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wh0aitznic0 · 09-28-2009, 10:41 PM

With my new job and available funds, I can now afford a decent TV that doesn't take up 50% of my bedroom. I'm looking to buy an HDTV (1080p and at least 120hz I've heard) in the price range of $450-$600 at least a 37" that I can mount on my wall to take up the least space and hook up my 360 to play games and watch occasional DVD's. Movies I don't really care too much about since there's a huge 50" downstairs.

I know BB offers financing and I'd honestly rather do that than drop a big fat stack of money.

Any suggestions?

sleep · 09-29-2009, 12:08 AM

Samsung LCD/LED tv's are the best.

I have a samsung 47" upstairs, and a samsung 62" downstairs.

Research. Just google it.

*Kouki_monstr* · 09-29-2009, 12:50 AM

i love my 46' samsung 650 series touch of color. i use it for ps3 and blue rays. couldnt be happier

Soooshi · 09-29-2009, 01:03 AM

Samsungs all have crushing dark blacks. They're stupid black and you lose details.

Stay away from plasmas. They're 240hz, high heat output and burn out fast.

LCD is your best bet.

There isn't a noticable difference in 720p and 1080p. Anyone that "can see" the difference is lying out of their assholes.

Helghast · 09-29-2009, 03:15 AM

no difference at 50" and lower.

Get a good Panny 720p @ 42" and call it a day.

Honestly, as long as the contrast and sharpness is up, most people don't care.

Calibration doesn't exist in most people's TV vocab.

Soooshi · 09-29-2009, 03:32 AM

And thats how the clowns at BBuy get you.

Shitty calibration and askew view ratio.

Then they compare that TV to a TV with Magical HDMI input/Monster cables thats been calibrated and viewed right.

*SimpleS14* · 09-29-2009, 05:47 AM

I'm bias, but I like my Sharp TV. I have two friends that had there Samsung TV act a bit fluky at times, but they do look nice.

ZX88 · 09-29-2009, 07:03 AM

samsung. done

kandyflip445 · 09-29-2009, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soooshi

Samsungs all have crushing dark blacks. They're stupid black and you lose details.

Stay away from plasmas. They're 240hz, high heat output and burn out fast.

LCD is your best bet.

There isn't a noticable difference in 720p and 1080p. Anyone that "can see" the difference is lying out of their assholes.

LOLOLOLOL. Samsungs will have black crush if you have them set incorrectly, most tvs will.

Plasmas are mostly "480hz subfield drive" or "600hz subfield drive" which means they have either eight or ten subfields that all run at 60hz. Yes that means they're 60hz televisions. Some are capable of using 72hz for 24p playback of blu rays. I've seen LCDs that run hotter than Plasmas and burn out quicker too. Both technologies are VERY similar in performance now a days in most every category, it just depends on what you like for the most part.

There isn't a difference between 720p and 1080p at MOST viewing distances.

Search "1080p graph" in google and click on the first link. w00t

*murda-c* · 09-29-2009, 08:40 AM

One thing i've noticed on plasmas is that they all have very glossy screens, which can hurt in a room where there's a window at your back or something like that.

I'm happy with my toshiba regza and my dad's vizio, but they both took me forever to get calibrated where i was content.

They're both 37" and 720p, which is more than enough resolution.

I'm probably going to upgrade to a 46" or larger for the living room though, because some of the seats are far away.

BOROSUN · 09-29-2009, 12:50 PM

yeah, plasma today dont burn out or screen burn-in and also have longer hour life than lcd.
they are still energy hogs compared to lcd. but, they're better now.

i'll take the v10 or kuro plasma over any lcd.

sleep · 09-29-2009, 05:24 PM

Thats why LED is where its at now......

kouki-gymkhana · 09-29-2009, 07:33 PM

Just bought a Samsung LED/LCD 46 incher. Shit is boss, son...Stay away from Best Buy! I had the absolute worst experience purchasing the TV through them and their customer service is total shit.

