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Old 01-28-2009, 01:45 AM   #31
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I recall back when the s2000 was first released it could hold it's own against the then far more expensive Boxter S. throughout the past ten years, the performance car market in that price category has become more competitive, and everything has evolved (or devolved depending on your perspective) in some way or another. If you want something track worthy, the Z, STi, and EVO are difficult to beat. If you want something more comfortable, it's hard to beat a G35, 335, 135, G8, etc.

Another thing is the overall packaging. Aside from some minor mechanical differences going into the AP2 version, the S2k has remained more or less the same car. looks the same, has the same power, performance, etc. sure it might be gimmicky to deviate from an existing formula that works, but I believe that's what sells. If you're going to blow 35k, a car that has remained mechanically and aesthetically similar for the past 10 yrs isn't going to appeal to mainstream preferences.

Honestly, I think Honda did not do enough to improve the S2k throughout the years. Compared to Nissan, Subaru, Mitsu, and even some of the german manufacturers they have been ultra-conservative with regards to the high-performance (and luxury) market. Personally I think they should just focus on the civic, fit, accord, some small suvs, and be done with it. That is what they do well and make $$$ on anyways.
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.....hmm...if i remember correctly back in 99 when the s2k came out, they projected to only have the car up around this time and were going to discontinue it. i'm not sure why all of you are so surprised. they're just following the same plans.

as far as killing the nsx project, well, that's more of a surprise to me. then again, with the economy and where it's at, it makes sense.
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i never knew it the s2k has been out since 99...lol prob cuz i was in middle school and didnt have a care for cars lol
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Meh. I can't afford to own one. They're cool, but not exactly essential to the import scene, imho.
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the s2k is an amazing platform, sad to see it discontinued
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honda did have some pretty nice cars.. I did like the prelude I thought it looked great *92-95 looked best imo*.
S2000 is up for its age now.. It had a long production run. 10 years is alot now imo..
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not getting more expensive but it's much more expensive than what it's actually worth.
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I think a car company should look at what they got and make that into something better. Think about it, younger generation see's cool awesome cars, that handle cool and are powerful. They want to have that, so they look for inexpensive cars to mod and mess around with. Just like back in the '30 and '40 up till now, younger generation goes for small, fast and fun cars. Honda delivered, but with a high tag price.

Honda S2k is just another attempt to prove to everyone that Honda can make a rwd, and they did! BUT!!! it's a little expensive for college students to get a hold of, UNLESS, ur parents are rich or u just sell drugs for a living or maybe some how got a good job.

But you don't see older folks trying to hook up their cars to compete with the youngsters, so they don't look for S2k's, they look for family and size and economy. Not enough youngsters can afford them and older folks don't want them!!!

Personally, i think that it's a bitch for Honda to let S2k to be discontinued, but maybe they will just stick with fwd cars for us rwd lovers to have something to laugh at!!!
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It had a good run. 10 years is a good run.

The new NSX was not canceled because it never existed. Honda never called it an NSX, the media did. So there is still the possibility of a MR super car coming out from Honda.
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The NSX is coming back.

There are more vehicles from other manufactures getting the axe.
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Damn now a lot of those cars getting the axe i saw coming but def not the dodge viper. I mean wow thats kinda like chevy dropping the vette total surprise here
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Why are you all still bitching?

The s2000 lasted TEN FUCKING YEARS. That's a long time.

Comparing it to the Porsche Boxter? The Boxter is a piece of crap.

Yet people would still rather have the Boxter over the s2k just so they can say they have a Porsche.

Everyone keeps saying they want a cheaper, faster, good looking rwd car, but once a company makes it, it's not like people are going to buy it.

So what's the point? All it would do is set the company even further in debt.


As someone pointed out, that FR car was never called an NSX. Just pure speculation by people.

Even if the NSX never comes out, it still doesn't affect me. I could care less about that car.

There are too many people saying what they want to see, but not enough willing to pay for it once they see it.
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There are too many people saying what they want to see, but not enough willing to pay for it once they see it.
So very true.

90% of people on a forum dedicated to a 10-20 year old rustbucket aren't going to actually buy an NSX or even an S2K, but they'll damn sure condemn their cancellation as a bad marketing decision.
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Why are you all still bitching?

The s2000 lasted TEN FUCKING YEARS. That's a long time.

Comparing it to the Porsche Boxter? The Boxter is a piece of crap.

Yet people would still rather have the Boxter over the s2k just so they can say they have a Porsche.
haha u know what the boxster says? "I couldnt afford a 911"

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but s2000 is overpriced as much as i love the car.. thats y they're not selling
10yrs of s2000 is good enuf n e ways its performance/technology is not catching up to others
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every year since 2006 has been the s2000's last year in production according to Honda. It needs to come to an end, it had an impressive run, but 10 years is enough. This coming from a year 2000 s2000 owner.
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fuck i would get one anyday! there slick with that mugen hardtop and sick ass wheels and some neg camber and your set!..light fast and most important rwd! : )
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I'm not surprised... I was suspicious this would happen after Acura canceled the NSX.
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the s2k is an amazing platform, sad to see it discontinued
lol amazing how, it started the push button starter revolution that nissan and toyota embarked on and made it their bitches?

