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***S14DB*** · 12-20-2007, 06:03 PM

I was going to use my Knockoff B&M off my KA but I just realized the shifter on my SR is a short throw. The only old thing is that the BM is straight up in Neutral while the JDM one is angled back. When it's in 3rd it looks like it's in Neutral. The throw lengths are almost the same.

I dunno which would be more comfortable for Street driving with light Drag/autox.

B&M Knockoff in Neutral:

JDM in Neutral:

usdm180sx · 12-20-2007, 06:16 PM

Try them both out?

***S14DB*** · 12-20-2007, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usdm180sx

Try them both out?

My knuckles say no...

***PHLIP*** · 12-20-2007, 07:19 PM

I know that your B&M knockoff is the same as the one I have, which was suggested to me by who has been one of the most elitist assholes in the history of my circle of friends, so I say use that and sell the unknown "as-is."

*murda-c* · 12-20-2007, 08:52 PM

is the b&m knockoff as good as the real thing? i was thinking about trying one.

M4Rl0N · 12-21-2007, 10:20 PM

i drove a s13 with a ebay short shifter and i felt the diffrence
i would say knockoff
but be prepaired for some anoying vibratrion......

*revat619* · 12-22-2007, 08:13 PM

i hate b&m shifters.

So this is the first and last time you'll ever see me type the following statement:

Go with the knock off.

Rob's S14 · 12-24-2007, 01:30 AM

I would say B&M knockoff. I have no experience with it, but it looks like it's in better condition.

sillyvia13 · 01-02-2008, 02:25 PM

B&M vibrate like a mofo too!
knock off vibrate like a mofo MORE!
stock , no issues....
I RUN A STOCK! usdm shifta!
I have long arms no need for short throw...lol...

*ALEXTHESUS*PECT* · 01-02-2008, 02:40 PM

short thow would be my choice.

kazaskatans13 · 01-02-2008, 09:37 PM

^^They both have a shorter throw. They both will probably vibrate somewhat also. But i think the one that is angled back more would be nicer.

*S13Boosts* · 01-02-2008, 09:57 PM

try the knockoff

kevtrinh · 01-02-2008, 11:24 PM

maybe the jdm one is just on backwards....try taking it out and reversing it.

DOOK · 01-03-2008, 02:11 PM

from the angles shown in neutral your arm length would come into play. If you have longer arms, go with the B&M knockoff, if you have shorter arms go with the JDM.

powersteeringless180sx · 01-08-2008, 09:20 PM

i'd go w/ the jdm one since it sits closer to towards you.

alindeman1989 · 01-13-2008, 06:22 PM

i would use the jdm one

*!Zar!* · 01-14-2008, 02:58 PM

Go with the unknown jdm and give me the b&m.

*bloodangels13* · 01-15-2008, 04:19 PM

based on the pics if the knockoff is exactly like the real b&m or even close the shifter is installed in the base plate backwards...

naed240sx · 01-17-2008, 09:57 AM

That knockoff shifter was put together backwards. Take it apart and turn the handle around. This is a very common problem. It's a good shifter though. I rebuilt mine just to be safe before use, and used locktite on everything. It's going on around 25k+ miles of hard driving, no issues whatsoever. Also make sure to get a new pivot cup while the shifter is off the tranny.

View Poll Results: Unknown JDM or B&M Knockoff
B&M Knockoff	34	61.82%
JDM	21	38.18%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

12-20-2007, 06:03 PM	#1
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 14,322 Trader Rating: (1)	Which shifter to use? I was going to use my Knockoff B&M off my KA but I just realized the shifter on my SR is a short throw. The only old thing is that the BM is straight up in Neutral while the JDM one is angled back. When it's in 3rd it looks like it's in Neutral. The throw lengths are almost the same. I dunno which would be more comfortable for Street driving with light Drag/autox. B&M Knockoff in Neutral: JDM in Neutral: __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact.