Soooshi · 09-30-2009, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleep

Thats why LED is where its at now......

OLED BIATCH!!!

Get it right

sleep · 09-30-2009, 12:10 AM

thats right, fuck plasma!

*zylvia213* · 09-30-2009, 01:33 PM

this is what i just purchased 1 week ago and so far happy with it.

Samsung - 50" Class / 720p / 600Hz / Plasma HDTV

*Okinawandrifter87* · 09-30-2009, 01:36 PM

Make sure you have a high contrast ratio 1:50,000 for example. Just depends on what size you go, but make sure that you dont neglect that spec.

*exitspeed* · 11-03-2009, 02:39 PM

So can someone explain a little more in detail about the whole Hz thing? I kinda get it but want someone to spell it out for me.

So here's my deal, I'm looking for a 40" TV. I'm looking to buy in Black Fri and don't want to spend more then $800 on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helghast

Honestly, as long as the contrast and sharpness is up, most people don't care.

Calibration doesn't exist in most people's TV vocab.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soooshi

And thats how the clowns at BBuy get you.

Shitty calibration and askew view ratio.

Then they compare that TV to a TV with Magical HDMI input/Monster cables thats been calibrated and viewed right.

And how do you go about calibrating the TV? Do you have a proffessional come in and do it or is it something you do on your own?

INPUT. NEED MORE INPUT!

*zenki.life* · 11-03-2009, 02:43 PM

oh thats right black friday is almost upon us. yeeesssss

I LUV MY S13 · 11-03-2009, 02:53 PM

if you want a good model your gonna need more than $600

*ronmcdon* · 11-03-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wh0aitznic0

With my new job and available funds, I can now afford a decent TV that doesn't take up 50% of my bedroom. I'm looking to buy an HDTV (1080p and at least 120hz I've heard) in the price range of $450-$600 at least a 37" that I can mount on my wall to take up the least space and hook up my 360 to play games and watch occasional DVD's. Movies I don't really care too much about since there's a huge 50" downstairs.

I know BB offers financing and I'd honestly rather do that than drop a big fat stack of money.

Any suggestions?

I would do this 40" Toshiba for around $590 shipped.
The 1080p thing might work well if you also plan to use it as a mon for your computer.
As long as you don't type a lot, it works out ok imo.

TB40RV525R | 40RV525R - 40" 1080p High-definition LCD TV - High Gloss Cabinet | BuyDig.com

sephiroth99 · 11-03-2009, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

So can someone explain a little more in detail about the whole Hz thing? I kinda get it but want someone to spell it out for me.

Basically, 120Hz TV were introduced so that, when viewing a video source at 24fps (example, a blu-ray at 1080p24), the TV won't have to do a 3:2 pulldown.

"Normal" TVs running at 60Hz have a problem displaying 24 different images when updating the screen 60 times. 60/24 = 2.5 but the TV can't update half the screen. So the third time, it "merges" the current frame with the next frame to make a "transition" frame. That's 3:2 pulldown. see : http://www.projectorpeople.com/resources/pulldown-3.asp

But if you are updating 120 times each second, 120/24 = 5 . So, the TV updates 5 times for each new frame it receives.

People may say it's also to remove motion blur, but I think it's more a placebo effect than anything. For example, most of us are running a LCD on our computers at 60Hz, and we watch movies with no problem at all.

hope it clears things up a little, I can explain differently if needed

*Drift N Dragg* · 11-03-2009, 04:15 PM

I have a Samsung 42" New Gen Plasma Tech HDTV 1080i ... and I have had zero complaints about it... I have had it over a year, colors are still better then My Friends 42 LCD TV...

Now the Older Gen PLasma's burnt out in less then 3 years of continuious play time (more then 6 hours a day) ..

The New Gen have a bunch of extra tech,so that it doesnt do that.. and I have NO problems with my Black draining out other colors.

But LED is absolutely AWESOME!!! but that is a expensive TV

*exitspeed* · 11-03-2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helghast

no difference at 50" and lower.