(not that push button starters didn't come in a lot of older cars or more expensive ones.)

I've never liked the s2000 mainly because it was a convertible, it was like 30 thousand dollars to get one, and you cant put any wheels with a decent offset on them. If anything my buddy Ardy built one of the meanest fucking s2000's back in 2002 and used it specifically to race. And always had something negative to say about how much flex was in the chassis, how the slightest suspension change could throw the car off since it was balanced perfectly from the factory.

The only thing cool about it was it's engine which has found it's way into other cool platforms like datsuns and ae86s
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They were moving in the right decision (albeit baby steps) by making the TL awd. Unfortunately they made it uglier in the process.

The TSX shoulda been RWD based on the s2k platform, acura is stupid. Coulda had an IS300/altezza killer there.
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haha u know what the boxster says? "I couldnt afford a 911"

Funny thing is many people refused to buy the 911's when the Boxter first came out because it looked too much like the 911 from the front.

It's part of the reason they redesigned it a little.
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So are you driving one now?
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It needs to come to an end, it had an impressive run, but 10 years is enough.
Look at the 240sx. It ran from 1989 to 1998. People are butthurt Nissan didn't make the S15 available here in the united states, but in reality, it wouldn't be such a special car to most of us if it was still at the dealerships here.

Also, like it was stated earlier, the S2000 hasn't really had any significant changes (Visually or mechanically) in its entire run. Its just a newer 240sx, built by Honda.
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look at the 240sx. It ran from 1989 to 1998. People are butthurt nissan didn't make the s15 available here in the united states, but in reality, it wouldn't be such a special car to most of us if it was still at the dealerships here.
because it would still have a fucking truck engine in it!!! And cost damn near 30 thousand dollars!!!
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Funny thing is many people refused to buy the 911's when the Boxter first came out because it looked too much like the 911 from the front.

It's part of the reason they redesigned it a little.


So are you driving one now?
naw but if i could afford it i would sheet..lol..i currently have an s14
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Its just a newer 240sx, built by Honda.
Apples to Oranges. The S2000 is a roadster, not a coupe. Not to mention the 240sx is a turd in stock form too.
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because it would still have a fucking truck engine in it!!! And cost damn near 30 thousand dollars!!!

Yea an s15 in america would more than likely have had a slightly more powerful KA in it, one that has like 180 hp. For some reason it would be hard for me to see the HID version here as well.
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because it would still have a fucking truck engine in it!!! And cost damn near 30 thousand dollars!!!
Don't rag on the KA. Its got a lot of potential. Shit, the Corvette came with a 'truck motor' so to speak.... and they roll out.
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honda did have some pretty nice cars.. I did like the prelude I thought it looked great *92-95 looked best imo*.
S2000 is up for its age now.. It had a long production run. 10 years is alot now imo..
The Prelude?

Are you serious?

An overweight underpowered Coupe, FWD, basically a longer version of the accord coupe?

Never really got that thing at all, I think the EG hatchback was the best car honda ever made besides the S2000
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The S2000 was an anniversary car if I remember correctly (kinda like the Ford GT)...so it's no surprise it's getting axed.

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It had a good run. 10 years is a good run.

The new NSX was not canceled because it never existed. Honda never called it an NSX, the media did. So there is still the possibility of a MR super car coming out from Honda.
Looking at the prototypes...that car would have been SICK. Also i think it was a FR due to the shortened rear and elongated hood.
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Still, it wasn't the next NSX. Everyone just assumed it was, even though Honda never said it.
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Why are you all still bitching?

The s2000 lasted TEN FUCKING YEARS. That's a long time.

Comparing it to the Porsche Boxter? The Boxter is a piece of crap.

Yet people would still rather have the Boxter over the s2k just so they can say they have a Porsche.

Everyone keeps saying they want a cheaper, faster, good looking rwd car, but once a company makes it, it's not like people are going to buy it.
back in 1999, the performance car market in the US didn't have a lot of offerings. by that time, all the great japanese cars of the 90's had ceased production. the Boxter S was by default one of the best rwd cars available, so the comparison between the boxter s and s2000 wasn't exactly apples to oranges. besides the s2000 came on top. In 1999, the S2000 was pretty much the performance bargain to have.

People are still buying cheaper rwd cars. Competitors came with even cheaper, and just as fast (or not quicker) cars for the same $$$ or in similar amounts. Many of which are more marketable to mainstream car buyers, and appealing to car enthusiasts alike. Many of us on this board alone moved to the 350z. With the 370z, the s2000 becomes even less desirable in terms of what it offer in performance. The s2000 just hasn't caught up with the times.
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Still, it wasn't the next NSX. Everyone just assumed it was, even though Honda never said it.
I never called it NSX...just simply "that car" You have to admit though...there could have been potential in that car looking back at the cars Honda put out in the past.
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