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240racr · 03-19-2009, 04:55 PM

Not trying to be a pest...but is there any word? I really need a rack. I would love to get one of these, but if this is not going anywhere I need to know. I can't keep driving my car with the steering rack messed up.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

Bigsyke · 03-21-2009, 12:38 AM

This isnt to bash anyones idea's, but if you truely de-power a rack, your not removing all seals, and I wouldnt say its bad for the rack. The only wear on the rack itself is the gear, and the gear coupler which connects the gear to the spline.

If you remove the center oil seal on the pinion shaft, you still have 2 others. There is still little to no drag on the shaft because of the remaining seals, and since the center seal/ring is gone there is no pressure in the rack.

Once the rack is depowered and packed with grease, you now have a direct connection to the wheels, there is nothing physically more you can do for more assited power. The only way to lighten the load, and make it easier to turn after you depowered the rack is to make a longer gear ratio [or big fucking steering wheel]. A quicker gear ratio could snap the coupler. So why not just depower the rack? no $300 part is going to make it easier to turn via manual steering.

DriftDamage · 04-03-2009, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsyke

This isnt to bash anyones idea's, but if you truely de-power a rack, your not removing all seals, and I wouldnt say its bad for the rack. The only wear on the rack itself is the gear, and the gear coupler which connects the gear to the spline.

If you remove the center oil seal on the pinion shaft, you still have 2 others. There is still little to no drag on the shaft because of the remaining seals, and since the center seal/ring is gone there is no pressure in the rack.

Once the rack is depowered and packed with grease, you now have a direct connection to the wheels, there is nothing physically more you can do for more assited power. The only way to lighten the load, and make it easier to turn after you depowered the rack is to make a longer gear ratio [or big fucking steering wheel]. A quicker gear ratio could snap the coupler. So why not just depower the rack? no $300 part is going to make it easier to turn via manual steering.

I demand a write up!!

I have been waiting for a manual rack but no dice. I am going through a quart of fluid a month and its not even a year old! Damn place I bought it from went out of business... i wonder why now....

Ima have to settle for another rack or do this thing of which you speak of...

Rogue240sx · 04-09-2009, 09:46 PM

Any progress on this? I've been fighting my PS pump since day one with this car. Steering has a really inconsistent feel especially when cold. In short I need a manual rack. Also what's the plan for the water pump belt for when the PS pump gets removed?

Banegraphix · 04-09-2009, 10:07 PM

Yea im lookin to ditch my PS as well and really would like to give this a shot

NightfireFC3S · 04-10-2009, 06:43 PM

Bump.

Bumpity.

Otto347 · 04-17-2009, 02:33 PM

Look here

At last, depowered the rack.

Somnambulist · 04-18-2009, 12:30 AM

Want. Progress. Report.

Pwease?

ZenkiCam · 04-19-2009, 03:45 PM

guys, i am going to do a manual steering rack conversion, no i am not into silly drifting, so spare me. i will definitely try to get a comprehensive write up going!

TurboSE · 04-20-2009, 10:28 AM

Any info yet, or is this still a Unicorn?

hotlavaflow · 04-20-2009, 12:39 PM

I vote unicorm but I'm still hoping there'll be some gold at the end of this rainbow

murda-c · 04-20-2009, 12:41 PM

someone get a quick ratio power steering rack built for meh.

AlexTheGreat00 · 04-27-2009, 02:24 AM

I'd definately buy one. My rack is leaky and my boots are both torn

Rogue240sx · 04-27-2009, 05:29 AM

We demand answers

xs240 · 04-27-2009, 12:53 PM

i think this is totally dead.

Why dont u guys get a steering quickener, wouldnt that essentially be the exact same thing. Please answer. Never understood steering quickeners...

Rogue240sx · 04-27-2009, 09:01 PM

That doesn't solve the problem of getting rid of the power steering.
The reason this says quick ratio is because manual rack usually have a slower ratio than the powered racks to decrease steering effort. I'd rather have the same lock to lock as my power steering rack without all the power shit clogging my under hood area.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xs240

i think this is totally dead.

Why dont u guys get a steering quickener, wouldnt that essentially be the exact same thing. Please answer. Never understood steering quickeners...

Bigsyke · 05-05-2009, 11:12 PM

ive already made a writeup. Im still perfectly happy with this setup to this day.

