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tricky_ab · 11-10-2009, 11:05 AM

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A couple's nightly sex sessions were making their neighbours' lives' hell, a court heard today.

Caroline and Steve Cartwright's love making was described as "murder" and "unnatural" and drowned out their neighbours' televisions.

But it was not just the neighbours who were up in arms about the noise coming from their terraced house in Hall Road, Concord, Washington, Tyne and Wear - even the local postman and a woman who walked past the house taking her child to school complained.

A judge and two magistrates at Newcastle Crown Court even listened to a 10-minute recording of the Cartwrights romps, which were recorded over a five-day period last August.

Neighbours said the Cartwrights sex sessions would usually start around midnight and last for two or three hours, every night of the week.

Mrs Cartwright is appealing her conviction by magistrates for breaching a noise abatement notice that banned the couple from "shouting, screaming or vocalisation at such a level as to be a statutory nuisance".

She is using Article 8 of the Human Rights Act to argue that she has a right to "respect for her private and family life".

Mrs Cartwright is also arguing that she cannot help making the noise and has instructed a sexual psychologist to give evidence on her behalf.

Next door neighbour Rachel O'Connor said she was frequently late for work because she overslept having been awake most of the night because of the noise.

"It is not very pleasant living there and it has been quite stressful," she told the court.

"I always feel intimidated living there. I was aware of it when I first moved in but I did not believe it would be this bad."

Asked what the noise problem was, she replied: "The Cartwrights having sex. It's just quite unnatural.

"The noise sounds like they are both in inconsiderable pain. Mr Cartwright sounds like he is in inconsiderable pain.

"I cannot describe the noise. Totally excessive and I have never ever heard anything like it.

"I put my telly in my bedroom on as loud as it could go and they drown it out."

Specialist equipment installed in Miss O'Connor's flat by Sunderland City Council recorded noise levels of between 30 to 40 decibels, with the highest being 47 decibels.

Marion Dixon, an environmental health manager with the council, told the hearing what happened when the Cartwrights were confronted by the council with the neighbours' complaints.

"Mr Cartwright held his head in his hands but Mrs Cartwright seemed to find it quite amusing," she said.

"I told them at the time that the council found this extremely serious and was considering serving them with a noise abatement notice.

"She was adamant she could not stop the noise and had always done it."

Mrs Dixon said she visited both Miss O'Connor's flat and Marjorie Hall, who lived the other side of the Cartwrights, and took notes of what she heard.

"I heard a male voice howling loudly, which I felt was very unnerving."

Colleague Pamela Spark also visited Hall Road and took written notes of what she heard.

"Hysterical, almost continuous, just screaming," she said.

"I noted that I found it very disturbing and I noted that it sounded like she was being murdered.

"I also noted that it was very alarming."

The Independent

Noisy neighbours or free entertainment?

*punxva* · 11-10-2009, 11:14 AM

lol thats just crazy, stupid ass laws, but at the same time if its bother other people then i guess the charges are warranted

*SimpleS14* · 11-10-2009, 11:24 AM

No sound bits or pics of Mrs. Cartwright?

Ms O'Connor claimed to know the sounds existed before she moved it...that must mean she was willing to accept it. =/

2-3 hours every night...DAYUM...even that is a bit much after while

I doubt I can live at such a place with neighbors like that. The only solution is the sound proof the walls and windows.

*SlideWell* · 11-10-2009, 11:27 AM

haha, id be amused. video that shit and throw in on youporn mwuahahahah.

driftsilvias13 · 11-10-2009, 11:35 AM

Wow, can you imagine that?! Youre neighbors every single night?! It must be fucking loud as hell if you have the TV on in your room on full blast and still can hear it! Its pretty funny but I wouldnt want to live next to them haha

BOROSUN · 11-10-2009, 01:10 PM

wait the one screaming is the husband? hah

*future240* · 11-10-2009, 01:36 PM

I have a new hero.

ZilviaKid · 11-10-2009, 02:19 PM

i bet shes a fatty

*zylvia213* · 11-10-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ZilviaKid

i bet shes a fatty

i bet both are fattys...

dam i could only amagine how loud they get.

***ThatGuy*** · 11-10-2009, 02:47 PM

Freedom of speech - Blah

How about town noise ordnance?
Disturbing the peace?
Lewd behavior?
Hell, you could probably even make a case of sexual harassment out of this.

*ryguy* · 11-10-2009, 02:53 PM

The town was definitely right to take them to court.

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Mrs Cartwright is also arguing that she cannot help making the noise and has instructed a sexual psychologist to give evidence on her behalf.

my fucking ass. She's just a moron.

*ronmcdon* · 11-10-2009, 03:03 PM

Lmao, over 40 decibels is plain rediculous.
also it's pretty damn uneccesary to start the routine with the dude 'howling' beforehand.

The couple were def delibrately doing this to get attention.
Either that, or they were operating some s&m dungeon at their apt.

***CrimsonRockett*** · 11-10-2009, 03:14 PM

'the fuck?

The couple is most definitely doing this shit for attention.

I would be pissed too if I had to hear that shit.

People can have sex all they want, but it's another thing to be yelling at the top of your lungs.

Fucking attention whores.

keistyle · 11-10-2009, 03:58 PM

there has to be some old, hairy, lonely neighbor, that just sits in his couch . . . . alone. . with all the lights off a sole candle and just jerks off to their sound.

LOL.

yea.. funny

*deolio* · 11-10-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ryguy

my fucking ass. She's just a moron.

my ex used to not be able to control her noises. although she wasn't screaming her head off at 47db... the town council should pitch in to buy that bitch a gag.

