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itwillboost · 12-19-2010, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SuicidnS13

Yes it definately does what it says it will do. Its pushes water cells into the muscles therefore giving you quick strength and size. How ever it doea not change your bodies ability to create muscle or redevelop it. It is an expensive and bloaty temporary motivational drug. Which makes me super sleepy lol. Google does creatine make you sleepy.... What kind of motivation is that?

You need to do more research than creatine has many undisputable benefits. It does affect you lifts and recovery time, has well as with muscle building. In the muscle shaping process it's primarly visual gains are through water entering the muscles, but it's physical gains are very real.

itwillboost · 12-20-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HyperTek

my own personal goal is to perhaps cut and lean out til abs appear, than start bulking up/more calories from there, does that sound realistic?

Thats very realistic, you just need to be aware of the work and commitment it takes. Just don't worry about cutting to hardcore, instead get a good 3x a week ab workout.

s13dan · 12-20-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by itwillboost

You need to do more research than creatine has many undisputable benefits. It does affect you lifts and recovery time, has well as with muscle building. In the muscle shaping process it's primarly visual gains are through water entering the muscles, but it's physical gains are very real.

Church... From my research the only two supplements to guarantee positive results with minimum negative side effects are quality proteins and creatine. Period.

*revat619* · 12-20-2010, 02:34 AM

We're beating a dead horse with this creatine banter. Seriously, wtf?

ESmorz · 12-20-2010, 03:58 AM

Hey guys.

Just starting to work out, think I should use creatine?

*revat619* · 12-20-2010, 04:05 AM

Yes.

Make others jealous with your sweet rip and maximum pump. And in only 8 weeks, vaginas will be desperately campaigning to get in your life.

SuicidnS13 · 12-20-2010, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by revat619

Yes.

Make others jealous with your sweet rip and maximum pump. And in only 8 weeks, vaginas will be desperately campaigning to get in your life.

FUCKING BOOKWORTHY.... The man right here!

I to am a cpt and a nutritionalist. Its a personal opinion backed by many ifbb pros i also train with that creatine is a waste of money. In the end it comes down to just that a personal opinion. The problem with supplement research is that there really is none. There is no studies of long term health affects on most dietary supps. Just a bunch of meat heads reading a few chemistry books barely passing medschool while drunk every day. They go out and start some new supp company and say that this peptide does this.... Its scientificly proven.... Lol

I wont deny it does work. But dbol works better......

s13dan · 12-20-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by revat619

We're beating a dead horse with this creatine banter. Seriously, wtf?

Truth. Lets start something new.

Um, good workouts for a broader chest? My chest is weak, I want squares.
I do military press and decline. Also I do incline and flat dumbbell press. I don't want man boobs so I try to avoid doing to much flat bench.

I really want to look like Edword Norton from American History X.
Minus the haircut, nazi tats and hatred for anything that isn't white protestant. lol

redline racer510 · 12-20-2010, 05:18 PM

what advice can you give people that want to start working out and have no idea where to start like me

SuicidnS13 · 12-20-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by redline racer510

what advice can you give people that want to start working out and have no idea where to start like me

Join bodybuilding.com and a large populated gym where lots of meatheads like me hang out at and are always willing to teach noobs. Then keep on reading and training.... In a few years it will pay its self off.

itwillboost · 12-20-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by redline racer510

what advice can you give people that want to start working out and have no idea where to start like me

Go to a local gym and observe, remember that diet and sleep are key, and ask questions. I can tell you this is what I do, I went to school for this I live this and very few people on a car forum will be able to give accurate information. Joining a proper forum like mentioned above is a good idea. Also remember what branch warren does and how he does it, doesn't make it the correct way.( He is just my favorite example)

SuicidnS13 · 12-21-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by itwillboost

Go to a local gym and observe, remember that diet and sleep are key, and ask questions. I can tell you this is what I do, I went to school for this I live this and very few people on a car forum will be able to give accurate information. Joining a proper forum like mentioned above is a good idea. Also remember what branch warren does and how he does it, doesn't make it the correct way.( He is just my favorite example)

+1

Proper form for someone will be totally different for your body type. You need to learn the mind muscle connection as well as how your body reacts to certain excersices. But really get off the car boards for a few months and read up on bb.com as a good start. Join a gym and have fun.

s13dan · 12-22-2010, 12:38 AM

Just got back from the gym. I tried the pyramid sets and I gatta say I like it. I maxed out then got to do some fuck you" sets. That's what I'm calling them anyway. I got hurt.

Only thing is that these type of sets will only work for people that workout one part of the body a day, as it really tires you. I like it and might start doing it all the time. I will find out tomorrow just how well I did, when I see how sore I am.

SyCK · 12-22-2010, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by redline racer510

what advice can you give people that want to start working out and have no idea where to start like me

Buy this book - Amazon.com: Strength Training Anatomy-3rd Edition (Sports Anatomy) (9780736092265): Frederic Delavier: Books

What are your goals, get big or cut up?

