articdragon192

They actually give DMV written exams in Spanish here in California if requested, as well as a Spanish instructor for taking the driving exam.

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its not unreasonable to give a ticket for $206 for u-turn and driving without a license but that's not the reason this thread was created so that doesn't really matter much now does it

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ranger240

youre right, the real question is, what language we should be speaking..

the answer is

ENGLISH


take zilvia for instance.. we dont take too kindly when those silly french Canadians speaking in that sissy french tongue...


ENGLISH FTW

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jdm538

i took 4 years of french in highschool..

sadly no one uses it here so i lost it all.

murda-c

Everyone who was ticketed had to pay that fine, on top of what you had to pay for you other violations.

fucking duh.

Anyway if learning english was necessary everyone would have done it. It obviously isn't necessary. It's the smart thing to do, but so is going to college or investing your money instead of buying rimz or a boat.

Someone else not speaking english has never hurt me in any way.

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HyperTek

sadly i think you would get soo much hate here in socal if you had those stickers on your car

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raz0rbladez909

Obviously they were all pulled over for other laws they had violated, i'm sure its not like the cops just looked at them and said hey they might not speak english lets pull them over. Obviously they were breaking laws that if they knew english they might understand, if I were to go down to Mexico I certainly wouldn't expect them to have special shit for me in english just because I don't feel like learning spanish, pull the race card all you want, i'm spanish too learn the local fucking language or gtfo

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zenki.life

haha. this is ridiculously funny!

i think more cops SHOULD give this ticket.(joking btw) this is america after all. i mean shit. i speak english, AND i speak spanish. Buuuuut, English is the more important language to know!
anyone who comes to this country should be required to learn english

but i guess this should only pertain to the legals. the illegals, well nobody governs them

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silpena

you of all should know ppl in mexico dont care what language you speak unlike here in the U.S....
Its a choice if you want to learn or not. YOu make what you can of it. The ones who refuse to learn just a little will not last and get deported.(i see it all the time) they never get citizenship or any kind of papers so they cant keep a stable legal job. Are you a first or second generation mexican? did your parents learn english and do they know it perfectly now? are you gonna tell them to go back? You are expected to learn english. You were born here and have been given the chance to become what your parents cannot.

I do agree they were pulled over for a good reason. The cop did his job but the idiots couldnt communicate so the cop did the best he could. Its not his job to try and explaine why he pulled them over in spanish... im surprised they payed and didnt get deported. That be the thing to do. I'm tired of these idiots coming in and ruining it for other immigrants who are trying to adjust and work here.

Now wat really grinds my gears is women coming in marrying for papers then divorcing guys who live here..... but thats another day.

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Matej

It is sad that there are people all over the world learning English, many sacrificing their free time to do so, and a lot of those people will never even get to use it, while there are people living in an English-speaking country who cannot speak it and are not making any effort to learn.

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ashtonroche

my buddies wife is the same way, he married here and brought her into this country. She hardly knows and speaks any english.

I told my buddy why not just speak to her in english and he had a valid response of well making a good marriage requires communication. He is straight up Oregon born white boy redneck and he knows spanish as if it were his own language. He spent the time and sacrificed to learn the language that isnt even Americas language. But yet she refuses to do the same. And there are many many people in our country that are the same way. They refuse to learn it. WHY? Guess they dont feel like it and dont feel like they have to. I think it should be more enforced. Cuz yeah we shouldnt have to cope with them by redoing all the road signs and whatnot to accomidate them.

Too many places already do this. It just lets them say yeah all the reason not to learn and speak it. And it sucks. haha

drift freaq

Actually the official language is English he is correct. The country has always spoken English, that pretty much makes it official. Its not like the country always made an effort towards bilingualism. In fact it did not happen till the 80-90's that you started seeing signs in Spanish or Chinese at the DMV.

Whats funny about this, is go to Mexico, Japan, China, France, Germany,Russia,Brazil, Guetamala, Costa Rica etc.. and try expecting them to speak English to communicate with you?
Its not going to happen. In fact they will insist on you speaking there language.

Why the fuck should the United States bend over backwords to support other languages? Come to my country speak my language, which is English. Don't know it? Learn it.
When I go to Japan I try to speak Japanese not expect them to understand English.

Oh and this has nothing to do with whether we have a multiple language education system that works. Its only about learning the language of your adopted country. When my Italian Grandfather and Grandmother came here they did not expect people to learn Italian they learned English and had their children learn English. Current immigrants could learn from examples like these.

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ronmcdon

No doubt the average immigrant writes better English than the average Zilvia member. jk.

Back to the issue.
The cop shouldn't have booked those guys for not speaking English,
AND have that written on any document as evidence.

If you had to get them, cite them for obstructing justice or whatever you can get away with.
There are so many ways a copper can harass someone, and not get in trouble for it.
If the said cops got in trouble, it was for exceptional stupidity and not abuse of power.
Perhaps even worse, were the judges in court & the police dept who went along with this.
Now they all look bad.

I do agree that immigrants should learn to speak English.
However, this isn't the appropriate or constructive way to deal with that situation.

Here in Los Angeles, it seems that barely anyone speaks English.
Even knowing a bit of Spanish and Chinese seems insufficient most times.
Won't be surprised if 10 yrs from now, kids will be expected to speak 5 languages.