Get a good Panny 720p @ 42" and call it a day.

Honestly, as long as the contrast and sharpness is up, most people don't care.

Calibration doesn't exist in most people's TV vocab.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soooshi

And thats how the clowns at BBuy get you.

Shitty calibration and askew view ratio.

Then they compare that TV to a TV with Magical HDMI input/Monster cables thats been calibrated and viewed right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

So can someone explain a little more in detail about the whole Hz thing? I kinda get it but want someone to spell it out for me.

So here's my deal, I'm looking for a 40" TV. I'm looking to buy in Black Fri and don't want to spend more then $800 on it.

And how do you go about calibrating the TV? Do you have a proffessional come in and do it or is it something you do on your own?

INPUT. NEED MORE INPUT!

Quote:

Originally Posted by I LUV MY S13

if you want a good model your gonna need more than $600

Quote:

Originally Posted by sephiroth99

Basically, 120Hz TV were introduced so that, when viewing a video source at 24fps (example, a blu-ray at 1080p24), the TV won't have to do a 3:2 pulldown.

"Normal" TVs running at 60Hz have a problem displaying 24 different images when updating the screen 60 times. 60/24 = 2.5 but the TV can't update half the screen. So the third time, it "merges" the current frame with the next frame to make a "transition" frame. That's 3:2 pulldown. see : Projector People : 3:2 Pulldown Explained

But if you are updating 120 times each second, 120/24 = 5 . So, the TV updates 5 times for each new frame it receives.

People may say it's also to remove motion blur, but I think it's more a placebo effect than anything. For example, most of us are running a LCD on our computers at 60Hz, and we watch movies with no problem at all.

hope it clears things up a little, I can explain differently if needed

Yeah that's kinda what I was reading. The Hz this basically hype and marketing. It's like the whole megapixel war. Thanks for explaining it better. What i read didn't make as much sense on how it works.

tricky_ab · 11-03-2009, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soooshi

Samsungs all have crushing dark blacks. They're stupid black and you lose details.

Stay away from plasmas. They're 240hz, high heat output and burn out fast.

LCD is your best bet.

What? First Plasmas are NOT 240hz, they've always been 600hz, but now that LCD's are advertising "amazing motion flow technology" they had to find a buzz word. And this is 2009, plasmas do not burn out fast...common people...

Anyways, for your TV size unless you are planning to sit REALLY close, you can get a 720P set and save yourself some money...

BOROSUN · 11-03-2009, 04:54 PM

120hz actually make playing games look much more smooth. in 120hz the're still artifacts on fast screens movements but, still better than any lcd that doesnt have it.

also watch movies like bolt, happy feet, and cars makes it so much more life like.

i plan to get 240hz on my next lcd. 1080p all the way.

*exitspeed* · 11-03-2009, 04:58 PM

So if I get a 1080p 240hz LCD, like a Samsung or Sony, it should be a good picture?

And again, what is the deal with calibrating the TV?

BOROSUN · 11-03-2009, 05:30 PM

calibration to get the best life-like colors/image to your eyes. ei. like a brickwall on the screen is too red you adjust it to where it looks realistic. the picture wizard settings on my LG has been great so far.

accurate colors and deep blacks plasma wins it . only if the panasonic h10's were cheaper...i want it.

http://forums.cnet.com/hdtv-picture-settings-forum/ lots of lcd settings to help you.

tricky_ab · 11-03-2009, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

120hz actually make playing games look much more smooth. in 120hz the're still artifacts on fast screens movements but, still better than any lcd that doesnt have it.

also watch movies like bolt, happy feet, and cars makes it so much more life like.

i plan to get 240hz on my next lcd. 1080p all the way.

Really? I have 120hz on my set and I turn it OFF! It makes everything look like it was shot with a handy cam...

Same goes for my front projector in my HT...