Again, simple physics, a custom rack would only entale longer ratio gearing. Depower the rack with some bad ass grease and call it a day. I even took the extra steps to put some stainless allen bolts to plug the holes.

the a3k · 05-26-2012, 08:42 PM

bringing this back from the dead lol

Matej · 05-28-2012, 06:16 PM

Still would buy one.

the a3k · 02-26-2013, 04:34 PM

i want one too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

View Poll Results: Would you purchase a quick ratio manual steering rack?
Hell yea. If its around $300 or less	115	63.54%
No. why bother?	10	5.52%
I want one even if its around $500	11	6.08%
I would rather have power steering.	45	24.86%
Voters: 181. You may not vote on this poll

03-19-2009, 04:55 PM	#91
240racr Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hillsboro, OR Age: 37 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not trying to be a pest...but is there any word? I really need a rack. I would love to get one of these, but if this is not going anywhere I need to know. I can't keep driving my car with the steering rack messed up. Thanks for any info you can provide. __________________ Precision T3/T4, 65lb injectors, z32 brakes, AEM EMS, 360WHP

04-09-2009, 09:46 PM	#94
Rogue240sx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Springfield, MA Age: 31 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: Rogue240sx Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Any progress on this? I've been fighting my PS pump since day one with this car. Steering has a really inconsistent feel especially when cold. In short I need a manual rack. Also what's the plan for the water pump belt for when the PS pump gets removed? __________________ There's not enough hours in the day.

04-20-2009, 10:28 AM	#100
TurboSE Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hanover Pa Posts: 669 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Any info yet, or is this still a Unicorn? __________________ WTB: S14 Subframe

04-20-2009, 12:39 PM	#101
hotlavaflow Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: BKLYN NYC Posts: 1,142 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I vote unicorm but I'm still hoping there'll be some gold at the end of this rainbow __________________

03-21-2009, 12:38 AM	#92
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 28 Posts: 1,335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This isnt to bash anyones idea's, but if you truely de-power a rack, your not removing all seals, and I wouldnt say its bad for the rack. The only wear on the rack itself is the gear, and the gear coupler which connects the gear to the spline. If you remove the center oil seal on the pinion shaft, you still have 2 others. There is still little to no drag on the shaft because of the remaining seals, and since the center seal/ring is gone there is no pressure in the rack. Once the rack is depowered and packed with grease, you now have a direct connection to the wheels, there is nothing physically more you can do for more assited power. The only way to lighten the load, and make it easier to turn after you depowered the rack is to make a longer gear ratio [or big fucking steering wheel]. A quicker gear ratio could snap the coupler. So why not just depower the rack? no $300 part is going to make it easier to turn via manual steering.

04-09-2009, 10:07 PM	#95
Banegraphix Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tampa Age: 31 Posts: 111 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yea im lookin to ditch my PS as well and really would like to give this a shot

04-10-2009, 06:43 PM	#96
NightfireFC3S Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Mexico Age: 29 Posts: 112 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Bump. Bumpity.

04-18-2009, 12:30 AM	#98
Somnambulist Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 596 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Want. Progress. Report. Pwease?

04-19-2009, 03:45 PM	#99
ZenkiCam Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta Georgia Posts: 933 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	guys, i am going to do a manual steering rack conversion, no i am not into silly drifting, so spare me. i will definitely try to get a comprehensive write up going!

04-20-2009, 12:41 PM	#102
murda-c Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery County, MD Age: 25 Posts: 3,176 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	someone get a quick ratio power steering rack built for meh. __________________

04-27-2009, 02:24 AM	#103
AlexTheGreat00 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gainesville, FL Age: 26 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'd definately buy one. My rack is leaky and my boots are both torn

04-27-2009, 05:29 AM	#104
Rogue240sx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Springfield, MA Age: 31 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: Rogue240sx Feedback Score: 8 reviews	We demand answers __________________ There's not enough hours in the day.

04-27-2009, 12:53 PM	#105
xs240 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: . Posts: 436 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i think this is totally dead. Why dont u guys get a steering quickener, wouldnt that essentially be the exact same thing. Please answer. Never understood steering quickeners...

05-05-2009, 11:12 PM	#107
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 28 Posts: 1,335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive already made a writeup. Im still perfectly happy with this setup to this day. Again, simple physics, a custom rack would only entale longer ratio gearing. Depower the rack with some bad ass grease and call it a day. I even took the extra steps to put some stainless allen bolts to plug the holes.

05-26-2012, 08:42 PM	#108
the a3k Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 798 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	bringing this back from the dead lol __________________ BUY MY STUFF

05-28-2012, 06:16 PM	#109
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kansas City Age: 25 Posts: 7,855 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	Still would buy one. __________________ *Irony.cc*

02-26-2013, 04:34 PM	#110
the a3k Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 798 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	i want one too!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ BUY MY STUFF

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