be down to my rack has been busted up and leaky for a while and i don't feel like getting a refurbed one right now and less stuff to deal with is always good.

0100 · 08-17-2008, 03:57 AM

Any word on this? I would buy one if under $300.

*LongGrain* · 08-17-2008, 03:48 PM

sounds like a cool idea

i would definitely have to drive one first, ive driven my friends s13 without power steering, and my own when i had to remove my PS belt, i absolutely hated it, especially with a 330mm wheel. i couldnt even imagine drifting like that.

manual one should be better though

*alexander500* · 08-29-2008, 10:42 PM

I was jocking hard to get the group buy to go through, but it didn't happen. I really want/need one of these. I have been rocking a drained and pluged power rack for a while and have really learned to like it. It did not take long to get used to and it is not impossible to drift with manual steeing.

WISH ONE · 08-30-2008, 05:42 PM

id be down also. im sick of leaking ps fluid all over from busted lines.

*tt99ol* · 09-01-2008, 12:47 AM

i would like it for $300 or less
or even a little more if it adds alot of steering angle
like the powered by max spindle mod
I'm going to get that and thats $400
unless i can get the same angle and less weight for $300
it sounds like a good idea though, and throw in some solid rack bushings too
or just machine the rack to bolt right in without bushings at all

JRas · 09-18-2008, 01:02 AM

just sell refurbished HICAS racks

*sac* · 09-23-2008, 01:11 AM

HELL YA i would!!

But i want your ls14 turbo kit first..

*s14wannab* · 10-10-2008, 04:07 PM

i would purchase it in a hearbeat.

*hotlavaflow* · 10-11-2008, 11:11 AM

What's going on with this?

*GSXRJJordan* · 11-01-2008, 01:16 AM

Absolutely nothing. I think Luke gave up on it :/

*hotlavaflow* · 11-01-2008, 05:51 AM

Awww that sucks I need one of these.

*sillyvia13* · 11-01-2008, 08:47 AM

hicas rack ftw

View Poll Results: Would you purchase a quick ratio manual steering rack?
Hell yea. If its around $300 or less	76	59.38%
No. why bother?	8	6.25%
I want one even if its around $500	9	7.03%
I would rather have power steering.	35	27.34%
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06-02-2008, 06:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SPACE Age: 25 Posts: 4,271 Trader Rating: (0)	Quick ratio manual steering racks. Who wants them? Trying to gauge interest. Would you zilvians be interested in quick ratio steering racks? Benefits: Fast correction Reduced steering imput deletion of entire power steering system 28 lbs savings. no core charge different travel rates (increased steering angle) free up power (no ps belt) one less thing to leak Detriments: hard to turn when stopped would be twitchy for everyday driving (sens steering input) cost? So let me know if you guys would be interested. Thanks. Luke __________________ Weld Locd LSD sale. Luke's new shop. http://www.manjiparts.com/images/121...223923389.jpeg I do affordable Ls1/ Sr20det/ Rb/ and other swaps. S13 Sr swaps starting at just $700 labor. Pm me. Thanks.

06-02-2008, 06:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
steve_o1989 GREASE IT! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Regina, sk Age: 19 Posts: 434 Trader Rating: (2)	There was a group buy a while back to get a batch of these made up. If I remember correctly though, those ones would need a spacer made up because the rack was not as big in diameter as the original. I don't know if the group buy even went through. It would be cool if someone stocked a manual steering rack for the S chassis. __________________ 1997 240sx 1998 Frontier SE 1990 240sx Coupe - Sold 1992 Talon Tsi - Sold

06-02-2008, 07:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
90hatchie is that a s14? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: westchester county ny Age: 20 Posts: 673 Trader Rating: (0)	i never seen any over 300 bucks.... http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/2030...Quickener.html reccomended by the guys at ziptied __________________ Last edited by 90hatchie; 06-03-2008 at 12:25 AM.

06-03-2008, 03:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SPACE Age: 25 Posts: 4,271 Trader Rating: (0)	Yea. We used one of these on the jasper supra. Seemed to work well. http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/7732...Quickener.html __________________ Weld Locd LSD sale. Luke's new shop. http://www.manjiparts.com/images/121...223923389.jpeg I do affordable Ls1/ Sr20det/ Rb/ and other swaps. S13 Sr swaps starting at just $700 labor. Pm me. Thanks.

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06-04-2008, 04:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
downshift_sideways In time-out for misbehaving. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Leandro,CA. . . . . [The REAL Bay Area] Age: 22 Posts: 5,413 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways	Do you have a model / test car? if you would let me drive it, I'll get one if I like the feeling. (just DD drive is what I mean.)

06-04-2008, 07:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
a_ahmed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 751 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: a_ahmed	I wish I could try one of these steering quickeners.. I just bought a refurbished/new hicas rack from frsport........ i already have a hicas rack but its 20 years old haha.. so time for a change... but damn... i paid alot Never driven a car with steering quickener, although I'd like to get a feel for it....

06-04-2008, 07:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
JohnD1079 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2007 Location: Philla Area Age: 19 Posts: 50 Trader Rating: (0)	I would be interested. Doesnt the 300zx rack have quicker ratios?

06-04-2008, 12:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
singlecamslam Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 470 Trader Rating: (0)	i would be interested in manual steering, loved it on my corolla and only cost be 220 brand new with inner tie rods. __________________ Now i need a SR redtop coilpack cover!!