HyperTek · 01-01-2011, 11:21 PM

havent worked out during the holidays.. Ill get back on it though.

WISH ONE · 01-02-2011, 02:40 PM

I'm still suffering from a leg workout I dd on Wednesday, I pushed a bit too hard.

itwillboost · 01-02-2011, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WISH ONE

I'm still suffering from a leg workout I dd on Wednesday, I pushed a bit too hard.

Lol that and when I go too hard on back day kills me.

s13dan · 01-02-2011, 10:20 PM

Dead lifts kill me. I try to do them the day before I have a day off from work.

Working with sore legs and back sucks ass.

WISH ONE · 01-03-2011, 02:16 PM

I like being sore, feels good lol... but not like i felt after that workout, that was beyond sore.
it hurt to move, sit, lie down, walk you name it on the inside of my thighs and quads.

*revat619* · 01-03-2011, 04:40 PM

Leg days are the best! My personal favorite.

Irresistible · 01-03-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by revat619

Leg days are the best! My personal favorite.

I absolutely hate leg days. Personally I like chest and tricep day.

SuicidnS13 · 01-03-2011, 05:40 PM

I love being sore and all pumped up during the week.

s13dan · 01-03-2011, 08:49 PM

LOL I'm not the only one that like to be sore,? good to hear. I usually enjoy it, except when it is excessive. Like when I worked in a warehouse. We stocked International truck and bus parts. I couldn't get too sore it would effect my speed at work!

Hopefully I will be getting a customer service job I'm interviewing for, then I'll have more energy and can get REALLY hurt.

SuicidnS13 · 01-03-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by s13dan

LOL I'm not the only one that like to be sore,? good to hear. I usually enjoy it, except when it is excessive. Like when I worked in a warehouse. We stocked International truck and bus parts. I couldn't get too sore it would effect my speed at work!

Hopefully I will be getting a customer service job I'm interviewing for, then I'll have more energy and can get REALLY hurt.

Funny story about pain affecting work-

First off I do construction which is very physically taxing all day. One day my foreman said, "Hey Drew we could really use your muscles over here!!!"

I replied back Jokingly,"Shit my work out starts at the gym, not here" LOL

My boss was like " So those are just SHOW MUSCLES huh???"

"Yup... They show me alot alright. They show me how much more action I get than you, show me how much better I look than you, they show me alot!!! "

That was the last time they asked me to do some dirt work that included breaking my back. Not that Im lazy but because a guy looks like he can lift it doesnt mean he should. My wife and I are just disgusted by overweight people so we train pretty hard.

Dont you guys hate the typical questions like: So how much do you bench, curl, dead lift... ect.... Or the whole: You must train like 5 days a week or more.

I just reply with no, not really, I was just gifted with good genetics. Or I bench just over 130lbs LOL. Or my favorite, I just train for Looks!!!

*revat619* · 01-03-2011, 10:39 PM

^^^ SO TRUE.

OMG I can't stand the "how much do you bench?" question. So irritating. People are so misguided. Real strength has nothing to do with how much you bench or whatever.....or even size for that matter. I get questions like this ALL the time when i work out at 24.

When will they learn?!?!

Bubbles · 01-04-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SuicidnS13

"Yup... They show me alot alright. They show me how much more action I get than you

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My wife

Dude, at this point your build has no effect on how much action you get.

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I just train for Looks!!!

I lift for aesthetics. 100%

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Originally Posted by revat619

OMG I can't stand the "how much do you bench?" question. So irritating. People are so misguided. Real strength has nothing to do with how much you bench or whatever.....or even size for that matter.

One guy benches 130 and the other 250, that 250 dude will be an animal compared to 130.

SuicidnS13 · 01-04-2011, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

Dude, at this point your build has no effect on how much action you get.

I lift for aesthetics. 100%

One guy benches 130 and the other 250, that 250 dude will be an animal compared to 130.

Not true at all. I know alot of powerlifters at my gym who bench hundreds of pounds over my 305 max flat press. But in the end of the day they still look like fat ass slobs. Heck i know pro's who dont even curl heavier than 45's ever.

Me, personally I train for a symetrical look. I could easily go on growth and insulin and become an animal but at my peak of 201lbs and 6% at 5'7" just wasnt working out for me. (12 month long ans heavy cycle of more than a few compounds) These days I enjoy cruising around 170-180 and 10% as its easy to maintain and I dont look like a meathead.

