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BustedS13 · 07-11-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RJF

And then 9/11 happened because Bill was more interested in get BJ's in the Oval Office than going after Osama bin Laden

I remember when Clinton was president in spring 2001 and he ignored warnings about hijackings and didn't do anything at all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/po.../10terror.html

ESmorz · 07-11-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RJF

And then 9/11 happened because Bill was more interested in get BJ's in the Oval Office than going after Osama bin Laden

I was too.

8th Grade pimpin.

BustedS13 · 07-11-2009, 09:42 PM

u guys ever see this movie? it's a pretty good movie. I also like its sequel "Zeitgeist". i guess u could say i'm a "Truther".

open ur eyes, Amerika.

Soooshi · 07-12-2009, 03:26 AM

America needs to defect to Canada.

MAPLE SYRUP FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!

Also, judging by the image size, there IS enough to go around!

*revat619* · 07-12-2009, 03:49 AM

Oh this is another Obama sucks thread.....

Yeah, a year ago the majority of America couldn't wait to get this guy in office. He doesn't turn around an 8 YEAR fuck up in 6 months and now everybody wants to bitch and moan like its his fault. Ummm yeah, GTFO with that noise.

BTP · 07-12-2009, 04:05 AM

u all

Helghast · 07-12-2009, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RJF

And then 9/11 happened because Bill was more interested in get BJ's in the Oval Office than going after Osama bin Laden

handinpants · 07-12-2009, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Aw damn, RJF got CAUGHT UP.

damn girl i want a copy of your signiture to stare at before i go to sleep at night....mmmm sexy

*Vision Garage* · 07-12-2009, 01:24 PM

Man why cant we give the Black man a chance! Shit dont happen overnight. But CANADA does sound like a good place to be. BROWNIES FTW!

98s14inaz · 07-12-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

i don't know if i'd rather he be black or "muslim". EITHER WAY NOT MY AMERICA, AM I RIGHT

Can't I hate him just because he's a socialist douchebag? Why does everyone have to bring color and religion into it.

98s14inaz · 07-12-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by revat619

Oh this is another Obama sucks thread.....

Yeah, a year ago the majority of America couldn't wait to get this guy in office. He doesn't turn around an 8 YEAR fuck up in 6 months and now everybody wants to bitch and moan like its his fault. Ummm yeah, GTFO with that noise.

The problem is he's not trying to turn it around, he got into the car and floored it. We're all hoping he'll have enough of us complaining, stop the car, turn around, and go home.

BTP · 07-13-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 98s14inaz

The problem is he's not trying to turn it around, he got into the car and floored it. We're all hoping he'll have enough of us complaining, stop the car, turn around, and go home.

dude its not Obamas fault Bush was a idiot and fucked up everything for the 20yrs or so and people seriously re elected him i sure he can do worst than bush so bitching and give him a chance to fix some of the problems its gonna be a while before everthing is back to were it should be.

98s14inaz · 07-13-2009, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BTP

dude its not Obamas fault Bush was a idiot and fucked up everything for the 20yrs or so and people seriously re elected him i sure he can do worst than bush so bitching and give him a chance to fix some of the problems its gonna be a while before everthing is back to were it should be.

Printing more money and spending on huge government programs is not the right way to get us out of this mess. Read up on the USSR when they started printing rupples to the point when they became so worthless because of inflation they pretty much traded in vodka and jeans afterwards. History repeats itself and socialism fails because eventually you run out of other people's money. Edit, I also agree Bush was legally retarded but doing the same thing again is not right.

*FaLKoN240* · 07-13-2009, 01:50 AM

Haha...everyone knows printing money doesn't solve anything but already lower the value of the dwindling dollar.

That's like francs in Germany after Hitler died.

Soooshi · 07-13-2009, 04:34 AM

Or 1 Trillion Nigerian Dollars.

Thats mad money son!

**RJF** · 07-13-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BTP

dude its not Obamas fault Bush was a idiot and fucked up everything for the 20yrs or so

Explain to me what Bush fucked up or is that just what you hear in the media?

Obama needs to man-up, grow some balls and stop blaming Bush. He's been part of the government since 2004 and part of the problem. He wanted this job and knew what he was getting into.

aznpoopy · 07-13-2009, 11:30 AM

clinton started it. bush continued and maintained it.

do you really think people could give joe shmoe the migratory farmhand, who makes 20k a year, a loan for 300k for a house, with no legal authority noticing? there are laws that prevent this sort of thing... fair lending / anti predatory lending. so how could this fucked up lending happen en masse for almost a decade?

the bush administration blocked any and all attempts by states to stop predatory lending practices through promulgation of archaic rules in the office of comptroller of currency, pre-empting the ability of states to block predatory lending practices.

this battle was ongoing in the years before the crash, as the OCC's preemption was confirmed in the 2007 SCOTUS case watters v. wachovia...

this case was subseqeuntly overturned by the more recent 2009 SCOTUS case cuomo v. clearing house association, re-establishing state ability to enforce, individually, state fair-lending practice law.

and yes, obama is a fucking dumbass. two party system lends itself to the moronic idea that there are only two solutions for any given problem. if not bush, then obama. right? wrong. too bad it's entirely possible, if not probable, that the ranks of both parties are lined with idiots. blind leading the blind.

**RJF** · 07-13-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aznpoopy

the bush administration blocked any and all attempts by states to stop predatory lending practices through promulgation of archaic rules in the office of comptroller of currency, pre-empting the ability of states to block predatory lending practices.