S14_Kouki

If we lived over there we would learn Spanish, Since they moved to america they should learn English simple as that.

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It really opens your eyes when you start to notice that English is sometimes in the subtitles of signs or whatever. It's pretty wild out here.

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iROCKchucks

I live Around Dallas and cops are pretty racist around the rich neighborhoods. I got pulled over in my s14 and asked to step out of the vehicle and sit on the curb cuz i fit a persons description. Then the second white officer pulled up, guess not knowing what was going on and started to speak to me in broken Spanish asking if i had a green card and what part of mexico im from??? i responded in english and he felt embarressed. then they let me go.

tricky_ab

What the hell? That's a pretty ass backward thought process...

articdragon192

This is so true. And to whomever said English is easy to learn... yeah fucking right. It has got to be one of the hardest language to learn. Every freaking rule has an exception to it. Hell, we spend more that 15 years learning it, and people still don't know the difference between to, two, too, and they're and their.

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Love the last line.

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xdarkrune

this is a stupid topic.

lets see.
what langauge are our road and traffic signs in?
english.

now from a safety stand point. wouldn't it just make SENSE for someone to read/speak/write/understand english in order to drive? it does to me.

this is more of a safety issue, than a racial/social one.

if you cannot drive correctly, or obey the law becuse you can't understand/read the sign, than i'm sorry you shouldnt be allowed a license or the ability to drive. driving is a priviledge, not a right. take the bus. or walk.

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and a round of applause for this man.

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Here in new york its little different i guess..we deal people who from many different parts of the world.
Cops will be pigs,this happen over with this mexican guy riding his bike on the curb.The guy got stop didnt have id nor could speak english.bang in jail for like a month cause he have didnt any kinda Id..lol.

Also Problem is these people come over here work there ass off make 7.00 or less an hour off the book working 12+ hours a day.And feel they dont need or have the time to try to learn english.But on the other hand when you come to this country you must try hard to adpat to this culture.Or you wont get far working wise and will always get the crappy jobs.I know many immigrant who speak english pretty well enough that you cant understand everything or make by having them repeat it..lol.Then there immigrant who are embarressed cause they know there english sucks balls.

I deal many different people form different parts of the world In my job( its up scale car service).so there pretty much full of russian,polish,etc people.The the drivers are either russian,polish,indian,chinese or somewhere from the middle east.Honestly i dont know how they even deal with driving in city without know much of english.And when they do speak its you cant even understand 2 words of what there saying.When they call the dispatch desk they ask for someone who speaks there langauge.
Some of these guys have lived here over 5-10years or more.And there legit to live in this country and they can hardly speak english.

Some Passenageres who call from big firms and there 401k company's where they making 50k+ a year and ther english trash..there accents are crazy rough it makes no sense.Im asking them for there pick up address and there asking me to repeat cause i didnt know my question or i can understand them...spanish,asian,euro,english,etc.

So its not only immgrants..its people from other country in general

Tearlessj

Everytime I hang out with other Asians, they always randomly speak to themselves in their own language. I always scream at them, "THIS IS AMERICA, SPEAK ENGLISH!". Seriously though, my parents came over here when they were in there 20's. They learned the language well and have good careers. They MADE the effort to learn the culture and fit it. Every now and then i'll go to a friends house, and their relatives or parents will speak almost no English. I asked how long they've been here, "Around 20 or so years." I don't understand how you can want to move into another country and not try to fit in.

On another note, my gf's mom doesn't really speak English. She also told me her mom doesn't like me, because I don't talk to her much. WTF?! I blame the nail salons, almost all the Viet parents I know barely speak English. If they didn't do nails, they would almost be forced to learn English to work. Most of them plan to raise their kids and go back to Vietnam.

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It's one thing to learn the language,
which I agree ought to be done out of common courtesy (if nothing else).

It's quite another to appreciate the culture.
that's even if there's a well defined American culture to begin with.
If you speak the language, get along ok with everyone else, I don't see what the prob is.

I'm Chinese, & I will always speak Chinese with another Chinese person when possible.
Doesn't matter where or which country I'm in.
If anything, it is odd (to me at least) when 2nd or later generations forget their cultural roots and original language.

sevenstar

this is awsome, i feel that all people living here in america need to assimilate to our country's native language of english. If you can not speak english then you will get a $400 ticket, which can be waived if you complete english classes, and learn to speak english...
too many immigrants legal or illegal come here, and do not assimilate, they drive our roads and some do not have licenses.
This is not a racist idea, its commom sense. why should tax payers spend extra money on non english speaking people? then we have to print our dmv books in their language, when all the traffic signs are in english. we was lots of money printing these books for them to read in their language, think about how many trees went into making those books, how much money is wasted every year on state funded services that print pamphlets in other languages.

brndck

learn the language of the country you live in.
whether its egypt, russia, mars, china, or the usa.
if i lived in france, you'd better believe that i would be speaking broken french within 3 weeks, and be fluent within 6 months.

imo, the feeling many of us have is that someone who is unwilling to try to learn our language will also be unwilling to contribute to our society in a positive manner.
i have no problem with any immigrant/nationality preserving their history and culture, even if they're in america, but they MUST accept the ways of our nation.

i will make a stupid example:
if i moved to the uk or to australia, but insisted on driving on the right side of the road, like we do here in the us, how long do you think i'd last?

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