I LUV MY S13 · 11-03-2009, 08:20 PM

40" lcd, samsung, 1080p resolution, contrast ratio 40,000 and up, 120Hz, good HD sources, HDMI cables, and your good to go...

should be around 1600-1800ish....thats if you want the good stuff

you can go the cheap route and probably spend aroun 800...but i dont think you'd be happy with that

09-28-2009, 10:41 PM	#1
wh0aitznic0 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hamilton, NJ Posts: 409 Trader Rating: (0)	Noob to HDTV's looking to buy one. With my new job and available funds, I can now afford a decent TV that doesn't take up 50% of my bedroom. I'm looking to buy an HDTV (1080p and at least 120hz I've heard) in the price range of $450-$600 at least a 37" that I can mount on my wall to take up the least space and hook up my 360 to play games and watch occasional DVD's. Movies I don't really care too much about since there's a huge 50" downstairs. I know BB offers financing and I'd honestly rather do that than drop a big fat stack of money. Any suggestions? __________________ WTB: AUTHENTIC Bride Zeta II !! w/ or w/o DS rail.

09-29-2009, 01:03 AM	#4
Soooshi Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pomona, CA (2 houses down from the dead body) Age: 23 Posts: 5,706 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: Soooshi	Samsungs all have crushing dark blacks. They're stupid black and you lose details. Stay away from plasmas. They're 240hz, high heat output and burn out fast. LCD is your best bet. There isn't a noticable difference in 720p and 1080p. Anyone that "can see" the difference is lying out of their assholes. __________________ <imgsrc="http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6123/siggyx.png">

09-29-2009, 03:15 AM	#5
Helghast Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: killllacali Age: 25 Posts: 1,568 Trader Rating: (0)	no difference at 50" and lower. Get a good Panny 720p @ 42" and call it a day. Honestly, as long as the contrast and sharpness is up, most people don't care. Calibration doesn't exist in most people's TV vocab. __________________ http://i37.tinypic.com/2vw5o50.jpg

09-29-2009, 03:32 AM	#6
Soooshi Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pomona, CA (2 houses down from the dead body) Age: 23 Posts: 5,706 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: Soooshi	And thats how the clowns at BBuy get you. Shitty calibration and askew view ratio. Then they compare that TV to a TV with Magical HDMI input/Monster cables thats been calibrated and viewed right. __________________ <imgsrc="http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6123/siggyx.png">

09-29-2009, 05:47 AM	#7
SimpleS14 Keeping it simple... Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 26 Posts: 7,839 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14	I'm bias, but I like my Sharp TV. I have two friends that had there Samsung TV act a bit fluky at times, but they do look nice. __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* MA240SX L.H.O.O.Q.

09-29-2009, 12:08 AM	#2
sleep Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Tan Valley, AZ Age: 26 Posts: 489 Trader Rating: (0)	Samsung LCD/LED tv's are the best. I have a samsung 47" upstairs, and a samsung 62" downstairs. Research. Just google it.

09-29-2009, 12:50 AM	#3
Kouki_monstr Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Inland Empire Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (1)	i love my 46' samsung 650 series touch of color. i use it for ps3 and blue rays. couldnt be happier

09-29-2009, 07:03 AM	#8
ZX88 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: new jersey Age: 21 Posts: 1,628 Trader Rating: (5)	samsung. done __________________ destruction mode 1

09-29-2009, 08:40 AM	#10
murda-c Has a Premium Member. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: deep inside...MoCo, MD Age: 21 Posts: 2,443 Trader Rating: (0)	One thing i've noticed on plasmas is that they all have very glossy screens, which can hurt in a room where there's a window at your back or something like that. I'm happy with my toshiba regza and my dad's vizio, but they both took me forever to get calibrated where i was content. They're both 37" and 720p, which is more than enough resolution. I'm probably going to upgrade to a 46" or larger for the living room though, because some of the seats are far away. __________________

09-29-2009, 12:50 PM	#11
BOROSUN Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 29 Posts: 1,900 Trader Rating: (0)	yeah, plasma today dont burn out or screen burn-in and also have longer hour life than lcd. they are still energy hogs compared to lcd. but, they're better now. i'll take the v10 or kuro plasma over any lcd. __________________ Vaseline wins fights!!! .