WISH ONE · 01-04-2011, 09:53 AM

Soooo true! I hate the "how much do you bench?" with a passion.
I recently reconnected with an old buddy from school and he states he has working out for 2 years or so, so I told him "cool! me too, I started getting into it this October" and then... he asks, "so how much are you benching ?"
I told him I didnt know and he looked at me like his brain was going to explode.

s13dan · 01-04-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WISH ONE

Soooo true! I hate the "how much do you bench?" with a passion.
I recently reconnected with an old buddy from school and he states he has working out for 2 years or so, so I told him "cool! me too, I started getting into it this October" and then... he asks, "so how much are you benching ?"
I told him I didnt know and he looked at me like his brain was going to explode.

LOL I know what you mean. Some dudes really want to know and its the only thing they seem to use to judge how strong the are. I always reply by just saying "not very much." Its the answer they most likely want to hear.

When I get to my body weight in sets (or at least roughly that) I will be done pushing that venue of my workout.

Or for the real athletes you could reply I don't know but I can run a mile in seven minutes...

WISH ONE · 01-04-2011, 02:40 PM

I feel you, its extremely annoying.
I can rep 205lbs in sets of 8-10 and although its only 20lbs over my weight at the moment, I am more than satisfied and have no need to push my max or whatevr it may be.

12-20-2010, 02:34 AM	#94
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,429 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	We're beating a dead horse with this creatine banter. Seriously, wtf? __________________ www.jspec.com www.vertex-usa.com www.poweredbymax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

12-20-2010, 03:58 AM	#95
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like a Dong Posts: 6,901 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Hey guys. Just starting to work out, think I should use creatine? __________________

12-20-2010, 04:05 AM	#96
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,429 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Yes. Make others jealous with your sweet rip and maximum pump. And in only 8 weeks, vaginas will be desperately campaigning to get in your life. __________________ www.jspec.com www.vertex-usa.com www.poweredbymax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

12-22-2010, 12:38 AM	#103
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,517 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Just got back from the gym. I tried the pyramid sets and I gatta say I like it. I maxed out then got to do some fuck you" sets. That's what I'm calling them anyway. I got hurt. Only thing is that these type of sets will only work for people that workout one part of the body a day, as it really tires you. I like it and might start doing it all the time. I will find out tomorrow just how well I did, when I see how sore I am. __________________ 89 240sx hatch #933-the hot rod 91 240sx coupe #131,603-the daily

01-01-2011, 11:21 PM	#105
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 12,936 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	havent worked out during the holidays.. Ill get back on it though. __________________ Keep it classy .

12-20-2010, 05:18 PM	#99
redline racer510 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sesame Street Posts: 849 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	what advice can you give people that want to start working out and have no idea where to start like me

01-02-2011, 02:40 PM	#106
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,667 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	I'm still suffering from a leg workout I dd on Wednesday, I pushed a bit too hard.

01-02-2011, 10:20 PM	#108
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,517 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Dead lifts kill me. I try to do them the day before I have a day off from work. Working with sore legs and back sucks ass. __________________ 89 240sx hatch #933-the hot rod 91 240sx coupe #131,603-the daily

01-03-2011, 02:16 PM	#109
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,667 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	I like being sore, feels good lol... but not like i felt after that workout, that was beyond sore. it hurt to move, sit, lie down, walk you name it on the inside of my thighs and quads.

01-03-2011, 04:40 PM	#110
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,429 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Leg days are the best! My personal favorite. __________________ www.jspec.com www.vertex-usa.com www.poweredbymax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

01-03-2011, 05:40 PM	#112
SuicidnS13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,460 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I love being sore and all pumped up during the week. __________________ GS300 - Works, UAS, JP Stuff Acura TL - The Plush Ride

01-03-2011, 08:49 PM	#113
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,517 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	LOL I'm not the only one that like to be sore,? good to hear. I usually enjoy it, except when it is excessive. Like when I worked in a warehouse. We stocked International truck and bus parts. I couldn't get too sore it would effect my speed at work! Hopefully I will be getting a customer service job I'm interviewing for, then I'll have more energy and can get REALLY hurt. __________________ 89 240sx hatch #933-the hot rod 91 240sx coupe #131,603-the daily

01-03-2011, 10:39 PM	#115
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,429 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	^^^ SO TRUE. OMG I can't stand the "how much do you bench?" question. So irritating. People are so misguided. Real strength has nothing to do with how much you bench or whatever.....or even size for that matter. I get questions like this ALL the time when i work out at 24. When will they learn?!?! __________________ www.jspec.com www.vertex-usa.com www.poweredbymax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

01-04-2011, 09:53 AM	#118
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,667 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Soooo true! I hate the "how much do you bench?" with a passion. I recently reconnected with an old buddy from school and he states he has working out for 2 years or so, so I told him "cool! me too, I started getting into it this October" and then... he asks, "so how much are you benching ?" I told him I didnt know and he looked at me like his brain was going to explode.

01-04-2011, 02:40 PM	#120
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,667 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	I feel you, its extremely annoying. I can rep 205lbs in sets of 8-10 and although its only 20lbs over my weight at the moment, I am more than satisfied and have no need to push my max or whatevr it may be.

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