*ryguy* · 11-10-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by deolio

my ex used to not be able to control her noises. although she wasn't screaming her head off at 47db... the town council should pitch in to buy that bitch a gag.

Not being able to control your noises is one thing. The fact that both the man and woman were screaming bloody murder is idiotic.

tricky_ab · 11-10-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zylvia213

i bet both are fattys...

dam i could only amagine how loud they get.

From the Mail:

Also 47 decibels isn't even that loud. Normal conversation is 60. I imagine it's the sort of thing that once you hear you can't un hear. Especially when you're quietly in bed trying to sleep at 2 in the god damn night.

*ryguy* · 11-10-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tricky_ab

Also 47 decibels isn't even that loud. Especially when you're quietly in bed trying to sleep at 2 in the god damn night.

Exactly, 47 decibels is a lot when you're in the dark in a perfectly quiet room, trying to sleep, at 2am, every day, and especially more so when it's some brutal sounding sex.

*s13 @ fullboost* · 11-10-2009, 04:51 PM

Yeah I make some weird noises that I cant control whenever I get my car insurance bill. =/

nissansrbetter16 · 11-10-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by keistyle

there has to be some old, hairy, lonely neighbor, that just sits in his couch . . . . alone. . with all the lights off a sole candle and just jerks off to their sound.

LOL.

yea.. funny

Yea but he is not howling when he is doing it so he is fine lol

*zenki.life* · 11-10-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonRockett

'the fuck?

The couple is most definitely doing this shit for attention.

I would be pissed too if I had to hear that shit.

People can have sex all they want, but it's another thing to be yelling at the top of your lungs.

Fucking attention whores.

yep yep yep

randomxzero · 11-10-2009, 07:31 PM

Damn people cant get down and dirty without having other people all up in their business

*theronin* · 11-10-2009, 07:49 PM

my neighbors complained a few times to me and my lady at the time that we were too loud. so ya know what we did? moved all our sex stuff into the den which didnt share a wall with the neighbors. done and done.

oh and btw, that bitch is nasty.

that dude is wearing a secret garage shirt.

*ericcastro* · 11-10-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuy

Freedom of speech - Blah

How about town noise ordnance?
Disturbing the peace?
Lewd behavior?
Hell, you could probably even make a case of sexual harassment out of this.

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Originally Posted by ryguy

The town was definitely right to take them to court.

my fucking ass. She's just a moron.

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Originally Posted by ronmcdon

Lmao, over 40 decibels is plain rediculous.
also it's pretty damn uneccesary to start the routine with the dude 'howling' beforehand.

The couple were def delibrately doing this to get attention.
Either that, or they were operating some s&m dungeon at their apt.

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Originally Posted by CrimsonRockett

'the fuck?

The couple is most definitely doing this shit for attention.

I would be pissed too if I had to hear that shit.

People can have sex all they want, but it's another thing to be yelling at the top of your lungs.

Fucking attention whores.

you guys said it all.
These people have some mental issues of sorts.

Is that a pic of them above??
They look a little off.
fucking Deer Hunter.
that guy looks like he's done some time inthe grey bar hotel or on the street.
Look in those eyes, nuts.

*xpertsnowcarver* · 11-10-2009, 07:57 PM

Man, that is a funny ass story. Hahaha.

Bubbles · 11-11-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tricky_ab

From the Mail:

Working on a nice camel hoof there.

hOngsterr · 11-11-2009, 11:22 AM

haha thanks for pointing that out ;D

*zenki.life* · 11-11-2009, 12:47 PM

omg man. thats sick

*ryguy* · 11-11-2009, 05:27 PM

She looks like her voice would sound real deep and coarse. Like a man. Like the whole situation would sound like two burly men angrily fucking eachother.

*deolio* · 11-11-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

Working on a nice camel hoof there.

it's called a moose knuckle

11-10-2009, 11:24 AM	#3
SimpleS14 Keeping it simple... Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 26 Posts: 7,838 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14	No sound bits or pics of Mrs. Cartwright? Ms O'Connor claimed to know the sounds existed before she moved it...that must mean she was willing to accept it. =/ 2-3 hours every night...DAYUM...even that is a bit much after while I doubt I can live at such a place with neighbors like that. The only solution is the sound proof the walls and windows. __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* MA240SX L.H.O.O.Q.

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driftsilvias13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 856 Trader Rating: (17)	Wow, can you imagine that?! Youre neighbors every single night?! It must be fucking loud as hell if you have the TV on in your room on full blast and still can hear it! Its pretty funny but I wouldnt want to live next to them haha __________________

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SlideWell Flying Under the Radar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: white sandy beaches, USA Age: 26 Posts: 1,326 Trader Rating: (0)	haha, id be amused. video that shit and throw in on youporn mwuahahahah.

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ronmcdon misanthrope Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 74 Posts: 2,256 Trader Rating: (3)	Lmao, over 40 decibels is plain rediculous. also it's pretty damn uneccesary to start the routine with the dude 'howling' beforehand. The couple were def delibrately doing this to get attention. Either that, or they were operating some s&m dungeon at their apt.

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*CrimsonRockett* We're watching you. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,993 Trader Rating: (73) Rides Gallery: CrimsonRockett	'the fuck? The couple is most definitely doing this shit for attention. I would be pissed too if I had to hear that shit. People can have sex all they want, but it's another thing to be yelling at the top of your lungs. Fucking attention whores. __________________ -Angry Panda Fabrication - Fixing iDesigns shitty work since 2008. CrimsonRockett@blogspot Need body work/paint? PM me.

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