09-29-2009, 05:24 PM	#12
sleep Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Tan Valley, AZ Age: 26 Posts: 489 Trader Rating: (0)	Thats why LED is where its at now......

09-29-2009, 07:33 PM	#13
kouki-gymkhana Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston & So. FL Posts: 142 Trader Rating: (0)	Just bought a Samsung LED/LCD 46 incher. Shit is boss, son...Stay away from Best Buy! I had the absolute worst experience purchasing the TV through them and their customer service is total shit. __________________ Happiness is OPPOSITE LOCK!

09-30-2009, 12:10 AM	#15
sleep Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Tan Valley, AZ Age: 26 Posts: 489 Trader Rating: (0)	thats right, fuck plasma!

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09-30-2009, 01:33 PM	#16
zylvia213 WESTSIDE Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: LOST ANGELES Posts: 865 Trader Rating: (13) Rides Gallery: zylvia213	this is what i just purchased 1 week ago and so far happy with it. Samsung - 50" Class / 720p / 600Hz / Plasma HDTV __________________

09-30-2009, 01:36 PM	#17
Okinawandrifter87 Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MAG-31 Beaufort, SC Age: 22 Posts: 1,026 Trader Rating: (0)	Make sure you have a high contrast ratio 1:50,000 for example. Just depends on what size you go, but make sure that you dont neglect that spec. __________________ JDMwerks

11-03-2009, 02:53 PM	#20
I LUV MY S13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NORWALK..56duece Age: 20 Posts: 1,439 Trader Rating: (5)	if you want a good model your gonna need more than $600 __________________ FYC bitches

11-03-2009, 04:15 PM	#23
Drift N Dragg So I slide.or Crashed..I Think Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Apple Valley, Ca Age: 29 Posts: 532 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Drift N Dragg	I have a Samsung 42" New Gen Plasma Tech HDTV 1080i ... and I have had zero complaints about it... I have had it over a year, colors are still better then My Friends 42 LCD TV... Now the Older Gen PLasma's burnt out in less then 3 years of continuious play time (more then 6 hours a day) .. The New Gen have a bunch of extra tech,so that it doesnt do that.. and I have NO problems with my Black draining out other colors. But LED is absolutely AWESOME!!! but that is a expensive TV __________________ 1990 Nissan 300ZX 2+2 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5S Secret Society ~ DRIFTER'S DO IT SIDEWAYS ~

11-03-2009, 04:54 PM	#26
BOROSUN Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 29 Posts: 1,900 Trader Rating: (0)	120hz actually make playing games look much more smooth. in 120hz the're still artifacts on fast screens movements but, still better than any lcd that doesnt have it. also watch movies like bolt, happy feet, and cars makes it so much more life like. i plan to get 240hz on my next lcd. 1080p all the way. __________________ Vaseline wins fights!!! .

11-03-2009, 05:30 PM	#28
BOROSUN Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 29 Posts: 1,900 Trader Rating: (0)	calibration to get the best life-like colors/image to your eyes. ei. like a brickwall on the screen is too red you adjust it to where it looks realistic. the picture wizard settings on my LG has been great so far. accurate colors and deep blacks plasma wins it . only if the panasonic h10's were cheaper...i want it. http://forums.cnet.com/hdtv-picture-settings-forum/ lots of lcd settings to help you. __________________ Vaseline wins fights!!! . Last edited by BOROSUN; 11-03-2009 at 05:51 PM.

11-03-2009, 08:20 PM	#30
I LUV MY S13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NORWALK..56duece Age: 20 Posts: 1,439 Trader Rating: (5)	40" lcd, samsung, 1080p resolution, contrast ratio 40,000 and up, 120Hz, good HD sources, HDMI cables, and your good to go... should be around 1600-1800ish....thats if you want the good stuff you can go the cheap route and probably spend aroun 800...but i dont think you'd be happy with that __________________ FYC bitches

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