06-04-2008, 01:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
a_ahmed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 751 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: a_ahmed	Well it was from fr sport... they have a good reputation no? I mean there is a 200$ difference between the hicas and non hicas refurb/new sale on their site.. so wtf... that would be a big blow to their customer service/quality if they were doing that... I can't verify for a long time as I still have to take apart my car... I'm just on project pause right now, 240 sitting/sleeping...

06-12-2008, 03:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
GSXRJJordan [JEFE S14] Join Date: May 2006 Location: Alh@mbra, socal Posts: 3,608 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan	Dave's absolutely right, the HICAS racks are rare as fck. I run no P/s, and don't mind the parking effort and what not... I've got pretty big forearms lol. If we could get a good rack (fits correctly, strong, etc) with a quicker ratio, I wouldn't mind payin a couple hundred for it. I know the racks themselves are not that expensive... Then again, P/s is nice, and cheaper. Just a pain in the ass/etc to get a non-working system together and working. __________________ ~ PM me about [heim joints] if you want the good stuff for your cheap/ebay arms ~* *Revolution* Review Thread WTB: S14 Zenki center console & Pass Window Switch - PM me!

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GSXRJJordan [JEFE S14] Join Date: May 2006 Location: Alh@mbra, socal Posts: 3,608 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan	Luke what's the deal with these? My steering rack is taking a dump, and I'm not sure I want it rebuilt if you're gonna come out with 'da new steering hotness'. __________________ ~ PM me about [heim joints] if you want the good stuff for your cheap/ebay arms ~ *Revolution* Review Thread WTB: S14 Zenki center console & Pass Window Switch - PM me!

07-27-2008, 03:52 AM	#13 (permalink)
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SPACE Age: 25 Posts: 4,271 Trader Rating: (0)	Working the numbers man. Looks like no one wants to eliminate a complete hydro system from their car. i would jump at the chance for the weight savings, heat savings, engine bay space savings, and possibility of breakage. The more shit you have the more shit there is to break. I will let ya know. Might just have to use a quick steer gearbox. __________________ Weld Locd LSD sale. Luke's new shop. http://www.manjiparts.com/images/121...223923389.jpeg I do affordable Ls1/ Sr20det/ Rb/ and other swaps. S13 Sr swaps starting at just $700 labor. Pm me. Thanks.

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slothonaleash Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 16 Posts: 465 Trader Rating: (2)	I am DONE messing around with trying to get ps to work.... I would LOVE to see a completely manual rack go into production for cheap, cause pushing all that fluid around is not always easy for someone of my muscular abilities. I'm also poor.

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sac Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The SLC, Utah Age: 23 Posts: 586 Trader Rating: (3)	HELL YA i would!! But i want your ls14 turbo kit first.. __________________ 95Kouki s14 doin LS2 swap! LOOKIN FOR KOGNITION CARBON SUNROOF DELETE PANNEL FOR S14 Last edited by sac; 10-12-2008 at 09:36 AM.

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tracks13 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 23 Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0)	I'd be interested in this as well. IF anything happens. Also someone said hicas racks are rare but frsport sells rebuilt ones even though it is about 500.

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Ds14 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 305 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0)	interested. ps is busted and i'd rather go manual anyway. -deks

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singlecamslam Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 470 Trader Rating: (0)	My rack and pinion actually just took a dump on me, so i would love for this to happen. __________________ Now i need a SR redtop coilpack cover!!

08-15-2008, 04:54 PM	#18 (permalink)
RurouniMidnight Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston TX Age: 25 Posts: 173 Trader Rating: (0)	Yes id be down to my rack has been busted up and leaky for a while and i don't feel like getting a refurbed one right now and less stuff to deal with is always good. __________________

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0100 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New England Posts: 959 Trader Rating: (3)	Any word on this? I would buy one if under $300. __________________ TougeHero.com l SilviaV8.com

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LongGrain Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WI Posts: 2,055 Trader Rating: (2)	sounds like a cool idea i would definitely have to drive one first, ive driven my friends s13 without power steering, and my own when i had to remove my PS belt, i absolutely hated it, especially with a 330mm wheel. i couldnt even imagine drifting like that. manual one should be better though __________________

08-29-2008, 10:42 PM	#21 (permalink)
alexander500 A$$pennies Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 227 Trader Rating: (2)	I was jocking hard to get the group buy to go through, but it didn't happen. I really want/need one of these. I have been rocking a drained and pluged power rack for a while and have really learned to like it. It did not take long to get used to and it is not impossible to drift with manual steeing.

08-30-2008, 05:42 PM	#22 (permalink)
WISH ONE Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Age: 21 Posts: 711 Trader Rating: (0)	id be down also. im sick of leaking ps fluid all over from busted lines. __________________ Rb-Performance.net

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tt99ol Go Forth And DIE!!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: quartz hill CA Age: 21 Posts: 426 Trader Rating: (0)	i would like it for $300 or less or even a little more if it adds alot of steering angle like the powered by max spindle mod I'm going to get that and thats $400 unless i can get the same angle and less weight for $300 it sounds like a good idea though, and throw in some solid rack bushings too or just machine the rack to bolt right in without bushings at all __________________ icaperfomance.com get some

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11-01-2008, 05:51 AM	#29 (permalink)
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11-01-2008, 08:47 AM	#30 (permalink)
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