Check your facts. The Bush Administration and John McCain introduced legislation in 2004 to clean up the system and regulate sub-prime loans. The Democrats started crying racism and any legislation was killed.

aznpoopy · 07-13-2009, 02:31 PM

incorrect. bush administration pushed for OCC pre-emption.

that's why it's common referred to as, um, bush-era OCC pre-emption.

this is not a partisan issue.

it's something started under the dems and continued under the pubs. both parties are at fault here.

BustedS13 · 07-13-2009, 03:06 PM

i thought communism was going to be cool but it seems pretty much the same, dunno if i should have voted for obama :/

kingkilburn · 07-13-2009, 03:39 PM

BTP · 07-13-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RJF

Check your facts. The Bush Administration and John McCain introduced legislation in 2004 to clean up the system and regulate sub-prime loans. The Democrats started crying racism and any legislation was killed.

b/c bush is a idiot a 5 yr old could make the decisions he made at least Obama can talk in compete sentences and actuality make sense ha.LOL

**RJF** · 07-13-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BTP

b/c bush is a idiot a 5 yr old could make the decisions he made at least Obama can talk in compete sentences and actuality make sense ha.LOL

Again your facts are wrong and what does that have to do with policy? Beside Obama can't even speak on his own, he has to read everything off a teleprompter.

*Dousan_PG* · 07-13-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RJF

Again your facts are wrong and what does that have to do with policy? Beside Obama can't even speak on his own, he has to read everything off a teleprompter.

i think thats because he can read

might be a choppped pic
but i still get a kick out of it haha

i love political threads on zilvia.

keistyle · 07-13-2009, 10:04 PM

i would be honored if my ass was looked by the president.

*revat619* · 07-14-2009, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

i love political threads on zilvia.

i know right.

Die hard republicans bitching about democratic policy and vice versa. So stupid. Like i said, a year ago, people COULDN'T WAIT to get Bush out of office. Then during all the debates, almost everybody was talking shit about McCain/Palin. People couldn't wait to swing from the Obama pair....

6 months into the administration and things havent drastically changed (which the never have in ANY administration) and now we have this bitchfest thread. "It's all Obama's fault" "He's an idiot" "He can't talk."

Yeah, i'm sure we'd be soooo much better off with McCain/Palin running things...

Get serious....

Typical Zilvia...just like aero fads....one minute its version select, then Origin agressive, then Works9/BN knock offs, now DMAX. Political stances (i.e. FADS) aren't any different.

Unsubscribed.

I LUV MY S13 · 07-14-2009, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

u guys ever see this movie? it's a pretty good movie. I also like its sequel "Zeitgeist". i guess u could say i'm a "Truther".

open ur eyes, Amerika.

yea watch the zeitgeist films..

imotion s14 · 07-14-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RJF

Check your facts. The Bush Administration and John McCain introduced legislation in 2004 to clean up the system and regulate sub-prime loans. The Democrats started crying racism and any legislation was killed.

It's not just subprime, it's prime loans as well. The whole housing market was a bubble just waiting to pop. It's just that Sub-prime had their rate reset first so you saw it implode first. Now you're starting to see defaults with prime loans as well.

The idea that those prices were sustainable if only you regulated poor people from getting subprime is laughable.

*Brian* · 07-14-2009, 12:05 PM

America is so racist. It's amazing.

USA #1

ranger240 · 07-14-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RJF

And then 9/11 happened because Bill was more interested in get BJ's in the Oval Office than going after Osama bin Laden

oh snap good comeback

07-12-2009, 03:26 AM	#34
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07-12-2009, 03:49 AM	#35
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07-11-2009, 09:42 PM	#33
BustedS13 In time-out for misbehaving. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: STL Age: 25 Posts: 7,862 Trader Rating: (0)	u guys ever see this movie? it's a pretty good movie. I also like its sequel "Zeitgeist". i guess u could say i'm a "Truther". open ur eyes, Amerika.

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07-13-2009, 11:30 AM	#47
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 29 Posts: 4,800 Trader Rating: (1)	clinton started it. bush continued and maintained it. do you really think people could give joe shmoe the migratory farmhand, who makes 20k a year, a loan for 300k for a house, with no legal authority noticing? there are laws that prevent this sort of thing... fair lending / anti predatory lending. so how could this fucked up lending happen en masse for almost a decade? the bush administration blocked any and all attempts by states to stop predatory lending practices through promulgation of archaic rules in the office of comptroller of currency, pre-empting the ability of states to block predatory lending practices. this battle was ongoing in the years before the crash, as the OCC's preemption was confirmed in the 2007 SCOTUS case watters v. wachovia... this case was subseqeuntly overturned by the more recent 2009 SCOTUS case cuomo v. clearing house association, re-establishing state ability to enforce, individually, state fair-lending practice law. and yes, obama is a fucking dumbass. two party system lends itself to the moronic idea that there are only two solutions for any given problem. if not bush, then obama. right? wrong. too bad it's entirely possible, if not probable, that the ranks of both parties are lined with idiots. blind leading the blind.

07-13-2009, 02:31 PM	#49
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 29 Posts: 4,800 Trader Rating: (1)	incorrect. bush administration pushed for OCC pre-emption. that's why it's common referred to as, um, bush-era OCC pre-emption. this is not a partisan issue. it's something started under the dems and continued under the pubs. both parties are at fault here.

07-13-2009, 03:06 PM	#50
BustedS13 In time-out for misbehaving. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: STL Age: 25 Posts: 7,862 Trader Rating: (0)	i thought communism was going to be cool but it seems pretty much the same, dunno if i should have voted for obama :/

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