12-20-2007, 06:16 PM	#2
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562/310/626/323/213/818 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx	Try them both out? __________________ -Norm! http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../koukisig2.jpg

12-21-2007, 10:20 PM	#6
M4Rl0N Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: FRiSC0--->PiTTSBURG Posts: 225 Trader Rating: (0)	i drove a s13 with a ebay short shifter and i felt the diffrence i would say knockoff but be prepaired for some anoying vibratrion...... __________________ 2DAY I LiVED 2DiE AN0THER DAY!

12-22-2007, 08:13 PM	#7
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,425 Trader Rating: (3)	i hate b&m shifters. So this is the first and last time you'll ever see me type the following statement: Go with the knock off. __________________ www.pandagarage.com www.vertex-usa.com www.poweredbymax.net

12-20-2007, 08:52 PM	#5
murda-c Has a Premium Member. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: deep inside...MoCo, MD Age: 21 Posts: 2,444 Trader Rating: (0)	is the b&m knockoff as good as the real thing? i was thinking about trying one.

12-24-2007, 01:30 AM	#8
Rob's S14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Age: 28 Posts: 1,008 Trader Rating: (0)	I would say B&M knockoff. I have no experience with it, but it looks like it's in better condition.

01-02-2008, 02:25 PM	#9
sillyvia13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: nh Posts: 1,656 Trader Rating: (1)	B&M vibrate like a mofo too! knock off vibrate like a mofo MORE! stock , no issues.... I RUN A STOCK! usdm shifta! I have long arms no need for short throw...lol...

01-02-2008, 02:40 PM	#10
ALEXTHESUSPECT* Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Soul cal!! Age: 31 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: ALEXTHESUS*PECT	short thow would be my choice. __________________ *TEAM SUSPECT** 19x9 19x11 VIP Y33 http://jordaninnovations.com/

01-02-2008, 09:37 PM	#11
kazaskatans13 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: VA beyotch Age: 29 Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	^^They both have a shorter throw. They both will probably vibrate somewhat also. But i think the one that is angled back more would be nicer.

01-02-2008, 09:57 PM	#12
S13Boosts _MOST LIFTED* Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: LBCALI Posts: 5,099 Trader Rating: (12)	try the knockoff

01-02-2008, 11:24 PM	#13
kevtrinh Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Richmond,VA Posts: 371 Trader Rating: (0)	maybe the jdm one is just on backwards....try taking it out and reversing it.

01-03-2008, 02:11 PM	#14
DOOK Post Whore! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Land of Milk and Cookies Age: 27 Posts: 7,594 Trader Rating: (3)	from the angles shown in neutral your arm length would come into play. If you have longer arms, go with the B&M knockoff, if you have shorter arms go with the JDM. __________________ <------ Grumpy Old Asshole MY REVIEW THREAD: Ltdnismoracer4=DOOK http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...ltdnismoracer4

01-08-2008, 09:20 PM	#15
powersteeringless180sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: SoCal (Orange County) Age: 28 Posts: 869 Trader Rating: (1)	i'd go w/ the jdm one since it sits closer to towards you.

01-13-2008, 06:22 PM	#16
alindeman1989 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Newark/bayarea,Ca Age: 20 Posts: 814 Trader Rating: (0)	i would use the jdm one

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01-14-2008, 02:58 PM	#17
!Zar! Ezel verkrachtende schijteter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Milf Valley Posts: 9,449 Trader Rating: (2)	Go with the unknown jdm and give me the b&m. __________________ -=Mel=-

01-17-2008, 09:57 AM	#19
naed240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Austin,Texas Posts: 203 Trader Rating: (0)	That knockoff shifter was put together backwards. Take it apart and turn the handle around. This is a very common problem. It's a good shifter though. I rebuilt mine just to be safe before use, and used locktite on everything. It's going on around 25k+ miles of hard driving, no issues whatsoever. Also make sure to get a new pivot cup while the shifter is off the tranny.

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